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Clay inactive. Wow. Was he on the injury report this week? I wonder if they're keeping him healthy so they can cut him on the first day of the new league year.

As a matter of fact, I do think Daboll is bringing the kid along properly. Let’s start with the offensive design. Daboll does stuff that makes it easy for Allen. The kid is comfortable on his feet, so what do we do? Spread the field and give him a little room to roam. The yardage isn’t by accident. Watch the all-22 when it comes out on the run that Allen ended with a slide at the +30. Daboll takes a heavy package with 2TE and a FB, splits everyone out, moves the LBs to the edges of the field, and allows Allen to break of 20+ without anyone laying a finger on him. That option went away when the Jets countered by feigning the A-gap blitzes in the second half. Let’s walk back to the Jacksonville game, too. That’s a big, nasty defense. So what does Daboll do? Tight splits, condense the field toward the middle, and give the kid a little room on the outside to roam and to throw on roll outs. Play action is a young QB’s best friend. While we’ve gone away from that the last couple of games, we’ve done a healthy amount of that with “levels” concepts mixed in. To top it off, the kid doesn’t make the same mistakes twice. It’s a sign of good coaching. Remember the big shot on the left thigh he took against Jacksonville? This week he’s sliding to end runs with his feet up to protect himself. The kid also looks a lot more comfortable in the pocket — which is a reflection of the fact that he’s starting to understand what happens around him. There’s a long way to go, but the “eye test” on the kid is light years beyond where it was early in the season. So yes, while he’s a work in progress I do think he’s being brought along properly. And now I’ll turn it around on you - you’re entitled to your opinion that Daboll is “fluff,” but I’d like to hear your list of candidates of substance to fill HC openings where the principal task is to develop a young QB. I’ll put the Jets, the Jags, the Browns, and perhaps even the Cardinals, the Ravens, and the Redskins (assuming Smith is done) on that list.

Hes not related to those guys (insofar as I know). So it’s not nepotism. Much as beane is here bc of a connection to McDermott, not because of nepotism.

Of course daboll isn’t the best oc in the Division. It’s mcdaniels all day long. And, for what it’s worth, I never characterized daboll that way. But you still haven’t addressed the point that daboll will be an attractive candidate for an HC job because he is a bright offensive mind who can “raise” a young QB properly.

It was the right call to try that kick. Wind was strong that direction. The long attempt after hauschka was hurt was ridiculous. Hauschka couldn’t even get close to that range in warming up before the second half.

Four points: 1. I said he well could be a candidate, not that he would get the job. 2. I didn’t come up with the “grassy knoll” thing. I suppose this is subjective, but that reply isn’t funny or even comprehensible. Better said, it was dumb. 3. Who made what a powerhouse is immaterial. The point remains that HC candidates who show the ability to develop a young QB will be at a premium as soon as this offseason given the number of younger QBs coming into the league. 4. Working for saban and belichick isn’t merely paper pedigree. They don’t suffer fools and he’s shown that he can hack it with the best.

That’s about right. Home sidelines. The seats we were in are now dugout suites.

Sitting in section c3 w dad and brother. Ticket stubs are framed w a copy of the front page of the buffalo news signed by Reich and Christie thanking my dad for attending. It’s a cool thing. Probably the only one still up in my parents’ house.

Check out my post in the Green Bay thread. Offensive minds are at a premium right now, and Daboll is an offensive mind. Allen is starting to trend up and has been brought along the right way. Jax likely will break in a new QB next year. Daboll has a great pedigree. I’m worried about the Jets getting involved with him, but Jax makes a ton of sense, too. I will not be surprised at all if we have to look for a new OC in mid-January. Agreed on both points. And, for what it’s worth, I think the Jets job is worse than Jax. But if somebody offered me $15 to $20 million and a shot to work with a young QB on the East Coast, I would take it.

This is a really dumb reply. Truth of the matter is that Daboll has done a good job with Allen, and that offensive minds are in demand. Everybody wants the next Sean McVay. But that guy probably doesn’t exist. Somebody like Daboll night be the next best thing. Incredible pedigree, good job with a young QB this year, and a way to weaken a division rival to boot.

If Allen finishes strong I have to think Daboll would be a candidate for a jets opening. Not sure about history with their front office, but the guy has brought Allen along the right way and the jets could help themselves and hurt us at the same time with that hire.

Your view of what a perfect throw is also happens to be an IMPOSSIBLE throw. Kind of like saying they should have kicked at the end of the first half. They threw because hauschka measured his range pregame and knew he couldn’t make it. Same concept here. The throw could not have been any better under the circumstances.

No doubt. Don’t like Allen getting hit in the head and the laundry staying in the pocket, either. Not impressed with the zebras today.

That play could not have been made any better. Those aren’t excuses. They are realities. Maybe one other guy in football could make that play. The throw was plenty good enough to win the game.

Funny thing is, I was just thinking this feels like 1987 to me. This kid is a gamer through and through. McDermott knows what he is doing. The D is there. And we can fix the offense. Two premature thoghts: the tre White trade might be one of the best in NFL history one day. I realize there was plenty of moving on our end, but basically it works out to mahomes for white and Allen. The way these guys are all trending ... it might be really special. and, I will not be at all surprised if one day josh Allen will have the largest contract in NFL history.

Frankly it was as good a throw as anyone in football could have made in those circumstances. Humid day, end of game, kid was gassed, ball probably was a bit wet, throw was very long and across his body, made after running around, no chance to realize he had time to set his feet. I’m not trying to argue, but ... come on. It was a ridiculous play and clay should have finished it. Rodgers might be able to make that play, but I honestly don’t think anyone else could do have done it.

Amen. Kept the play alive after running for probably 120+ in 86 degree heat and getting smacked around when he hung in the pocket. The kid made a ridiculous play. Just incredible. And had the arm to get the ball home. I can’t believe anyone would blame him.

As was the back shoulder jones couldn’t reel in. This season is a success. We finally have a franchise QB. Get a couple of receivers in the offseason and we are in business.

The kid ran for probably 120+ in 86 degree heat, got smacked around when he was in th pocket, kept the play alive, and then threw a ball 50 yards in the air that hit clay in the hands. Not an easy catch, but holy cow blaming Allen for that incompletion ... wow.

Did you attend the game? Schmidt was atrocious. His hangtime is terrible. I thought the punts into the wind were low trajectory by design, and the results on those kicks were good. Otherwise, he was brutal.

It reminds me of the Kansas City game with Bledsoe before Gilbride was fired. Daboll does not deserve to be fired - can't make chicken salad out of chicken refuse - but this is just ugly.

Wind. It was windier than it last Ike’s yesterday.

I think it may have solved a problem re: the reps to go around. McCarron probably fell back to #3 in the pecking order last night anyway, so now they can give more time with the 1s and 2s to Peterman and Allen. I'm not a Peterman guy, but he deserves a lot of credit. He looks like he put on muscle in the offseason, and it struck me that he looked like he didn't belong with the 3s last night. I'm impressed by the kid, and I think the Bills are, too. I also think that Allen is progressing much more quickly than they thought he would. He definitely has complicated the QB decision.

I don't know if you've been to camp at all, but to my eyes the "live" look at all three of these guys has AJ as the "safe" play, Peterman as a nice guy who has insufficient arm strength, and Allen as a specimen. Allen seems to throw the deep stuff better than the short stuff. So maybe you're on to something here.

Giants 2007. Worst weather ever. NE 56-10 is “up” there, too.