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Well played.

You got the posters confused cause I never said that bout EJ, must've been another poster. I'm not saying Ej is.....stick a fork in him done, I'm just very much wanting the Bills to add another QB via the draft this year. What's the worst that can happen, EJ has some stiff comp. in camp and rises to the occasion to win the starting job? I'd be fine with that. I just don't want to see the Bills pass on talent and put all their eggs in Manuel's basket. I don't think he showed nearly enough to deserve that status.

Agreed. With so many bad QB's starting in the NFL, I don't see how he doesn't fit into the top 32 picks. I actually have one of those gut feelings the Jets will be a likely landing spot for Boyd, and I won't be happy if that happens.

It's based on a lot more than just tonight, I've followed him closely for the last 2 seasons. He's a better QB than Manuel. I wished I believed more in Manuel, I'm a Bills fan, but my eyes don't lie. And I've never seen a QB with poor accuracy and poor pocket presence succeed in the NFL. EJ Manuel refuses to step up and keep his eyes downfield when faced with pressure in the pocket. His accuracy also was near the worst of all QB's this past season. Big red flags. Boyd is no sure lock to be a great QB, but I'd be more comfortable taking a chance with him than Manuel. He succeeds in the 2 most important QB qualities IMO, accuracy and pocket presence. Look I want EJ Manuel to succeed just as bad as the rest of us. I'm just stating what my eyes saw this season. I'm not happy with a Carson Palmer or Jeff Garcia, FWIW. What did those 2 QB's accomplish in this league. I want a QB who can compete for championships. EJ might've beaten Boyd head to head last year, but that has no impact on my belief that Boyd is a much better QB than Manuel. His poclet presence and accuracy are both much, much better than Manuel.

Tajh Boyd is already and will continue to be a better QB than EJ Manuel when he gets to the NFL. He keeps his eyes downfield when under pressure and delivers the ball accurately to his receivers. He's also shown the fearlessness to test defenses deep, which I like. Once again, this kid has a lot to work on, but if drafted by the Bills he'd be the best QB on our roster come September 2014. Question is will he be a 1st rounder or not? If you could have one player on the Bills right now who would you rather have.................Boyd or Watkins?

Keep acquiring talent at the QB position and eventually you'll find a keeper, much like Pete Carroll has done with the Seahawks. So you took a QB high last year, that means you can't take another one high this year? None sense. This team has not had a franchise signal caller in 15 years, and we're supposed to hand the keys over to EJ Manuel based on his potential. No way, I don't subscribe to that philosophy. It's that philosophy that has earned us 0 playoff appearances in a decade and a half. For all those who want to draft a LB or an OL or a big WR or a TE with our 1st or 2nd round pick, let me ask how many extra wins will that get us in 2014? 1 maybe? Maybe we become a 7-8 team. Because a good QB gets you and extra 4 wins right off the rip. I'm all for continually drafting signal callers high until you're certain you've got your guy. There's no way anyone can sit here and say that EJ showed enough to know he will succeed. Not saying he won't, but I'm not clinging all my hope on a guy who looked average at best. The rookie wage scale makes it affordable to draft QB's, all the more reason to draft them early and often until you're certain you've got a good one.

I was ALL-IN on Tajh as an NFL prospect coming out of last year. I was actually a bit surprised he didn't enter the 2013 draft. After another season, I have to admit, I have some more reservations about his game and how it'll translate in the NFL, but I'm still a believer. He'll have a lot of work as far as recognizing defenses and making better reads, much like EJ Manuel, but I think he's a much better pure passing QB than EJ. When you watch EJ it seems like you are watching a very manufactured passer, with an odd passing stroke and accuracy all over the place. Tajh Boyd, on the otherhand has a very tight compact throwing motion, and a great looking stroke. Very good accuracy, and a beautiful deep ball, that is usually right on the money. Sammy Watkins is a good receiver, and he owes a lot of his success to the beautiful deep ball that Boyd throws. It now appears Boyd will be available in the late 1st-2nd round area and I'd love for the Bills to grab him. I know they won't, but just wait and see, this kid will be a good NFL QB, and I have a bad feeling it'll be with the Jets. He's on tonight, and I look forward to watching his last college game, hopefully his next is in a Bill uniform.

Cutler........yuck. Not a QB I want to build my team around. An average QB, who take too many sacks, turns the ball over too much and doesn't have great pocket presence. If I'm a Bears fan I'm not thrilled with this news. Cutler might get you to 10 wins if the chips fall right, but he's not a guy who can advance his team deep in the playoffs. Will never contend for championships.

After watching the Bills very closely these last 14 seasons I'm of the strong belief that you should draft a QB high each and every year until you're sure you got your guy. Until you have a solid QB in place, not much else matters. Andrew Luck takes a 2-3 win team and makes them a 10 win team. Seattle take a 8-9 win team and makes them a 13 win team. A team with a so-so roster and a solid QB can be a consistent playoff squad. A team with an outstanding roster and a so-so QB would be lucky to squeak into the playoffs and never have a serious shot at contending for anything more. With the way the rookie payscale used to be setup teams couldn't afford to consistently draft QB's high, because their contracts were too rich. That is not the case anymore. EJ's contract is paying him top end backup QB money, so there's no excuse not to draft another QB high again in 2014. If EJ doesn't pan out we have another option, if EJ beats out the draft pick, he will have earned it....and the competition between the two can only help. The bottom line is if you're not sure you have your guy (and there's no way the Bills can feel 100% that EJ will be a star in this league, how could they?) you better continue looking, because without a star QB you have ABSOLUTELY NO SHOT.

Without considering age or how many years left they have in the league, who is the better RB today? CJ Spiller or Freddy Jackson? If only one back could get all of the carries in our next game vs. Miami which back would you want to get all of those carries, Freddy or CJ? I'll chime in with my opinion at the end. If anyone know how to start a poll, I'd appreciate it if you could set one up, so people could simply vote (I don't know how to do that).

Freddy's game is not speed based. Obviously he had an extra gear back in 2010 and 2011, and has slowed down some, but because his game isn't based solely on speed and quickness (ala CJ Spiller), I still think he ahs a lot to offer. Although a bit more talented I liken Freddy's game to a guy like Kevin Faulk of the Patriots, who retired 2 years ago at the age of 35. Their games are similar in that they are both versatile, leaders, shifty and chain movers, Freddy is also excellent at picking up the blitz. Barring a serious injury (especially to the lower body), and his knees due seem to be weakened, I'd expect another 2 maybe 3 years out of Freddy. If he was a player like CJ, I'd say, yes, possibly he could go because once a speed guys speed is gone he's done (see Lee Evans), but he's clearly not that type of player. His contract is up after the 2014 season, so we'll see what the Bills do at that point. At this point in their careers (not looking at potential and years left) I strongly believe Freddy is a better back than CJ Spiller.

When is the last time the Buffalo Bills won 3 straight game? Serious question. Just checked it was weeks 1-3 of the 2011 season where we beat the Chiefs, Raiders and Patriots to open the season. We then went on to win 3 of our next 13 games that season. The Bills actually haven't won back to back games since week 3 of the 2012 season, which is pretty pathetic. We've played 26 games without stringing 2 wins in a row together. Think about that. I don't think your brain even needs to entertain the idea of winning 3 games in a row. The Bills have fallen so low that the thought of them stringing wins together seems like an impossibility these days. The game at Jacksonville is a toss up to me, I think we beat Miami at home, and then lose @ Pats.

Draft best available qb with their first round pick. Until you have a solid qb in this league you've got nothing. Throw the new rookie qb in a battle with ej...best man wins the job. With the new rookie wage scale there's no reason teams with bad qb's shouldn't be drafting qbs early and often until they find a guy they can move forward with.

I'm in full numb mode right now. Watching the Bills has been the most boring 3 hours of my week these past 2 weeks. Total frustration. Let's hope the Bills don't let their biggest mistake of the 2013 draft (EJ Manuel), doesn't cause them to make another big mistake in the 2014 draft (drafting a top signal caller in the 1st round). You are nothing in the NFL until you solidify the QB position. It's not worth building your team in any other area until you know you have your guy under center. Does anybody think EJ is the right guy? Let's try again in 2014, and see if we can get it right this time. Please God.

1 interception, 1 fumble recovery, 1 sack. Not a bad day at the office for David today, granted it was versus our pathetic excuse of an offense.

For those of you not too familiar with the Bucs, make sure to keep an eye on #54 of the Bucs tomorrow. A young stud of a LB. Really loved him coming into the 2012 draft and had my fingers crossed the Bills would get him. We ended up taking Cordy Glenn, so I'm not complaining........but when all is said and done David is and will be a much better player than Gilmore who we took in the 1st round that year.

You kidding me? Everything is going just as planned for Mr. Russ Brandon. Another losing, non-playoff year in Buffalo, and another offseason promotion and title change for Russ Brandon. Can you think of any other person in the corporate world who has climbed the career ladder higher for an organization that has consistently under-performed than Mr. Russ Brandon? Based on the way the Bills do things, he'll get a pay raise and another title promotion because we sucked for a 14th straight season.

If you were to just listen to the local media and the Bills coaches you would think Gilmore was a great to amazing CB. Turn on the t.v. and watch his games and you see a below average CB. A CB who has bad hands, is a penalty machine, and can't break down in space. Super unimpressed by Gilmore. I forgot to add injury prone as he just gets injured in this game.

Our own Ross Tucker wrote a great article detailing why these new OT rules suck. I whole heartedly agree: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-11-26/packers-vikings-tie-overtime-rules-ross-tucker Another point not made in the article: NFL declares that it's not fair if the first team gets the ball and kicks a FG to win the game. But if the first team scores a FG, the opposing team matches with a FG of their own, now the first team gets the ball for a second time and kicks a FG again to win. Couldn't the second team still argue that the other team had 2 opportunities and they only had one? That was always my main complaint about the new rule. If you're so concerned about equal chances, go win the damn game in regulation or play some damn defense in OT and get the ball back. After all defense is just as much a part of the game as offense right.

Pats didn't get lucky. Moreso the Broncos did absolutely nothing offensively the entire game. They tucked away up 24-0 and tried to squat on a lead. When pressed back into action they couldn't make a play in the pass game. This game was a perfecgt example of why the Broncos won't win the SB this year despite being favorites to do so. Manning can not play in adverse conditions, and its obvious his arm talent is no where near where it used to be. Tack on the fact they have a very leaky defense, especially in the secondary....and I just don't see a team that can reach the SB.

Assuming each team has an equal chance of making the playoffs each and every year, your chance is 12/32 or 37.5%. Therefore your chance of not making the playoffs is 62.5%. If you multiply .625 by .625 and do that 14 times in a row you arrive at the statistic of 0.22%. Because the NFL has a salary cap and all teams have equal access to resources, players and coaches, there are no excuses for NFL teams that they are not on a level playing field. The NFL salary cap has defined "level playing field". To put 0.22% into perspective......it means that a team should experience a playoff drought like the one we're experiencing (14 straight years with not 1 appearance) once every 455 years. Considering the Bills have been around for only 54 years we're about 401 years ahead of schedule on this pitiful drought!

I first want to preface my question by stating that I understand he's injured, and he's still working his way back to 100%. I also understand that he has a club on his hand and probably isn't playing with 100% confidence right now. With all that said, I haven't been overly impressed with his full body of work. Now I'm not saying I see Justin Rogers out there when I'm watching Gilmore, but what I've seen this season and last season is mostly an average CB. I'm hoping the hype that surrounded him this offseason starts to rear its head, but to this point I'm just not seeing it. I wanted to get the thoughts of others on this board who really know this team in and out, like most of us do. I think he gets caught staring into the backfield too often and gives up too many plays behind him. The bomb he gave up to Mike Wallace down the sideline to setup the Phins TD just before the half was unacceptable. A terrible play that a CB can NOT give up in that situation, club or no club on your hand.

If the queen had balls she'd be king.

+12.5 dogs next week @ New Orleans. Next weeks game is the type of game I'd give the Bills of the last 14 years absolutely no chance to win. I still don't expect to win, but we'll see if Marrone and co. can at least make it competitive. This games got 34-17 written all over it though.

Agreed it was bad. Chris Hogan sucks, and can't catch. Shouldn't have been in there at that point. As soon as they punted, the game was over. Giving up 30 yards on the punt return was just a Buffalo Bill exclamation point. Good point. Serious question: How many play fakes have we run this year? I don't remember many.