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So what happens when a guy who can produce plays for a guy who can't ?

Why did you start a new thread for this topic ?

Got to be one of the most hilarious thing I have ever seen. Ofcourse, it is only a poor Bills fan who can laugh at his own misery.

Did not read the multiple pages on this thread. When I heard the news, the first thing that came to mind is - a Tom Donahoe-ish move. All flash, little chance of doing much good to the team's chances. Window dressing for a poor FA period this year.

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I can understand your frustration at the negativity. But isn't a lot of it justified ? After multiple losing seasons and pronouncement by the owner of a lack of talent, we still seem to not get some really good FAs. And this after us having boatloads of cash to spend. I am not sure the lack of activity is due to factors the Bills have no control over. Sometimes, they just have to make it happen and instead they seem to be ultra-passive about upgrading key positions and in not striving to keep our own.

I, for one, have nothing better to discuss. What do you have ? Discussion about the great FA signings we have had ?

Okay, sorry abt Saturday. But I don't buy the excuse for not being in the game regarding Birk. I would think that the FO would be in the know if acquiring Birk was a possibility. We all know that the OL now is severely depleted and the FO should have been aggressively looking for possibilities in plugging the gaps. We should have known about Birk's contract situation - why did the Ravens know ?? Also, I don't think acquiring Hangartner should have stopped us from continuing to look. He is one of at least 2 that we needed on the OL.

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If those numbers are indeed true, I am even more disgusted by the lack of action by the FO. Either one would be an immediate upgrade as a C. And Hangartner can play G or C so getting Birk or Saturday would have allowed Hangartner to play G and we would have a solid line. So far, this must be one of the worst FA periods in recent Bills history.

Good one ! What a deceiving and stupid thread title.

Not if Lynch+Lynch's legal troubles = loss of playing time due to suspensions

That 'if' is what I am worried about. The other side of that 'if' is if McK under-performs at the CB position, we would have saved money to increase risk at a position where we did not need to. I have said this in other threads also - at some point we need to spend the money we have. If not on a couple of top flight FAs, then at least on the above average ones - preferably ones we already have (Peters, Crowell as examples)

That is not the point. I think if Lynch is let go, Jackson would start. The equation to think about is Lynch+Lynch's off-field troubles+Jackson > Jackson+Foster/Jones ??? The author does make some valid points. We are presumably set at RB so there is little reason to bring in these second-tier running backs unless Lynch or Jackson are not in the Bills' plans for 2009.

Okay, I have not thought through the 'cap hit' part of it. But I do understand that it was a small price to pay Greer (over Florence) in return for the confidence of knowing that Greer is good. I never argued that Greer is great. I am saying he is more than just 'good', he was a good fit in our system, had played well for us and liked playing for us. I will gladly take a player like Greer any day on my team.

Yes, yes and yes ! I am more than a bit mad that we let Greer go. Good luck to him and thanks for the effort and play.

'For the sake of spending' does not apply here because we are not over-spending on an average player at a position of need. We would be spending a tad more (than we spent on Florence) to totally lock down the CB spots and make it the one uncontested strength of the team. If McKelvin developed, we could have then had the option to let McGee walk next year. But as of now, we have a unproven #11 pick from last year and a vet who might be on the decline. Also, just because we drafted McKelvin high does not mean we get rid of our other options in the hope that McK will turn out to be a player we need him to be. Again, if McK indeed works out, we could have had the choice of trading Greer next year or letting McGee go. This is not prudent cash management - it is a be cheap and pray mentality which has failed us in the era of free agency.

Who are we saving that money for anyway ? Not like we have prized free agents being brought in or traded for, in the last few days. Greer was a known devil to us. McKelvin has shown flashes but can we really trust the job to him full time without proven backup ? Florence to me is an unknown. He could have been a bad fit at Jax but it is equally likely he has run out of steam for good. Point is - for $6 MM/yr (when we have a lot of money left under the cap), we have let go a proven starter and acquired a questionable one. Heck, Greer may have given the Bills a hometown discount too so the differential between his cap hit and Florence's may not have been too hard to swallow. There is a lot of merit to retaining our own ones who have worked hard and done well for the team. I re-iterate as I am a bit frustrated by the annual 'we cannot afford to keep our high performer and we cannot afford to get that good FA 'cos he is too expensive' line. What are we saving this money for ? Yet another disappointing year ? For a marketing campaign ?

I am a semi-Darko fan but this trailer left me distinctly under-whelmed. It looks like a teen drama with more special effects. ' the world is going to end'. Oh man ! Is that supposed to get me excited with the gratuitous shots of the actress liberally thrown in ? Sorry, but I don't think D Darko required a sequel.

I know you are kidding, but consider that the article is about online porn. Makes even less sense - with slower speeds you are paying to see a photo in the time that I ....... errr.... someone can see an extended gang-bang.

Why does anyone have to buy porn ?

I agree. Schobel will be back so we have at least one good DE. The biggest need is on the offense and most would agree it is at the C and G positions. Yes, we need a very good DE opposite Schobel but we lost more games due to the lack of production on O than due to inadequacy on the D. I think given the (lack of ) talent on the DE side, we did more than we can reasonably expect. Damn our O could not score or stay long enough for the D to get enough rest. Most drafts have us pick on the D because, arguably, the D line is the most likely place where you can get immediate impact from a rookie.

As of now, that is. Good trade for KC.

I hope there is a clause for him not to hold-out or sulk throughout the length of his new contract.

Why are we looking at any CB ? We should be pretty well stacked at CB. Is it possible we are planning on trading/cutting one of our CBs ? Or is Greer as good as gone so we need someone for depth ?