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I say why the hell not? I'm here at 2 and the teams that don't have slots aren't until much later in the draft. We'll have to wait on GM's as it is. This thing could take days.

I'm just speaking my mind. If the guy running it wants to do off the wall moves, that's cool. I'm not in charge. I just wish someone would hurry up and take those two teams left over so we could get started.

It's the same guy though. Draconator traded to himself.

That's what i'm saying! I put Jerry Porter as part of my deal to Houston simply because it makes sense. He's unhappy in Oakland, Houston could use some more firepower, and I made him worth very little (the trade was the #1 pick for Oakland's #6, Oakland's 3rd, and Jerry Porter). Not only would the LT to New Orleans for #1 NEVER happen because San Diego wouldn't be looking to deal him, but I don't think an RB (even of LT's calibur) is going to get you the #1 pick.

I will most DEFINITELY give you that. Jauron > Mularkey. But a severed cod's head > Mularkey. I'm dealing with it now. It could be a lot worse I guess. But it sure could have been better.

According to whom? beerme1? Well then I guess we have a qualified coach if beerme1 says so.

What the hell? San Diego trades LT to the Saints for the #1 pick? This is realistic.

Why? We could have had him in the 2nd if we wanted to. We went with J.P. in the 1st. I don't think Schaub has looked amazing and we still don't know what we have in J.P.

After JUST acquiring the #1 overall pick from the Houston Texans, i'm trading it. I wanted to pick one of two players for the Raiders. So dropping to two and picking up a 2nd is a good deal for me. So: New Orleans gets the #1 pick overall from Oakland (from Houston) Oakland recieves the #2 overall pick from New Orleans and New Orleans 2nd round pick

Aw hell, since it's taking so long i'll take on a 3rd team if neccessary. Put me at the Giants pick #25.

Keep Vincent, Milloy, Adams, and Big Mike. I say we release Mike and then re-sign him ala Troy Brown or Peter Boulware for much less money. London Fletcher shouldn't even be mentioned. He was one of the only bright spots last year. If McGahee becomes a problem, he should be replaced. Especially if DeAngelo Williams is available. Let Moulds go and franchise Nate. That wasn't so hard.

I'll also take the 49er's.

Did you guys not see where I said i'd rather have Ngata?! The post is simply stating that I think Vince may be there when we pick. Not once did I say we should take him. As a matter of fact, I said quite the opposite. If anything is implied it's that I could see Marv making the move. It's gotten to the point where all anyone has to do is say "Vince Young" and people will jump to assumptions that the post is about drafting him.

The closer we get to the draft, the stronger the feeling gets. The feeling that Vince Young will fall. Now i'm not talking like Aaron Rodgers fall or even Ben Roethlisberger fall. But i'm starting to feel he'll be available when we pick. After last night's Senior Bowl and the weeks practices, here's how i'm seeing it shaping up: 1.) Houston - Reggie Bush 2.) New Orleans - Matt Leinart 3.) Tennessee - Jay Cutler 4.) New York - D'Brickashaw Ferguson 5.) Green Bay - Mario Williams 6.) Oakland - A.J. Hawk 7.) San Francisco - DeAngelo Williams From what I understand, Norm Chow is REALLY high on Cutler. Especially after working with him all week. He coached Leinart and college and "reportedly" thinks Cutler would have been better with Leinart's targets. On top of all of this, Cutler provides a more stable selection at the QB position. We all know what Young is capable of. But I think the closer we get to the draft, the more people are going to realize that teams are afraid of picking Young. I think all of these people who are saying he's a top-3 pick are just clueless media members who are in love with him and his hype. If he isn't picked by either New Orleans or Tennessee, he's going to fall. There's absolutely no way the Jets will take him. Especially not after the way the Brick looked this week. He's exactly what they want or need. It's either going to be the Brick or DeAngelo who helped his cause TREMENDOUSLY this week. From there the only team who would take him is Oakland. Green Bay isn't going to spend their pick on a QB when they picked one just last year. And San Fran spent the #1 pick overall on a QB last year as well. And the rumors are flying that Daunte is going to reunite with Randy in Oakland. All in all, after last night this is how I see things coming together. I'm not saying we take Vince. I'm just saying that i'm starting to think he'll be there. And I wouldn't be surprised if he was the pick if he was there. Although, i'd rather have Ngata.

I'll take them damn Raiders.

Just say....... NOOOOOOO!!!!! By the way, it's Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon. Or D'Brickashaw Ferguson (1) or Mario Williams (1a) if one of them drops. If all 3 are unavailable, Michael Huff, CB/S Texas; Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech; Tambla Hali, DE Penn State; Vernon Davis, TE Maryland; or the shockers: Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt or DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis

This is pretty dumb if you ask me. I was stoked that we offered the job to Bates. But when he rejected it, I was sure we were going to go after Donnie Henderson or Ted Cotrell. But Johnnie Lynn and Perry Fewell? Mike Singeltary may not want to leave San Fran. But after watching him coach in the Senior Bowl, a lot of people seem to think he has HC potential. Not to mention the respect he would obviously have from our players. Why not interview him? Henderson and Cotrell are widely respected, skilled, and available with experience. And contrary to popular belief, Cotrell didn't screw up in New York and Minnesota. As a matter of fact, he turned the Vikes D around. They were much worse before he arrived. Steve Fairchild is acceptable. Dick Jauron is acceptable. But I want a DC that everyone has faith in. Not some reject DB's coach.

Did you read the whole post? I'm listing guys you pick at 8 if Ferguson, Williams, Hawk, and Ngata are gone and we CAN'T trade down. So you're saying we should take Brodrick Bunkley or Claude Wroten at 8? Both may slip to the late-1st/early-2nd. Yes, I know the Cinci-Jones story. But it wasn't anywhere's near as bad as that. And don't even talk to me about Eric Winston or Winston Justice at 8.

I have to agree with you. That's why Tambla Hali is #1 on my board then. But with Jimmy Williams' character issues and Michael Huff immediately throwing Vincent or Milloy to the fire (which i'm not ready to do), we're looking at a guy like Vernon Davis at TE. Honestly, I think DeAngelo Williams is going to be something spectacular! If we were put in this nightmarish situation, the idea of having Willis McGahee AND DeAngelo Williams in the same backfield would be too good to pass on. Especially with Fairchild's history of using both Steve Jackson and Marshall Faulk and Willis' history of not playing every down. So will I. But use your head. Who are we going to draft? Winston Justice? Eric Winston? Marcus McNeill? Brodrick Bunkley? Almost all of those guys is going to go at around 20. I'd rather have someone whose worth taking at another position and address the line's in 2 & 3 and then HEAVILY in FA.

In a post elsewhere, i've been talking about a scenario that's been a nightmare in the back of my mind. It may have been discussed before as well. This nightmare if you will, is not so far fetched. It's a definite possibility and it plays out like this: 1.) Houston - Reggie Bush 2.) New Orleans - Matt Leinart 3.) Tennessee - Vince Young 4.) New York - D'Brickashaw Ferguson 5.) Green Bay - A.J. Hawk 6.) San Francisco - Mario Williams 7.) Oakland - Haloti Ngata So now what? Obviously, try and trade down. The crop that's around now as far as DT and OT go are nowhere's NEAR worth picking at #8. But what if we can't trade down? Then we're stuck at 8 looking outside the box. Here's how my board would stand: 1.) Tambla Hali, DE Penn State 2.) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 3.) Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 4.) Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 5.) Michael Huff, S Texas 6.) Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio State 7.) Lendale White, RB USC 8.) Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College 9.) Chad Greenway, LB Iowa 10.) Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt Another RB? DeAngelo Williams might be too good to pass on. Especially if they feel WM needs another guy with him.

No way does New York take Mario Williams over D'Brickashaw Ferguson.

No way do we draft Winston at 8. He's projected late-1st, maybe early 2nd. I don't even think he's the THIRD best OT. I'd have to put Winston Justice, Marcus McNeill, and maybe even Jonathan Scott ahead of him. Not with the way I saw him play in BC's bowl game and the way he's been being "pwned" at Senior Bowl practices. Kambla Hali would be the next best DE. And with the way Manny Lawson has been beasting it, he might jump ahead of Mathias as well.

I agree. But my nightmare scenario is the following draft, with no trade down partner: 1.) Houston - Reggie Bush, RB USC 2.) New Orleans - Matt Leinart, QB USC 3.) Tennessee - Vince Young, QB Texas 4.) New York Jets - D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia 5.) Green Bay - A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State 6.) San Francisco - Mario Williams, DE N.C. State 7.) Oakland - Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon If Williams, Ngata, and Ferguson are off the board; there isn't another DT or OT worth taking at #8. Some could argue Tambla Hali may be worth #8, but I think that would be a tad of a stretch (anyone else would be a MAJOR stretch). If there's no market for a trade, what would we do?

After watching some practices, I agree completely about Kiwanuka. Although, I disgree about White. I've also edited my board accordingly.

I think you might have read the post wrong. He's stating that maybe the Jets will pass on D'Brickashaw Ferguson for Jay Cutler. Thus allowing the Brick to fall to us.