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IMHO, Ryan's issues run beyond the absence of a good QB. I am not convinced he is a good HC. as with several past Buffalo HCs, he is a great coordinator in over his head with the top job. But coming full circle, Whaley has to be responsible for hiring him. Or was Ryan a Pegula hire ? Maybe I am jumping the gun here, but as I stated in other threads, the (non-QB) issues I see cropping up seem chronic with Ryan's teams. Issues which will limit success

Come on, man. You have to give him credit for not going into a shell and leading two TD drives ? Or a possible third TD fumbled away by McCoy ? I can understand that he is not a starter but you have gone all FireChan on us in these last couple of days.

As bad as Manuel was in the second quarter, are you denying that the Bills took the lead with him at QB ? Don't get me wrong - I have turned the corner on EJ and now believe he is a very solid #2, nothing more. But to say that he sucked in the entire game is like saying TT was lights out for the entire Titans game. Memories are made by the end result. If the Bills had won against the Jags, the storyline on EJ would have had a rosy tint. Wouldnt have changed the fact that he was terrible for those 5 minutes but would have been excused. For the record, I think TT is marginally better and so should be the starter when healthy. But neither of them are 'the guy'

I don't care about today's result as much as I care about you back and active on this board. Hope you get back to full strength soon

Issue in my mind is that Whaley has chosen one and now possibly two poor coaches for this franchise. Its not just abouy buikding a roster. And one without a good QB. Coaches matter big time. At what point does the Teflon wear off of Whaley?

EJ better not turn the ball over

Wow. Set up by a totally questionable PI

Why bother watching then?

Come on, guys. Close this out.

Run it

Comeback falls short

Oversimplified, don't you think?

Need a great run back.

Tick tock tick tock

We get it Gannon, EJ sucks. Do you have any other insights?

Coming back to what you said- let him call them himself. Not much to lose down 2 scores with 10 minutes left

Go to 2 minute drill. Speed it up and spread it out

Take a close look at the fumble, please. Maybe I didn't see it well but looked like his knee was down Edit -never mind

You have got to be kidding me!!! Wasn't hiss knee down?

Huge 3rd down

Look ahead. Even if they nw score a fg, we are still within 2 scores. Too risky to go for it after the penalty

Fair enough. We will see how this goes but my sense is that Ryan doesn't want to risk anything with lower tier QBs at his command. Not defending Ryan, just rationalizing

Take the points please !

Probably not trusting EJ at this point

So if we have 4th down, should we go for it? I think we take the points even if it still keeps it a 2 score game. Can't come away empty handed