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I agree on both points and would like to add one more. I am getting mildly concerned about his handling of Woods. Two reasons why putting him on the 2's may be justified: (1) Marrone is trying to juggle the combinations and he already knows Woods' versatility (2) he is trying to find the best positions for others such as Hogan. If it is a disciplinary action, it better be for good reason. Besides some minor anger issues (didn't a lot of us want players with fire in their belly ?) I have not seen anything from RW that would indicate behavior issues. No matter what, it would not hurt for him to simply state what he is doing and get all the angst behind him. Again, he does not OWE us a response, but there doesn't appear to be any good reason to be so vague about it.

I am waiting for Bill in NYC to weigh in on this

I must say Whaley knows his lineman and WRs. Both lines can be flat out dominating

Let's get confirmation from him regarding retirement. I am not too sure he wants to.

I have been advocating that irrespective of how Tuel and Thad develop. IMHO, there needs to be atleast one proven vet on the roster (Thad isn't proven). I was under the impression no backup QB of note was available and am glad this thread informed me that Orton is. In his time in Chicago, Orton was not spectacular but adequate. He is the kind of guy who can guide a team and would be quite a good backup. Plus he is, what 31 ? Which isn't too old.

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My point was that if Henderson earns a starting job over CK, the OL could look like Glenn-Williams-Wood-Hairston-Henderson. If CK>SH, then it is likely Glenn-CK-Wood-Urbik-Hairston So who develops faster matters to the line as a whole

I don't think anyone is calling him a bust but it is fair to compare him with his fellow rookie 7th rounder who is coming on much better. It is totally fine to let CK have adequate development time, but if SentrealH shows he is NFL ready, give the man a chance over the 2nd rounder. (Note I know they play different positions, but some players are movable and where CyrusK gets slotted makes a difference as to how the other G and T positions are filled)

EJ needs the first team reps for sure. But, I wonder if, in the next preseason game, Marrone can give EJ 2-3 series with the ones and then let Tuel get the same. I realize this will give too much exposure to the ones on O, but I really want to see what Tuel can do with the same supporting cast. Is there any reason why this cannot happen?

Sure did see and like what I saw. Not only the big hit, but also saw a couple of other plays where he displayed range and good tackling. Other random observations: - Front 4 were very good led by KyleW. Branch was invisible - LBs did a decent job. Saw Preston Brown unable to disengage from his blocker and miss on a tackle - SentrealH was very good on the blind side. Did not look like a rookie, much less a 7th round pick - Kouandjio struggled mightily in the beginning, came back to make a couple of decent blocks. Still looks to be a big work in progress - Saw Chris Williams miss on a block that allowed pressure on EJ - Woods was very good though not sure why he wasnt with the ones - EJ wasnt going through progressions despite the good OL performance. Dude needs to stop thinking and just play

Woohoo! Dean-o is back.

This is great. How many do we have so far and what is this limit the bar speaks of ?

"Wait till the real bullets start flying, then he will crumple like a pack of cheap cards"

Sure looks like it. I would have liked him to work out, but at this point he is out of chances.

No guarantees people won't look at you funny even with the name tag :-P

Check your PM. I may join you guys on Sunday. One suggestion - have name tags with real and TBD names on it.

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Last year, pre-draft, I was strongly in favor of getting Alex Smith and getting atleast an average, proven, low-risk QB in the short term. Then the pressure would have been off to draft a QB high and taken whoever the FO thought had the most upside in last year or this year's draft. I still think that would have been the best solution for the Bills.

None that live in a place inaccessible by DirecTV. Also looked at the list of universities and my daughter goes to one which is not on that list.

This is not really a great 'deal' per se. "Now you can stream live, out-of-market NFL games on your favorite device without a DIRECTV satellite TV subscription if you live in an apartment building where DIRECTV service is not available, attend one of these universities, or live in the following metro areas: New York City, Philadelphia, or San Francisco." As most of us are finding, we are ineligible to receive this package as we do not meet the criteria spelled out on the front page. It is DirecTV expanding its customer base by allowing more means to access the ticket. A vast majority of us will have to go the traditional route through satellite DirecTV.

Oh, so the 'it is okay because everyone else does it too' argument. My daughters have been trying that on me for years. First of all, there is no way to tell if every coach cheated in some way. Secondly, every perpetrator is judged against the evidence available against him. There is no tangential argument that can wish it away

I have heard that way too often. That is the difference between a classy team/coach and a barnyard bully.

I normally agree with your posts but this is not one of them. Of the sequence you quoted, - we arguably did not have Byrd playing at full strength last year so the loss is important but not much compared to what we got out of him last season - EJ: this is one point everyone agrees on. If he tanks, we are scr**ed - Dareus: Stupidity yes but not sure he will be suspended. Again, last season he was inconsistent so nothing says that he will be any worse. - Kiko: a huge loss for sure but compared to last season, we have more overall talent on the LB'ing side - Pettine: Again a loss but addition of Schwartz significantly reduces that. You may disagree with his schemes but he has been overall successful as a DC in the past, and hence is experienced and we don't know if it is the wide-9 he will use with the Bills All in all, it seems like Kiko's loss pushed you over the edge, but if you compare our overall talent level on D with what we had last year, we are still better off.

Good story. And welcome to the board.