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Drew Brees. He has a $26.4 million cap hit in 2015 and a $27.4 million cap hit in 2016. He's due $19 million in cash in '15 and $20 million in cash in '16. He is 35 years old and while not falling off a cliff, his talent is declining, IMO. I don't know that the Saints could ever be talked into it....but I think hey would at least have to listen if the Bills came knocking offering a boat load of draft picks. The Saints are a bit of a mess. They've mortgaged their future in an attempt to make a SB run in '14 or '15. Their cap situation next year is a nightmare and '16 is a worse nightmare. With Brees the Saints only won 6 games this year......and perhaps they could see an opportunity to start a rebuilding process and purge some high price players if they don't think the SB is realistic in the next season or 2 with Brees, expecially if they can snag several high picks from the Bills in the process. The Bills would have to give up such a bounty to get Brees, I'm not even sure how I'd feel about it, but after so many years with such futility at the QB position I'd probably be on board, even knowing that Brees might only have 2 good years left in him. I'm thinking a Bills offer of EJ Manuel, 2015's 2nd and 4th round picks and 2016's 1st and 3rd round picks might get the Saints to start entertaining the idea of such a trade. The Bills get their quality QB for 2 years, the Saints get a bounty of picks plus a QB who can compete for the vacant opening and rid themselves of an aging and declining talent. They also rid themselves of huge salary cap figures. Short term it's a bad move for the Saints, long term Micky Loomis looks like a genius.

That means I'm rooting for the bengals. I'd much rather play the Bengals at home than the steelers. A lot can change between then and now....but for tonight I'm rooting for the steelers

If you're cool with the way the Bills perform on Sundays, more power to you. I am not and the point of my post was to show the direct correlation between bad offense and not making the playoffs. I also believe the evidence shows that our offense is an absolute wreck and is way worse then it was with lesser talent 3 years ago. Knowing that you need a good offense to sustain success in the NFL makes the decision to get rid of Marrone a very easy one, IMO. Also while I don't expect Terry PeGula to check Buffalo Bills forums it wouldn't surprise me if he has the pulse on what fans think. I know he listens to WGR radio......and I know a lot of what gets discussed on Wgr also gets discussed here. For all the crap Mike Schoop gets on this board.....the guy for the most part is dead on. If the guys running One Bills Drive shared half of Schoop's philosophies over the last 15 years we'd have been a lot better off.

NFL offenses' weren't quite as prolific in the 90's and early 2000's as they are now. With that in mind, and with respect to the point I'm trying to make I will post where the Bills ranked in offensive yards per play (which in my mind best reflects an offenses ability.) 1 obviously being the best offense in the NFL, and 30-32 being the worst offense in the league. Years we made the playoffs in ( )'s. 1990: 2 (Super Bowl Loss) 1991: 3 (ditto) 1992: 6 (ditto) 1993: 17 (ditto) 1994: 18 1995: 22 (Divisional Round Loss) 1996: 21 (Wildcard Round Loss) 1997: 23 1998: 7 (Wildcard Round Loss) 1999: 14 (Wildcard Round Loss) Let the playoff drought begin: 2000: 12 2001: 17 2002: 13 2003: 30 2004: 26 2005: 27 2006: 26 2007: 22 2008: 22 2009: 28 2010: 22 2011: 13 2012: 13 2013: 29 2014: 29 This makes it pretty easy to see where the ineptitude of this franchise lies in the last 15 seasons. Our offense has never ranked above 13th in the last 15 seasons, and we've only had 5 seasons where the offense could be called average. Let me state that another way: We have not once in the last 15 seasons finished in the top third of the league in offensive yards per play. Incredible! Another point is the imprint Marrone has made on this team offensively. It's been horrendous. Back to back rankings of 29th offensively, that coming off back to back rankings of 13th under Gailey....and you could argue Marrone had more to work with. Like this year, some of our defenses have been stellar the past 15 seasons, but a stellar defense can't get a bad offense into the playoffs, as evidenced by above. The only way to get into the playoffs and sustain success is to get our offense right, and I DO NOT trust Marrone and his staff to get it right. His teams offensive rankings are pitiful and I think this makes it very clear we need a change.

This made me laugh. Let's hope today is a better day!

I think it's a wise move....Coughlin's track record there speaks for itself. I think the lack of a quality RB, mostly due to the injuring of Jennings have really hurt that offense. Eli is so much better when he has a decent run game around him....and they were not getting that at all with Jennings banged up. Andre Williams stinks, IMO. You might be right about Whisenhunt, but its just delaying the inevitable IMO. The way that team tried to build it's team, ala signing and drafting OG's like crazy, just makes no sense, which is more of an indictment on their GM.

2 college coaches that are getting a bit of chatter are: 1 - Art Briles (Baylor) 2 - Gud Malzhan (AubUrn) I have been of the belief for sometime that Bill Cowher has been waiting for the Giants job. We'll see if the G-men decide to part ways with Coughlin. All the chatter has Jim Harbaugh hopping over to Oakland if he doesn't take the job at the University of Michigan, but I believe the Dolphins will make a huge push to get him, as they did several years ago before he went to San Fran. I believe the Jets will target an offensive minded head coach after Rex Ryan's tenure......and I think Art Briles and some of the quality offensive coordinators in the NFL will get looks by the NYJ. I also believe there will be a shakeup with the Tennessee Titans staff. That team is way too much of a train wreck for there not to be changes.

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Once again, not true. This is correct!

Was just about to post the same thing. We are not in. In fact according to my calculations there's no way the Bills can come out of week 16 as the #6 seed.

Think he's better than Vick. Don't forget this is a team that almost beat the pats with geno at the helm. Any given Sunday?

Setup a fund for someone who gets a $50,000 pension from the league? Someone who cashed in his 401k for $0.25 on the dollar? For a pro athlete who had a 14 year run of making pro athlete money? Look I hope for the best for everyone and I hope his situation gets better for himself and his family. But every man needs to accept responsibility for their decisions and for their lives......and that entire article by Tim Graham rubbed me the wrong way. Blaming Butler for not resigning him when he said he would. Saying the NFL doesn't care about him......it honestly all sounds like sour grapes to me. I also didnt like how Tim Graham called Duerson's widow to get a comment on Talley saying it's cowardly to commit suicide. He basically threw Talley under the bus and made him look and seem like an insensitive ass when that's not what he meant. Very unprofessional from Tim Graham.....which doesn't surprise me at all. The guy seems to do anything possible to give his stories the most juice and drama possible.

Well Robert Woods certainly answered the bell today. Caught everything thrown his way including a couple of acrobatic, tough catches to extend drives. Obviously, his one-hander down the sideline will get all the ptess, but the catch he made on 3rd and 3 with about 4-5 minutes left in the 1st half down at the Bills 20 yard line was a heck of a catch. At that point in the game the Bills were up 7-3. If Woods doesn't make a great catch to move the chains we punt. Instead he catches it, and the Bills march al the way down the field and score a TD with 43 seconds left. 14-3 at the half.

And that's the problem with the Bills. Every single team deals with ebbs and flows during the course of the game. The teams that can handle adversity and make the proper adjustments during the game are generally the teams that come out on top. Last weeks game was a perfect example of how bad the Bills become when they get hit in the mouth and need to fight their way back. After the safety, you could just see the wind sucked out of the entire team. At that point in the game, with plenty of time left to win it, Bills fans knew it was over. 2 Guys in particular that really bothered me were Robert Woods and Sammy Watkins. Their body language and the way they carried themselves between plays when the goin' got tough was discouraging. Dropping their heads after an errant pass or a quick pressure, or in Woods case a dropped ball. I really want to see this team handle themselves more professionally and with more fight when things get tough. We will see how it shakes out tomorrow.

General admission means exactly what you said. first come first serve. AKA get their when gates open and you're sitting on the 50! I'm assuming club seats and suites of any kind will be closed off to the public.

Russ Brandon in a stroke of genius, built a sledding hill that begins in the upper concourse of section 301 and sends sledders down to midfield. Tickets are expected to run $10/person or $20 for a family of four. Sledding hours will be 10am - 5pm Monday through Friday and closed on Sundays. Russ told the Buffalo News that the newly formed Buffalo Bills - Winter Amusements division will, "leave no stone unturned when it comes to finding ways to give back to the community and put a smile on the faces of families in Buffalo and the greater Western New York community. All aspects of our business will be assessed on a case to case bases and in totality." Russ also went onto thank Erie County executive, Mark Polancarz and New York State Governor, Andrew Cuomo for their continued commitment to Western New York and the Buffalo Bills in the form of a $10 million grant to help with the newly formed winter amusements department. The $10 million tax payer investment is expected to create an additional 2 part time jobs for Western New Yorkers as well as an estimated $17,500 in additional annual taxable revenue for the Buffalo Bills.

I want a coach who goes for 4th and short from the right spots on the field. I want a coach who forgoes the punt and tries to exrend a drive when the statistics say he should. I want a coach who understands this is a scoring league so you better have a plan t get the team to 30 points every week. I want a coach that doesn't think 17 points is enough. I want a coach who is an effective communicator and doesn't talk in circles. Right now, as it stands, we have a coach who possesses none of those things.

Russ "we will leave no stone unturned" Brandon. Wished he hadn't turned the stone over that Marrone was hiding under. Marrone punting on 4th and 6 from the 45 with 9 minutes to go.....down 10......with the season on the line, was the most gutless thing I've seen out of a Bills coach, EVER. It was truly nauseating.

Statistically, based on decades on data you are flat out wrong. the book in that situation gave us a 6% advantage in % of winning the game by attempting that 4th and down. You saying that the right move was to punt is no different than the ignorance of our coach. Facts can be a stubborn thing.

It was tempting to cash in on the $75 handout......but I absolutely hate these type of lawsuits and believe it's one of America's many problems. These type of lawsuits end up being handed down to the end consumers somehow, someway, usually in the form of increased insurance premiums, an expense which then gets passed on to the paying customer. With those firm beliefs I'd be a total hypocrite if I accepted the $75, so I threw the offer in the garbage. Not saying my way is the right way, but that was my decision. The Bills offered a service, I accepted it......and I actually enjoyed it, especially getting the texts just prior to games with the inactive lists. It's a shame we live in a sue happy society. Will this lawsuit hurt the Bills? No, just a small dent for them, but these lawsuits can and do tear apart small business and individuals who don't have the wealth of NFL franchises.

David J. Chao, MD @ProFootballDoc · 2h2 hours ago Despite @ByTimGraham report @CJSPILLER of clavicle surgery. Season should NOT be over. At worst IR/dfr. Operation done for faster return. Reply0 replies Retweet2 retweets2 Favorite0 favorites More David J. Chao, MD @ProFootballDoc · 2h2 hours ago Reply to @ByTimGraham Not necessarily the case. The reason to do surgery on clavicle is for quicker return. Could be IR/dfr. He's saying it's usually a 6 week recovery. The question becomes do the Bills feel Spiller is worth the IR with designation to return. Based on the way they use him and his overall production I'm not sure they will. Either way, hope he gets well soon David J. Chao, MD @ProFootballDoc · 4h4 hours ago CJ SPILLER has clavicle fracture per @JasonLaCanfora. Too bad. Likely surgery and could be 6 weeks. @buffalobills

I did notice Russ Brandon referred to Jeff Littmann in the past tense in his presser today. I'm wondering if we'll ever see Russ Brandon pressers anymore, now that the Bills will have owners who will show their face it seems his capacity as the face of ownership for the Bills might be over. I'd like to see Russ not involved in the football side of the Buffalo Bills. I know a lot of people assume he isn't, but I'm not sure I buy that entirely. When the Bills posted their behind the scenes draft recap video back in May it seemed like Russ had a role during the draft, something I wasn't pleased to see.

Just posted this in another thread.....I do believe 9 wins will be the magic number to win the AFC East this year. Patriots offense was ranked dead last in yards per play coming into this week. Their defense, which has been their strength looks very susceptible tonight. Dolphins, and the Jets are in the same boat as us, IMO. I think the Bills, while not the favorite to win the division definitely are very much alive in a very soft division this season.

The funny thing about this season is 6-6 or 7-5 gives us a great shot to win our division this year. Dolphins and Jets are in the same boat as us and the Pats are much weaker than the general public realizes. Their offense was dead last in yards per play through the first. Theri defense, which appeared to be their strength, looks very susceptible tonight. That's why yesterdays lost stung so much, because I get the feeling 9-7 might take the AFC East this year. 6-6 down the stretch would've seemed much more attainable than 7-5.