loyal2dagame

It's a two way street in that aspect. But, Palmer wouldn't be beating a drum for Allen if he thought Allen would fail to succeed. It would make Palmer look like a fool and his training program look like trash.

Obviously Tre White didn't need much help. Levi Wallace had a sophmore slump. But could it possibly be that while the Bills run D was atrocious for part of the season, the safeties were playing as deep linebackers and staying planted on most plays to prevent big runs? Can't remember right now if this was the exact situation, but this would make sense as to why their stats took a hit.

Phillips had a good year for the Bills. If he comes back, great. If he doesn't, so be it. I don't know if he's a top 3 DT right now. Statistically sure, but measuring play by play, maybe not. Still a solid player.

We don't need to tie up big money in a rb again, or ever......

Forward lateral makes it impossible for me. That play makes it real easy to hate them. I still have it burned into my mind that we were going to the superbowl that year. I remember the Titans. And i say screw em.

I'm a season ticket holder and this is silly. Lawsuits? Protests? This society has jumped the shark. We are all doomed.

That misses my point. The Bills have been horrible against the lip kisser. What team in the league had a winning record against the Pats* since Brady lucked into a job because of a collapsed lung?

It wasn't just the Bills. It was the entire NFL under New England's dynasty. The entire league and any non Pats* fan have been waiting. Hopefully the clock has run out on Brady and the Pats. The last 20 years have sucked. I want to see New England have another stretch like they did in the late 80's early 90's where they had 1-3 wins a season.

Agreed 100%. Some plays it did seem like he went through his reads multiple times and didn't make a decision on what to do. Others were highlight real split second decision throws. He has developed for sure. Hopefully it continues. I'm a huge Pro-Joshy fan, but if it doesn't ALL come together next year, i may have to rethink my stance.

You carry on. I am upset about the horrible officiating. But really? A lawsuit because our team lost a game?

Yes it did, but still needs work. We once again have a good running game (when the coaches don't eliminate it from the gameplan) And our qb had sufficient time to throw in most plays. We had neither last year.

Let's not be like Saints fans. Be better, not bitter.

I disagree. We need one playmaker receiver. If we get a guy that draws the other teams top db and a safety throughout the games, Brown will look like a hall of famer. Brown had a very good year against other teams top guys. He will absolutely go off when we get our "true #1". If we model our offense after the Ravens, where do we go when dc's figure out a scheme to shut it down. And they will figure it out. Stay the course. Get that reciever. Give extensions to players that deserve them. We are going in the right direction. No need for a u-turn at this point.

The Pats* built a dynasty on beating division 3 stiffs...... and cheating. I think the Bills will be ok.

I don't care if the wins are ugly, by a point, or by a blown call. Just give them to me

I found this wall while i was in the military, stationed where there was no Bills news. That was more than half my life ago. Coming into another decade on the wall, i have to say it's been a pleasure. Through the ups and downs. Through the hope and dispare. Through our people arguing and getting along. This is the place to be if you're a Bills fan. Thanks to all the 2BD'ers that have made this place what it is. HAPPY NEW YEAR!

How about our kicker sucking most of the season?

We did earn it that year. It just wasnt pretty. We needed to win and did. Baltimore didn't do what they needed to and lost.

For sure at the time of the trade it looked good. After seeing him play, it looked real bad. If it had worked out even a little better, the trade could have had good value to get a big bodied wr. Instead, we got a slob of a player with a big case of the dropsies.

I was in Miami for the game too. Tons of people were watching on their phones after the game. I had a certain website's live feed of the Bengals/ ravens. I saw the play happen about a minute before everyone else and probably looked like i was on something running around Hard Rock Stadium's parking lot screaming. It made sense to other people around me once they saw the play.

My pre game rituals for home games goes like this: Wake up at 06:45, drink at least 2 cups of coffee while everyone in the house is still asleep. After the coffee lubes the system, i take my morning glory. Following the morning glory, it's time to shower. Post cleansing, get dressed and meet up with my fellow ticket holders by 08:15. Get to the stadium just before 09:00. Prime the clean system with beer and food until 12:30 when we get in line to go to our seats. Every home game. Rinse and repeat. Pre game for away games: Wake up 08:00. Listen to the wife complain about everything she thinks i have to do that day. Drink at least 2 cups of coffee while i talk her out of having to do anything. Put the nice guy hat on and make breakfast for everyone. Following kitchen cleanup, disappear into the basement until 16:30.

I just read through some if the posts on the Pats* board. There are some people there that seem to have a clue, but the vast majority are crazy. "WORST Pats* TEAM IN YEARS" yeah, 12-4. "COMPLETE REBUILD NEXT YEAR" sure, win the division with an average offense. Time to tear the team down. "BELICHICK IS HORRIBLE" Wtf? Their fans are out of touch with reality and deserve 10 years of losing seasons. I hate the Pats* and wish nothing but misery on the team and their fans.

Maybe I'm optimistic, but i got us no worse than 13-3 next year. That wins the division. The Pats* are done.

No we're won't. Houston is far from an elite team. Maybe in two weeks there's a worry.....

Who cares. 10-6. Playoffs......