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This link from a earlier thread: " Although Hangartner is viewed as a reserve, he has plenty of starting experience. He started eight games last year for the Panthers at center and guard due to injuries."

Thanx, Tim. Now we have yet another hole to fill on the OL. I really hope this is a 'save for big signings' and not a 'save money just for kicks' kind of cut.

If all we are looking for is a backup, he would be a very good choice. But if the coaching staff feels they need someone to push TE, then we need to look elsewhere.

That is not the point ! I am pointing out you going off-target and digging out the opportunity to beat up on JP when clearly the topic you were responding to had a different focus.

Wow ! The post you responded to was talking about how the coaching and offense in general is pathetic. Both QBs failed to positively impact the level of O. And you respond by going on yet another anti-JP tirade ? Does calling out the coaches and our current QB automatically equate to 'holding personal grudges' against the entire team ?

And you stay far away from all instruments of violence.

Now I am simply being an a$$ - it was the producer Christian Colson who went up to get the award and who asked the cast to join him..

Before you stereo-type, did you think about how many Indians have won the Best Picture Academy Award ? None. And in the Indian award ceremonies, multiple people do NOT rush to claim their award, thank you. By the way, this movie wasn't even made by an Indian - the original writer and cast is Indian but it is a complete Brit movie. If you noticed, the producer asked them to join him on stage. The cast on stage were like 10 Penelope Cruz's - who came from a different part of the world but grew up watching and admiring the Oscars. Also, a lot of the marketing behind this movie is 'made in a familial atmosphere'. Them going on stage simply enhances that image being portrayed. I don't know about the movie but the real winners are Fox Searchlight who marketed this movie to perfection so it could be much more than it could ever be by itself.

We have plenty of money to spend. However, if saving money from Greer's contract allows us to sign a premier DE, then by all means let Greer go. But it would be nice to have both. I, for one, don't have much confidence in Youboty - he appears to be an under-acheiver.

Very nice post. I second everything you said.

I was thinking more like 4 year $22-$25 MM.

We don't know if this is the 'final deal' offered. If Greer is interested in staying with the Bills, his agent will make a counter-offer. Given his recent injury, he should not be expecting the Hayden type of money. Perhaps they can agree to a shorter but more lucrative per year contract ?

Actually I believe in tough love. I really hope he gets more than a rap on the knuckles this time. Else this would be the second incidence of irresponsible behavior where he would get off lightly. I realize that the law is the law but a moderate punishment this time may help curtail the nature of his extra-curricular activities and reduce the possibility of a future big crime.

I don't. First of all we don't know how Brady will come back from his injury. Secondly, without proper coaches and scheme, Brady (even if healthy) will under-perform. Thirdly, I rather have the first three picks. Lastly, I rather we don't give NE those picks.

I will give you this - that the nature of the crimes between Pacman/Vick and (allegedly) of Lynch's are different in magnitude. But if it is a crime, it needs to be punished. If there is a developing pattern of mis-behavior it will eventually escalate. At a minimum, it will affect his time on field but worse it will be a distraction to the team. I have not followed his pre-Bills life but if it is indeed as checkered as it is turning out to be with the Bills, I see this going more the Travis Henry way - spiraling downward to eventual (career) doom. I feel the trade-off is not one we have to make. I wish that he will turn it around and be a model citizen and live up to his tattoo of being a 'Mamma's boy'

Exactly what I was about to post . Harrison's numbers have declined even with P Manning throwing to him. I cannot imagine how our offense can take advantage of anything Harrison has left, if anything. If we had a good pass offense, I would marginally support bringing him in for spot duty on critical plays. But given our situation and the tread on his tires, I will pass.

So you are willing to condone the off-field actions of sportsmen as long as they are superstars on the field ? Sorry, I just do not agree. First of all, it is morally wrong and will not condone illegal behavior by a Bill. Secondly, off-field transgressions frequently affect the net contribution to the team - think Pacman Jones, Michael Vick. Lastly, why equate off-field agression to on-field competitiveness ? There are plenty of examples of intense competitors being good citizens - Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, McNabb come to mind. Note - I am not making a judgement about Lynch's guilt, just talking philosophy.

Nope. Wait till draft day and watch the board explode if we take another 1st round DB.

Nice to see you come by. Sit tight ? For 48 hours ?? We are judge, jury and executioners at internet speed. Though, till now, Lynch looks to be trying sincerely to make our job so much easier.

Nicely done.

I like the fact that we are taking care of our own (Jenkins, DiGiorgio). If Crowell is expected to be back to full strength, we should sign him too and we should be set at the LB position. Mitchell-Poz-Crowell starters, Ellison & DiGi as backups.

Perhaps true but Lynch is certainly doing his part by giving them plenty of fodder.

I think we are better off re-signing Greer. As a side note, looks like the Broncos are preparing to go on a shopping spree.

I am not sure what the league rules are. But I sure don't like what I am seeing as a pattern of flirting with the law. Much as I like his play on the field, that is not enough reason to find excuses for his behavior and start questioning the law of the land. He should get a fair hearing and if guilty, should be punished. I have been fairly disheartened by the general direction this franchise has been headed lately and this incident further adds to the gloom. Whether it is the coaching, the drafting, team building or anything else related to creating a winning franchise, we seem to be taking mis-steps everywhere.

I have to wonder if NE* isn't playing a game here. Are they seriously intending to keep two high priced QBs in the roster (at least for this year) ? I think they are trying to see if they can indeed get the 2 first rounders in which case they still have Brady. If nobody wants to trade for Cassel, do the Pats* then turn around and try to trade Brady instead ? My guess is that they won't mind either outcome. I am pretty sure someone will offer at least a first rounder for Brady.