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This is to be expected. It’s a negotiation. The good news here is that everyone in the article — including the progressives — is open to the idea of using taxpayer funds to facilitate the construction of a stadium.

I’m just going to leave this here for thought: https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/31991886/arizona-cardinals-become-1st-nfl-team-announce-plans-retail-sportsbook-stadium

EDIT: Just did a little market research. We're DMA #52 in Buffalo. Obviously a small market. But add Rochester (roughly 90 minutes from the stadium on a slow day, and a completely reasonable "add" if we're going to consider, for example, how long it takes to get to Foxboro from parts of the Boston DMA and to Met Life from basically anywhere in the NYC DMA) and the "Hamilton/Niagara Falls" slice of Toronto and we're probably market #20. That is not too shabby. So, again, the trick is getting those luxury seats sold. And that's where we have to be able to tap Toronto, what's left in Rochester, whatever is in Albany, and even (really) New York City. Josh Allen is the "hook" for all of those things. It's a math problem. If the Pegulas weren't serious about wanting to stay in Buffalo, they wouldn't have hired the lobbyist with tons of Albany connections. So, basically, New York State has to make it better financially for them to build here than to pay to leave for Austin, etc., and to build there. It's that simple.

The hotel is the Marriott downtown. Development around the stadium is basically pointless. Look at what's there now. Prohibition is basically empty all of the time. O'Neill's appears to be an ECC South bar. Even the Big Tree is basically dead most of the time. The stadium is about building a place to attract high-end money on game day. Nothing more, nothing less. That's the market in which we live.

Agreed. The constant pissing between Trumpers and everyone else about whether “Antifa” is worse than Trumpers is a problem. Extremists on both ends are out to lunch, and it just so happens that the right wing ones invaded the Capitol and threatened democracy.

You forgot the tactical gear. And the point that, had the intent been merely to subvert and imperil law enforcement by preventing the use of the cuffs, they would have been hidden, not brandished, as this person illegally stormed and roamed the Capitol.

Depends on what makes your definition of a trade great. The Vikings probably don’t like that one very much. The Bills and Chiefs, though? Both sides won.

We might be a part of it. Who says no to Josh Allen and Tre White for Pat Mahomes? I realize that the 2017 trade didn’t directly result in Mahomes for Allen + White. But that’s the practical effect. And it has worked out wonderfully for both side. It’s a great day to be a Bills fan. And, for what it’s worth, I wouldn’t deal Allen for anyone, including Mahomes.

Hoax. What’s the explanation, again? The insurrectionists are into kink? Or were they looking for Antifa? Do tell.

Cool. Whitewash this just like your HCQ hoax. Those dudes with zip ties and the unruly mob were merely tourists, right?

Maybe you could lend him some of your stash. If you have any to spare.

Maybe Biden can choke down some HCQ to help with that mush brain thing.

I’m not arguing with you, just telling you what I hear. It’s not going downtown because it’s too expensive to build there. Get ready for open air on the ECC South lots. Probably saves tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars in land acquisition and infrastructure costs. The big tip to me was the change of position on the Skyway (which sort of feeds into your Ontario point). Those annoying birds started chirping a little later.

Get ready for a huge mistake.

Normally I agree with you, but in this instance my understanding is that the stadium it has to be in OP bc it’s too expensive to acquire land/build/address infrastructure downtown. Or at least that’s what little birdies say.

“Ownership source” probably was a polite way of saying Jerry/Stephen/Someone else named Jones.

Agreed. He’s gone. As he should be. They’ll give him the weekend to resign and then commence impeachment proceedings.

Yup. He’s gone. The difference here? Democrats will dispose of one of their scumbags. Republicans continue to venerate their chief scumbag. He’s going to get impeached. Heastie turned on him today. Conviction probably will follow in the Senate. Before today, I think it would have been a close vote. Now that Biden wants him gone, too . . . It’s over. It’s just a question of when.

FYI - This Cuomo news today is a problem. This isn’t a political statement. It’s a Bills issue. The Bills don’t cut the deal with Poloncarz or the County. It’s the Governor. And now, the pro-Bills governor is under significant, real, severe duress. Now we have no idea with whom the Bills will be able to cut a deal. Keep an eye on what Carl Heastie says about this in the coming days. If Heastie turns on him, then it’s over, and we’re looking at Governor Hochul in the short term and Governor James/DiNapoli/Hochul/Zeldin/someone else in the long term.

I somewhat disagree with respect to sentence #2. The NFL does not want Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer questioning the NFL’s anti-trust exemption. So, yes, perhaps the NFL wouldn’t mind the Bills in Toronto or Mexico City or London or even Austin. But that candle might not be worth the game given the keen interest of the Senate Majority Leader in this topic.

Winner winner chicken dinner. About that 1031 point from earlier in the thread ….

Ding ding we have a winner. Today’s salvo was an opener. Nothing more, nothing less.

It’s going in OP. Book it.

Maybe on the Sabres. But cash is cash. It might be a way to help get a stadium with no cash out of pocket and the loss only of a business that is a headache and a money pit.

Again, it's a negotiation. Stake an extreme position to start, then walk it back, and everyone feels like they get something. It's the perfect chance for the Pegulas to exit the Sabres at a massive, tax-free profit (assuming someone is dumb enough to pay for that franchise).