BUFFALOTONE

"Offensive linemen are taught to get the arms down of defensive linemen on pass plays....its football 101." I took this as holding as the only other way to do this is chopping the DL on a short drop. If the DL disengages and reads the play it is not the OLs fault. On short drops your cut the player, that's football 101 or OL 101. My guess is they didn't want to do that in preseason. You can "punch" a guy in the chest but not sure its going to bring his arms down, especially if hes backing off the line. It happens and its not really a concern to me. But Marrone not wanting to put that on his QB is questionable IMO. You're not wrong but the explanation was confusing.

That's correct Biscuit but not what John said, he said to grab the DLs arms. You have to cut him down, but if he reads it and doesn't rush there isn't much the OL man can do.

I played OL at a pretty decent level and was never taught to grab a guys arms, its called holding. If a defender sees its a quick set by the QB he will back up and try to get in the lane, normally on a 3 step drop you cut the lineman at the knees to open that lane.

Henderson was great last night. When we get Cordy back and move Henderson to the RT spot that's a lot of beef up front. Not down on Cyrus but as mentioned above Henderson is ahead.

No one hinted they were moving Stevie either. Marrone basically intimated he was "happy" to have him a part of the team. Why would they do that unless completely fed up with him? I agree with you all that he is extremely talented but I would take the first rounder next year and create the production form the players in the backfield already.

I thought this and POSTED it after the draft. I still think we get that 1st rounder back by trading CJ. I do like him but you can create that role with Fred and Bryce I believe. We will get through the season to be sure but I would not be that surprised. He is an explosive guy but his vision is horrific to say the least, talk all you want about the OL woes but Fred was pretty productive behind that line. I know he was nicked up but so was Fred and made the best out of the situation.

Big fan of your one liners Fluff, but its a legit question and a bold statement from a poster. I am curious as well. Ohhh now I feel better...

HOW does this scumbag get bail?!!! HOWWW!!!

you said that negatively....

Disruptive? The guy was an afterthought in their offense. He drops too many balls and celebrates a first down like a super bowl. Highly over rated with his best years behind him. He shouldn't be allowed to play after getting his neck and spine fused.

He keeps making plays like the one at the 2:20 frame he can speed and smoke a doobie while in the process.

Tis is to curb his testosterone from steroid use. Manny Ramirez did the same thing.... nice try Robert.

we will get it back when we trade CJ. Mark it down.

Ha ha....chuckled for a minute at my desk.

Here is my question, do you pay Spiller top dollar for being used 15+ times a game? My gut says no.

Sadly I agree with this. He went to USC out of HS and was allowed to opt out, UM was his second choice and he was underwhelming to say the least. Great frame but other than that he will be depth IF he makes the team. Once placed on the PS he will lose interest and either fail a test or get cut. On the flip side I would love to eat these words.

I really hope CJ stays a Bill but he does frustrate the hell out of me with his horrific vision. He's a home run talent and someone will want that. Look we traded next years first I think it's logical we dangle CJ to get it back. Just a thought....

Last I checked FSU was the best team in the country. Nice try Chief...

Little known fact: after the arrest his parents moved up to Clemson and he stayed with them for the remainder of his college career. never had an incident after that.

Nice I was trying to find a game to go to and that's it, my birthday as well.

JFB - STL Clowney - ATL Bortles - Minn Mack - Hou Evans - Oakland

I believe you. Just wanted to know where the HELL NGU is...

Ok bandit, and how do you know this?

So we are saying JK is "Never Give Up"? Rigghhhttt..

You know how I know you're gay..... Not that there's anything wrong with that...