ndirish1978

I know this is a message board and people express off the wall opinions. That said, I struggle to comprehend why people bother to take positions that have little or no relevance to what will actually happen in the real world. Does anyone think we are actually going to cut a player we just signed to an extension and who has received support from the FO and HC ad nauseum? Then, we argue over this proposition for 9 pages of posts, I really don't get it. I understand talking about even outlandish ideas, like signing Mathis (which I would love), which won't happen because we simply don't attract top-tier FAs. But why spend time discussing something that has less than zero chance at actually happening? How would this signing not set us back another 2-3 years? We'd have to give up at least two 1st rd draft picks and 2 more high picks as well. Fitz isn't great, but he's decent enough. We have ZERO pass rush, need 1 lb, 2 DEs, LT, WR2, another good CB. We can't and don't sign top level FAs, so how are we going to fill all those holes if we give up what is going to require at least 4 of our top picks over the next 2 years.

I've got a signature bet for you that says he gets drafted by the end of the 3rd rd.

This thread makes little sense. Of course there are players worth paying #10 money to. The OP simply assumes the team will go with what he perceives to be a position of need (OT, DE) rather than listening to what has already been said by the front office and allow for possible FA signings. 1- Nix said he likes the depth of the DL in this draft. He said there are many good DE's worth a pick in the 2-4 rds, but that may not get people "too excited." That does NOT mean that if they are really excited about a specific DE in the 1st and he's there, that we won't take him, but it sounded to me like they were assuming the guy they like would be gone by them. 2- Nix said he is looking to add 2 DEs, at least 1 CB, 1 WR, 1-2 OTs this offseason at a minimum. We all all but assured to get a top 2 CB or WR at #10 and #2 or 3 OT will likely be available. They will draft the highest rated player. 3- At this point in time you have to look at the draft board laterally as well as vertically. You can't take a player who you have rated #16 in the 1st because he's at a need position if you still have a top 10 guy left when you pick. There are about 4 players I would be happy with at 10 who are not DEs or OTs. I think drafting on a needs-based approach is what made our team terrible in the first place.

Very cool, thanks.

All the discussion on the board has centered around pas rushing DEs in the draft. I understand they are the ones who are expected to bring pressure in a 4-3, but I'm wondering about a Denver-esque utilization of an OLB. I'm thinking Perry, Upshaw, Cam Johnson and Irvin? Am I off base?

I believe Stevie could develop to be a solid #1, but at present you're correct, he plays more like a very solid #2. I would be happy with Blackmon or Floyd at 10 (Blackmon much more so obviously). Reiff has the same problems Bulaga had- short arms. Considering I don't see a DE who is a clear-cut value at 10 playing DE in 4-3 (most of these guys are tweeners) and Kalil will be gone when we draft, I could very well see us going WR or CB at 10 and then picking up a DE/T in rds 2-3 where there is more value.

He's reportedly asking for LESS money than it would cost to franchise him. I don't understand why the deal isn't done.

Don't rule out CB. I would be less than happy, but we'd stand to get a top 2 CB at 10 and that may be the highest rated player on their board.

This article is about 5 years too late. "Lockdown" corners are not a requirement. Teams have shown that schemes and pressuring the QB obviate the need for shutdown cbs.

How about we spend our cap space on 1- At least 2 guys who can rush the passer 2- A legitimate #2 WR. We have a ton of 3s and a viable 1 in SJ, we NEED a #2 and he's not on the roster. How about another thread wondering if we could trade for Sproles or Bush "so we can have a 3-headed monster?" This board used to have legitimate discussions about our roster and news about players we were rumored to be in the running for. Lately, all I see are a bunch of trolls posting and people starting threads bashing players they don't like.

Carrington and Johnson are both DEs

Why do I keep seeing these threads? Guys want to keep blowing up our lineup for some maybe players that we're not gonna sign anyway. How about a trade for Cam Newton? Why bring it up when it's not feasible at all? Flynn will be picked up for inflated money by someone promising a shot at a starting job. The Bills invested in Fitzpatrick, paying him #1 money and they have already stated he's the starter. If we get another QB it will be in the draft, not someone expected to compete for a starting role.

Buddy described the type of pass rusher he is looking for in his presser- 6'4 or 6'5 240-250. I do like your guy, but I think we're done drafting undersized guys.

Voted 30x. Come on guys, let's get him the win

I don't disagree with your sentiment. However, I don't believe he conditioned the statement and I really don't see the trade coming. They keep talking up Naaman and have indicated Brad Smith will be playing a lot more receiver. We have gotten more production out of our late rd draft picks and UDFAs than we have our early ones. We drafted Hairston and Searcy in this year's 4th rd and Easley last year. I don't believe Nix is willing to trade away young prospects, even for a receiver in his prime. Again, I would like to bring him in myself, just not convinced we'll do that. We've all seen the national media's ignorance when it comes to this team in the past. Most likely, they saw we have 2 guys on IR, Jones is out for 4-6 and assumed we needed a WR so they reported we are interested. But, I hope I'm wrong.

I thought that was hilarious

I agree. I disagreed with the decision to move him inside, but Chan did state that if he were moved outside again he would probably stay there. I hope he supplants Kelsay or Merriman as a starter, really like him and his potential.

I think the most relevant point to this discussion lies in a quote from Buddy Nix from two years ago"we do not trade draft picks, we will try and accumulate more when we can"

Yeah, I read that and came back to remove the post. Too late!

Maybin was released weeks ago http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d821f5db3/article/former-firstround-lb-maybin-cut-jets-claim-four-off-waivers

1- Peggy would always remember how her mother told her she was "born with a pom pom in her hand" 2- Like mother like daughter 3- The apple doesn't fall far from the tree 4- Touchdown sends woman into premature labor

+1, beat me to it!

NO

That's his new nickname as far as I'm concerned. Chan "Warlock" Gailey

I guess Aaron Williams in the 2nd wasn't as bad as a lot of us thought it was! Makes me think Buddy knows what he's doing. Another thing I love about the FO is they aren't afraid to start UDFAs and late round picks over higher drafted players. Normally I'd be pessimistic and say "yeah, but that's cause our team is so bad, we start guys off the street", but players like Jones are actually being effective against other teams. This team has a lot of upside.