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Maybe he signs Parker. I agree. If CJ stays healthy, we will see the best he has to offer this season. True. Whether on draft day or now, if a trade is going to happen it should be for a player who can help the Bills immediately. Or, a 1st rounder in next year's draft which is doubtful unless you find another dumb team like the Colts.

Heck, Joe Flacco would make us SB favorites. We just need above average QB play.

Maybe so regarding Woods in the slot, but I am just not sure that he has good reasons. I can hope he does but not sure about it. Consider - - If he wanted to try woods at slot, why not make it Watkins-Woods-Williams as the 1's ? - If he wanted to try Woods outside, why not do Watkins-Hogan-Woods on the 1's ? Putting Woods with the 2s not only for the game but in TC yesterday also does not make sense.If disciplinary, I wonder how many days does Woods have to go stand in the corner to atone for it. Color me skeptical.

I vote for Orton, if he still wants to play.

After the solid rookie campaign that Woods has, I can't believe Marrone will think Hogan > Woods based on performance in training camp. Woods has repeatedly proven himself in game time situations. If suddenly Hogan is deemed to be better than Woods, I would doubt Marrone more than Woods. The issue in my mind is more about how Marrone is handling this situation. If he has a football reason to do what he is doing, he should state that literally or obliquely. I don't buy this 'he is not obligated to tell us anything' for each and every situation. He is fueling an unnecessary fire in the media, among us fans and some players (who have had to verbally state their support for Woods). He needs to diffuse the situation. It comes with the territory. Marrone has not proven much on the field to warrant a pass.

I agree on both points and would like to add one more. I am getting mildly concerned about his handling of Woods. Two reasons why putting him on the 2's may be justified: (1) Marrone is trying to juggle the combinations and he already knows Woods' versatility (2) he is trying to find the best positions for others such as Hogan. If it is a disciplinary action, it better be for good reason. Besides some minor anger issues (didn't a lot of us want players with fire in their belly ?) I have not seen anything from RW that would indicate behavior issues. No matter what, it would not hurt for him to simply state what he is doing and get all the angst behind him. Again, he does not OWE us a response, but there doesn't appear to be any good reason to be so vague about it.

I am waiting for Bill in NYC to weigh in on this

I must say Whaley knows his lineman and WRs. Both lines can be flat out dominating

Let's get confirmation from him regarding retirement. I am not too sure he wants to.

I have been advocating that irrespective of how Tuel and Thad develop. IMHO, there needs to be atleast one proven vet on the roster (Thad isn't proven). I was under the impression no backup QB of note was available and am glad this thread informed me that Orton is. In his time in Chicago, Orton was not spectacular but adequate. He is the kind of guy who can guide a team and would be quite a good backup. Plus he is, what 31 ? Which isn't too old.

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My point was that if Henderson earns a starting job over CK, the OL could look like Glenn-Williams-Wood-Hairston-Henderson. If CK>SH, then it is likely Glenn-CK-Wood-Urbik-Hairston So who develops faster matters to the line as a whole

I don't think anyone is calling him a bust but it is fair to compare him with his fellow rookie 7th rounder who is coming on much better. It is totally fine to let CK have adequate development time, but if SentrealH shows he is NFL ready, give the man a chance over the 2nd rounder. (Note I know they play different positions, but some players are movable and where CyrusK gets slotted makes a difference as to how the other G and T positions are filled)

EJ needs the first team reps for sure. But, I wonder if, in the next preseason game, Marrone can give EJ 2-3 series with the ones and then let Tuel get the same. I realize this will give too much exposure to the ones on O, but I really want to see what Tuel can do with the same supporting cast. Is there any reason why this cannot happen?

Sure did see and like what I saw. Not only the big hit, but also saw a couple of other plays where he displayed range and good tackling. Other random observations: - Front 4 were very good led by KyleW. Branch was invisible - LBs did a decent job. Saw Preston Brown unable to disengage from his blocker and miss on a tackle - SentrealH was very good on the blind side. Did not look like a rookie, much less a 7th round pick - Kouandjio struggled mightily in the beginning, came back to make a couple of decent blocks. Still looks to be a big work in progress - Saw Chris Williams miss on a block that allowed pressure on EJ - Woods was very good though not sure why he wasnt with the ones - EJ wasnt going through progressions despite the good OL performance. Dude needs to stop thinking and just play

Woohoo! Dean-o is back.

This is great. How many do we have so far and what is this limit the bar speaks of ?

"Wait till the real bullets start flying, then he will crumple like a pack of cheap cards"

Sure looks like it. I would have liked him to work out, but at this point he is out of chances.

No guarantees people won't look at you funny even with the name tag :-P

Check your PM. I may join you guys on Sunday. One suggestion - have name tags with real and TBD names on it.

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Last year, pre-draft, I was strongly in favor of getting Alex Smith and getting atleast an average, proven, low-risk QB in the short term. Then the pressure would have been off to draft a QB high and taken whoever the FO thought had the most upside in last year or this year's draft. I still think that would have been the best solution for the Bills.

None that live in a place inaccessible by DirecTV. Also looked at the list of universities and my daughter goes to one which is not on that list.