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A Packer fan tries to rationalize the trade: ESPN Packer Msg Board What games was he watching?! There are posters here who do the same thing - de-value players if moves aren't made and offer blind praise when moves are made, although, the almost unanimous Kelsay bashing is refreshing.

I thought all along the Bills were holding out for fair compensation. There's no RB SEA could've drafted in the 4th next year, that would've had the impact/talent of Lynch. If they wanted Marshawn so badly, as they have stated, then they would've had to separate from a 2nd round pick if I were GM. It made absolutely no sense to hold onto Lynch this long and then succumb to throwing him away for a 4th round pick.

Kelsay got lit up by Cooper (Jets fullback) on one occasion and got regularly OWNED by the Jets backup tight end. He just couldn't fight off the block of the tight end. Running game, passing game, it didn't matter, he was just physically overmatched - against a BACKUP TIGHT END!! But hey, we have him for 4 more years at $6M a pop..

Seems like an eternity since teams were celebrating TDs in organized fashion - the Saints doing the leapfrog immediately comes to mind. The NFL didn't like these organized celebrations, so they were banned. Then, players began to use props - TO's sharpie, Horn's cell phone, and the NFL didn't like this, so the props were also banned. Now, in individual celebrations, players aren't even allowed to act in any demonstrative way, aside from fist pumps, or giving hugs. An age old celebration of spiking the ball was also banned (which is ridiculous). The props and organized celebrations I can understand, but allow players to have some sort of personality on the field. If Steve J. wanted to celebrate his TD in a creative, non-damaging/non-disrespectful way, then allow him to do so! The game is much different than the others, because players have to play behind helmets. Allow them to retain their individuality on the field. Goodell runs the NFL like a military unit. No personalities are allowed.

After thinking about this, the only way I can rationalize the extension (and it makes very little sense, I know) is that they gave Chris Kelsay all of that $$$ as a F*** YOU to Aaron Schobel, who left the Bills and tried to milk more money out of the Texans. Schobel was by far the better player and knew he was the better player, so I can see him envying Kelsay's new contract. Of course, you don't run a business by making personnel moves in the interest of shoving those moves in former player's faces, so I really have no idea why this slow, non-instinctual, horrible DE/OLB, was re-signed.

Kelsay was granted an extension, because he is a great locker room influence. He's the consummate professional, who always gives 100% effort in practice, as well as the games. Okay, let me stop BS'ing.. This move is confusing, irritating, and frustrating. Chris Kelsay at his position is the equivalent to what Trent Edwards was at his. He is arguably the slowest LB on the entire squad! Which is saying A LOT, considering all of the LBs run as if they have cleats made of lead. Getting a faster front 7 is the top priority in turning the defensive performance around. A backwards move was made today. The only news that would've been worse, would've been the following: "after only two games this year, Trent Edwards has agreed to a contract extension, believed to be in the neighborhood of 6 years and $72M with $43M guaranteed."

My favorite repetitive line: "I'm going to do whatever I can to help this team win." Yes Trent, because you are a winner. You know exactly how to win in the NFL.

If I were taking over as GM of the Bills, I may not make these cuts tomorrow, but they would be made prior to the start of the next season (whether that's in 2011 or 2012): Chris Kelsay - physically limited, doesn't fit the scheme, getting up there in age. Cornell Green - physically and mentally limited, old in NFL years. John McCargo - former 1st round pick who has failed to reach any of his potential. Akin Ayodele - a stop gap player who was signed, due to injuries at the LB position. Reggie Torbor - a stop gap player who was signed, due to injuries at the LB position. The defensive front seven of this team, may be a weaker unit than the OL! Quite possibly, the slowest DEs & LBs in the league. If the defense is looking for an upgrade, start at a position in the front seven - any position. No player strikes fear into opposing offenses, so no player has to be accounted for at the LOS. The only defender I wouldn't replace, is Kyle Williams. Everyone else is expendable. We are only a DE, ROLB, LOLB, QB, WR, C, and RT, away from being a playoff caliber team.

That's funny, cause I did too. When I got the txt saying that Edwards had been cut, I IMMEDIATELY thought, "ok.. the next to go is Kelsay." It's incomprehensible that he's getting a $24M extension. I'll believe it if/when it happens.

I'd LOVE for the Bills to play against TrINT Backwards. It would be a fun, defensive performance.

That settles it, Kelsay has nudie pics of Wilson. Anybody watching the game can clearly see that he's clearly overmatched, at a position in which he does not fit. Kelsay isn't even a good 4-3 DE and he's a MUCH worse 3-4 OLB. Athleticism is one thing this team needs to improve upon and if they are truly resigning this slow, unproductive OLB, then this team has more issues than most of us know.

Actually, I had brought this up almost a year ago, saying that we needed to hold a public apology on the field, for Flutie, if we hoped to return to the playoffs. I know that I never heard any mention of a Flutie curse when I first brought it up, so if you had never read my post, then maybe we're just thinking on the same wavelength. Does anyone know Doug Flutie?

All of that was from memory, so you'll have to excuse my precision, or lack thereof. Going back and actually looking up the stats, Rodgers went #24 and Ware was selected #11. Point remains, Aaron Rodgers would have fallen to our pick and Green Bay most likely would've selected Losman the year prior (which was why we were determined to move ahead of them). This organization's best bet is to stand pat. Screw moving up and sacrificing 2nd and 3rd round picks to do so!!

Actually, that was the year where the hot debate was Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers. The 49ers decided to choose Smith and Rodgers proceeded to fall and fall and fall in the draft; all the way to pick #22. Now this is what makes his fall disappointing to the Bills: That year, we would've been in position to draft Aaron Rodgers around pick #13 (DAL - Demarcus Ware), but traded that first round pick the previous year (along with a 2nd that year and a 3rd the next) to move back into the first round for JP Losman. At draft time, this organization shoots itself in the foot, more times than one can count. Here are a few other reminders - Whitner over Ngata at #8, sacrificing a 2nd round pick to move back into the first round to select John McCargo, sacrificing a high 3rd rounder to move up about 8 slots in the 2nd round to select Poz, selecting McKelvin, instead of re-signing Jabari Greer and drafting all pro LT Ryan Clady, selecting Maybin over Orakpo/Cushing/Matthews/Oher, selecting Trent Edwards in the 3rd and James Hardy in the 2nd. Scary when one considers that this ineptitude comprises JUST the last few years!

I proposed this a while ago. Flutie is actually a witch doctor from Mozambique and unless we make it right by him, i.e. apologizing, we'll have to wait his full 15 year sentence of not making the playoffs. Until those years are up, we'll continue to draft the incorrect players, make the wrong FA choices, and dwell in mediocrity.

You're right, they probably didn't look at his previous three years and 30+ starts worth of tape. If they did, there's no way he would've been favored from the start.

Yet another fat guy who got his money and lost his hunger. Everyone plays hard for and wants that big pay day. The players who care, the ones who want to leave behind a legacy, continue to strive to get better..

I don't recall anyone here anointing Brohm as a savior, or the QB of the future. Everyone has acknowledged that he would struggle as a starter. The difference is, he has room to grow and improve. The prior starter has had over 3 years of playing experience at the NFL level and has FAILED to improve. That is fact. Somehow, this fact made its way past Chan Gailey. Actually, I believe Gailey was arrogant enough to think that he could make Trent into a serviceable QB. The argument was such: rather than seeing a veteran continue to fail, why not bring in the young guy, who has at one point enjoyed a level of success (10,000+ yds and 70 TDs at Louisville). I understand that you dislike Brohm as a player, but you have absolutely no reason to hate him just yet. He has not proven to play "Trentative" on the field..

Fixed.

Is that not what we're doing already?

Hahaha.. fair enough.

I HATE when people dig up these posts.. It throws the optimism of the season right back in your face. Notice however, you won't find any posts from me declaring a successful season. When Chan announced Trent the starter, I waited quietly for him to fail and boy has he ever.

So far, there has only been one opposed to him starting - Throwit. Throwit's weak argument was countered. Where are the rest who believe that Brohm shouldn't be handed the keys? Let's hear from you..

He has a lot on his plate: HC, OC, no QB, and no OL.

You want to go where?! NO!! I will not throw you to the WRs!! I'll never give you up!! I'll NEVER GIVE YOU UP!! LEE CAN'T HAVE YOU!