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Good point. Those dudes that shipped off to Afghanistan or Iraq or Germany or South Korea who meet your criteria should fly home on their own dime and using their own leave - if they can get it - to vote. same thing for ER docs working 24 hour shifts on Election Day. Been to target? Eff off. You can’t vote. all in all, a good plan on your end. See prior comment.

Define “able.”

Still no denial. And are you even an attorney? Perhaps that question should be investigated.

Hoax. Absentee ballot typically are cast via mail. This is what you said: “our checks and prescriptions are never late, but nice try, worried about voting by mail? Get off your lazy mothertrucking butt and put on a mask and vote in person” And yet, despite ample opportunity, you haven’t denied that you feed at the government trough.

Nice. So it is gov’t bucks. That’s a start. Now, let’s move to step #2. Where was that work performed? I’m going to take a whack at it and say that much of it was not performed in either your publicly-provided office or in a courtroom. More specifically, it was performed at home. So, the question remains, why is it acceptable for you to get paid in government funds for work performed from home, but unacceptable for teachers to be compensated with like monies for work performed in a like location?

Gov’t bucks. That’s how you make it. And you have time to respond, but no time to come up with facts. Lame response from lame boonies lawyer.

Racism. Perfect for hate week. Also, alternative facts are great. Any data supporting your 1.5 million number? Probably just made it up, which is par for the course for Trumpers. On the one hand, the virus is a hoax and will magically disappear. On the other hand, Dear Leader saved 1.5 million by banning flights from China. Only in your warped reality does this make sense.

You keep on saying ignorance, but you don’t have any, you know, specific reasons why it’s ignorance. Maybe it’s sort of an “alternative ignorance,” kind of like your alternative reality in which you’re not benefitting from socialism (even though you really have) but it’s cool for you to repeat some BS tropes and allege that teachers should take a haircut because they don’t deserve full dime for working from home. Aren’t you the same guy who was railing against absentee voting by mail this morning but then clammed up when you realized that your boy Trump votes that way?

So I take it you’re not giving it back? Makes sense. It’s OK for you to work from home at a full rate, but teachers can’t do the same. *** And, basically, when you really think about it, you’re a socialist. But the OK kind that Trump likes. Cash the Trump socialism bucks? I bet you did. Take government money for nothing when you’re “working” from home? All signs point to yes. But you’re a “Republican,” so when you engage in the practice it’s not socialism. It’s only when others do it that it counts as socialism.

Bottom line: it wasn’t a hoax and it never magically disappeared. Got it. How does one make progress against a hoax? And why do we need progress now, when this was supposed to have magically disappeared in April? Could it be that the progress comes after far too many have died in part due to the ignorance and foolishness of Trump? And where do we stand in the Lysol issue? Is that a friend or a foe?

New entry for hate week: the Bible. Trump doesn’t follow it, doesn’t respect it, and hasn’t read it. And, to the extent his fake Christian followers have read it, they blithely ignore it and worship their false idol. So, biblical teachings, GTFO. The prosperity gospel runs this show.

Nice. Donnie is exempted. But all those people who set the stage for him? Oops. Not as much. And Chad Wolf? He's not the president or the Vice President. Oops again. But you're the rule of law party! Makes. Perfect. Sense.

That's a good point. Maybe we should put nepotism into hate week. Thank you for brining up that important point! Let us know when you're going to give back the part of your government salary that you "earned" working from home during the pandemic. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. You want teachers to take a haircut? Step right up and do the same. If you're going to lead, you have to do it from the front!

“My father.” Eric trump is such a loser. Maybe someday he’ll do something on his own. The he won’t have to say “my father” rebrew times a minute. Grow the eff up and be a of big and do something in your own.

Ohhhh another one! The hatch act. Eff that ***** and the rule of law. We do what we want; White House convention speech, Secretary of State speech from Jerusalem. It’s all good. Eff it. We do what we want, rule of law be damned.

Hoax. Say hi to Jerry Falwell, Jr. next time you have your meeting of fake Christians. *** Another item for hate week: citizenship rules. Even when we try to honor Puerto Rico, we denigrate it. Apparently the Trump jr girlfriend doesn’t think Puerto Ricans are citizens. Hate away! *** Got one more - shithole countries. They trotted our a couple of people from Shithole countries tonight to try to pretend Trump and his followers aren’t racists. But we all know it’s a hoax, and that Trump is a racist and a fraud.

ECDOH shut it down. OP, stunningly, was going to allow it until Polo got wind of it and (smartly) shut it down.

That’s my hope. Meanwhile we’re flinging doors open at primary and secondary schools without care as to how to safely get kids in the door on the first day and seeing a bubbling at universities that suggests trouble is inevitable. A little patience would go a long way. I’d really like to get in the stadium this year, and staying home in September is one of the best ways to do it. The virus mutates. And death isn’t the only effect. But why let common sense get in the way of a good argument. Bottom line in this forum is that, while we won’t get into the first two games, we have a chance to see the inside of the stadium after that. And this is a good thing. So let’s all show a little respect for one another, wear a friggin’ mask when in public, and hopefully we can all get back to normal sooner than later.

I agree with most of this. It’s a mess right now. I think passive investing plays a part in it, too. Many people I know don’t have savings accounts, they have a Vanguard S&P index. So they money keeps on rolling in, stock values keep rising, and the disconnect between Main and Wall Street grows. If you’re in the market, things are dandy right now. If you’re not, you’re screwed. Huge wealth transfer in the last six months. It’s ridiculous (and this is coming from a guy who made a killing based on timing and selection of stocks in early March).

I think we might agree on the economy. This whole thing is a house of cards built on credit. And it’s a huge wealth transfer opportunity for people who can afford securities. I have no idea what the solution is, but I know that it’s not firing up coal plants again. Unfortunately we wasted $2 trillion this year when we chose to buy time without having a plan to defeat the “hoax” of a virus. Now we have nothing to show for that. So the next round of stimulus has to result in something, e.g., green energy innovation, infrastructure, rural broadband, whatever. We can’t light it on fire again.

Suppression will be the day of the election, and perhaps the time leading up to the election (see Brian Kemp’s stunts in GA). The litigation is going to lie in the debates about which absentee ballots should be counted, and whether the Trump Post Office scam to delay the arrival of ballots should be allowed to knock out late-arriving absentees. I think you and I agree that it’s going to be a mess. I’m very worried that Biden’s margin of victory is going to be sitting in bins in post offices and boards of election on November 3, not to be counted for days and during which time Trump is going to lie, claim victory, and cause chaos. We all have to be prepared to wait about 10 days for a result. Even then, Trumper liars in places like Georgia or Arizona could threaten the election by not certifying their state’s delegates (assuming Biden wins, needs that certification to hit 270, and Kemp/Ducey throw their respective states and therefore the election, again assuming that Republicans retain enough state delegations should this thing reach the house) to Trump. Arizona is what really, really, really worries me right now. It’s going to be tight and Ducey is a hopeless Trumper who puts fealty ahead of country.

Isn’t the virus a hoax? So the spittle point, assuming there was spittle, is not moving to me. (And she has a mask on, so I’m not going to worry about the mouth issue. And it also doesn’t appear that she was spat upon, so we’re going to skip right past that.) Your question otherwise is pretty vague. Can she talk or get up and walk away? Sure. Why not? If you’re getting at an application of force question, the first thing she has to do in this scenario (involving a “threat” of non-deadly force and not involving a burglary of her home, assuming she’s in Wisconsin and the law there is the same as it is in NYS) is retreat. It doesn’t look like anyone or anything blocked that. So if you’re suggesting that she should have been able to strike/shoot/whatever one of the people around her, I don’t think it would have been justified based on what I saw.

I agree with you on the “recognition” point. See my Prada and pearls comment. I think you’re focusing on manufacturing, and your points about the flight of manufacturing jobs (due in some part to bad trade deals and in other, significant part to the fact that it’s simply cheaper to make things when you pay people only a couple of bucks an hour) largely is fair. The problem, of course, is that crappy trade deals or not, those people always were going to be left behind as technology evolved. Trump said he would do something for them, and he really hasn’t. On top of that, with respect to unions as a whole, Trump and Republicans did grave damage to public unions through the Supreme Court’s Janus decision — an assault upon stare decisis if ever there was one — and ignored the rule of law to manufacture a result that significantly undercut non-manufacturing unions, such as teachers unions, police unions, and elements of unions representing health care workers. The disaster point is something with which I probably disagree. If you’re suggesting that Biden will be a disaster, I couldn’t disagree more strongly. (As an aside, if this current state of affairs isn’t a disaster, I don’t know what is.) If you’re suggesting the election will be a mess because it’s going to take time for largely Democratic absentees to arrive and to be counted, and that those arrivals will be Biden’s margin of victory, and that in the meantime Trump will lie and claim a rigged election and the idiots who follow him will buy it and threaten to throw the country into chaos, then yes, I agree. I worry about that every day.

I’m not missing the point. Union members, at least in the manufacturing sector, typically are white males who buy Trump’s lies. Yes, that collectivity and strength was fading before Trump. But Trump has accelerated the process. Good for rich people, bad for the working class.

Unfortunately, yes, I agree. Laborers are voting against their own interests, and Trump’s lies have eaten away at union strength. Unions don’t vote as a block like they used to.