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So the thing with that is - can it be structured in such a way that it can be just as easily gotten out of next season? Joe calls it a "non guaranteed extension". Meaning what exactly? That we're able to come up with some savings this year with the ability to cut him next season if it doesn't work without more of a penalty? If there's a way we can save more by keeping him this season with the ability to still let him go without more of a penalty next season if he doesn't return to form - I'd listen to that. It just worries me that the experts say our out is this offseason. And considering we are set at our starting positions, are going to extend Douglas, and the cost of what Tre's set to make is WAAAYYYY more than you want to pay for a 3rd Outside CB (let alone one coming off a 2nd major injury) - it seems obvious to me we can't have anything close to Tre's numbers on our books. As for what's beyond Douglas and Benford on the Outside, I expect Dane to be back. They like him a lot and I don't see anyone beating down the door to steal him away. And Kaiir has shown flashes and was injured last year. When he stepped in against Pittsburgh in the Playoffs, he had a bad penalty but then had a huge pick and played well the rest of the game. When it comes to Backup CB's - Dane and Kaiir are about as good as you can ask for. Teams don't carry 3 starting Calibur CB's. Some teams don't even have 2. And with the way the roster is at other positions, it seems silly to be so loaded at one spot when there's spots on this team where we have holes at starter and at depth behind that.

The thing that makes me laugh is that you constantly hear things like: "We allocate too much to Defense" "We need to cut players on Defense and focus on Offense" "(x player) is going to be toast following (x injury) - we need to cut bait" "Cut whoever can get us cap space" But then we have a situation like Tre - coming off two serious injuries, has an out in their contract, at a position where we have more players than we even need and it's like: "Whoa! Not him though!"

First thing I see when I Google him: https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/lions-safety-still-confident-cocky

I like that you waited until Round 4 before doubling down. PFN's ranking of Franklin is way off though. Every other simulator and mock has it 50/50 he's even on the board at 28. If he's on the board at 56 in reality, something catastrophic has happened in the Pre-Draft process. I'd love Franklin and Sweat Round 1 and Round 2 though. It's ideal. I'm down on the idea of Drafting 3 WR's though. That would make 4 of our 6 WR's having a combined zero reps of Regular Season experience. It could go great, or it could go terribly. I think there's little to no chance they don't bring in a mid tier vet in FA, whether anyone likes that idea or not. 2/3 of our WR's being Rookies (or essentially a Rookie in Shorter's case) seems too risky for how carefully this regime operates, IMO.

Calling a 29 year old CB, who never fully returned to form in any consistent manner following a torn ACL and then tore his Achilles, "in his prime"... is a bit of a stretch. We haven't seen "in his prime" Tre White since November of 2021. If he were in his prime, we wouldn't trade him and we wouldn't have given up a Day 2 pick for Rasul Douglas. Now we won't trade him because no one in their right mind would take on the contract he's under in the shape he's in, in the first place - let alone give up Draft compensation to do it.

I keep seeing "pay cut" or restructure for Tre White. Do you have any idea the kind of pay cut he would have to take for keeping him to make sense? It would be an insulting amount. We're talking about a guy that if he were on the market now would have to take an incentive laden prove it deal. He never returned to consistent form from his ACL and then tore an Achilles. His role would be a guy coming off the bench and mixing in, hoping he can get back up to speed. He's on a 16.44m cap hit this season and a 16.67m cap hit next season for that role. And unlike some other players that we can't get out from under right now, Tre White's out in that massive contract is THIS offseason. When we gave up a 3rd for Douglas, it was pretty clear to me then that he wasn't only the Tre White replacement for just last year. In Douglas, Benford, Johnson, and Elam - we have our 3 starters and a 1st Round Pick coming off the bench in relief. Douglas and Johnson will be extended and Benford has been getting better and better. He's the present and the future of the CB position and you don't want to mess with that development. I just don't see a restructure or pay cut that makes sense for both sides. Save for White being okay with going from one of the top paid CB's in Football to being paid reserve money. We're not going to extend Douglas to put him on the bench and we're not going to stunt Benford's development by sticking him on the bench either. And we don't want that much money tied up into the CB position, especially for the role he'd have and being at best, a MASSIVE question mark. In the position we're in, we have to come up with cap space anywhere we can. There's only a handful of players who have outs in their deals this offseason. Tre is the easiest decision amongst them, if you remove emotion from the equation. We're set at CB without him. His replacement is already in house. The only reason to not move on is it would be sad to and fans are in their feels about it. And that's simply not a valid reason when it comes to Business.

If you don't have a solid Starter, Rounds 2 & 3 are the way to go. You don't want to spend a lot of money on the RB position or use a 1st. We went with Singletary in Round 3 in 2019. He didn't wow us his Rookie season. So when Moss fell the following year and was good value, we figured between the two of them - we're going to be completely set. One of them was bound to develop into a stud. Unfortunately, Moss impressed even less. We gave it the years of 2020 and 2021 hoping at least one of Singletary and Moss would step up. But neither surpassed being anything but average to halfway decent. So we traded down in Round 2 of 2022 a couple times, picked up some more picks to mitigate the cost of trying again and picked up James Cook. Luckily, it seems we've finally hit on one. Now that we have, you're just looking for a change of pace back. Preferably a Bruiser. That's not a role you spend anything higher than Round 4 on. Preferably, Round 5.

I'm perplexed by the amount of Day 2 RB picks you've been making. I'm not against Drafting a RB. But I'm against spending Day 1 or Day 2 picks on a devalued position, when we have a Top 5, Pro Bowl Back in house as our Starter already. You don't spend a 2nd Round Pick on a 2nd RB.

I don't think it is. There's been enough signs on field that Elam could just be a late bloomer who's had injury issues and a slower than expected transition to McDermott's Defense. He has the skills and work ethic to possibly turn things around like Epenesa. Burks? He's done nothing to suggest that his poor Pre-Draft tests were anything but accurate. And he has a terrible drop rate on top of it. We shouldn't use a WR roster spot on a less than likely reclamation project. Let alone give up a player who would be the first off the bench at CB to do so.

Yikes! That is ugly! That's literally the opposite of Beane's M.O. in early rounds. He'd rather take a guy who looks average on film but has great test results and physical traits than a guy who looks good in College but tests terribly. He doesn't chance that until the mid to late rounds. Terrel Bernard is probably the highest example of that but even he was a late 3rd Rounder.

The thing about 1st Round QB "busts" is that they at least have traits or tools that made them a First Rounder. Blaine has stuck around the league for so long as a Backup QB because he at least brings something meaningful to the table. You aren't still playing at 34 if you provide absolutely nothing. As I said, when it comes to Backup QB's, if they're good - they'll either be starting or on a team that has a questionable QB situation. There isn't even 32 good starters in the NFL. Anyone we get to play Backup QB here isn't going to inspire anyone.

Mac Jones isn't going to be outright cut. They don't save anything by releasing him. If they don't get any offers for him, they'll keep him and he'll be a FA after this season. We're not paying 5m for 1 year on a backup QB period. Let alone giving up a pick to do so. No one's doing that unless they think it's possible they might be able to get something more out of him with a change of scenery, with the potential to start in the future. Even if he *were* to be outright cut (won't happen, but for arguments sake let's go with it) - he'd go somewhere with a questionable QB situation that would give him at least the chance to see the field. Long story short, Mac Jones isn't happening any way you slice it.

Spoiler alert: anyone we end up signing at Backup QB "sucks" If you're a decent to good QB on the market - you're either starting, going to a team as a Bridge QB or insurance to a young QB who's developing, going to a team that has a questionable starter, or going to a team with a QB who has injury issues. Having a QB that is unquestioned and *knock on wood* never comes off the field, our options are going to be... not so great.

Is it on Netflix? That would be weird. It's an ESPN documentary that airs on ESPN+ and Disney+ (being ESPN's parent company).

Damn. This really sucks. Terrible. And it will probably make cities and teams re-think doing these in the future. Would really suck to finally win one and there's no parade because of a couple psychos in KC.

For Troy Franklin fans - he's documenting his Pre-Draft process on his YouTube channel VillageBoyTroy. Here's the first four episodes:

While I agree that WR is the way to go, I don't think this assessment is correct. For example, in the 2022 Draft, Treylon Burks was drafted by Tennessee at 18. Jermaine Johnson was drafted by New York at 26 and George Karlaftis was drafted by Kansas City at 32. Both of them performed well immediately while Burks has been a disappointment. Any position can hit immediately or bust depending on the player.

Reminds me of an experience I had when I was 16. Two absolutely hammered guys were shoving each other back and forth. One of them got shoved into a woman who had a baby strapped to her chest in a carrier, right in front of me. She barely kept her balance and the baby started crying. I was mortified and said "hey, watch it dude, you almost took out that woman and her baby" before I even realized it. The guy, rather than apologizing to the woman walked up to me, grabbed me by the front of my shirt, pulled me in, and said "do you want me to put you in the f-cking ground right here and now you little sh-t?!". Again, I was 16. This dude was like 40. The lady threatened to bring a cop over and one of his more sober friends came and took him out of there before he did anything more. I'll never forget it. Haven't been back to a lot of games since and that was 25 years ago.

Von Miller will return much closer to his pre-injury form than the form we saw last season. We would have won the Super Bowl save for catastrophic injuries and leaders not returning to form from the year before. Even with McDermott. Tre'Davious White should be released. Jordan Poyer will stick for one more season. Nyheim Hines will be on the 53 Week 1. We shouldn't take a 2nd WR in the Draft until Round 4.

In a vacuum, it's WR first. We need a starter there and difference makers at that position will be out of our price range in FA or Trade. But it really depends on how the board falls and what we've been able to do in FA. If we aren't able to address DT (need a starter and 3 more for rotation and depth) or DE (need a guy you feel comfortable starting as we can't strictly rely on Von), there's a guy who's sticking out at one of those positions, and the guys we absolutely love at WR are gone and there's a group of guys they like that are similarly graded - maybe we wait. But if that's the case and they do go D-Line in Round 1 - then he needs to trade up from 60 to secure one of the WR's he likes before there's another drop off talent wise. Absolutely cannot afford to wait until 60 and hope someone falls in their lap.

I like Legette quite a bit. Tall, fast, big body. Good routes, good hands. I think he's being overlooked a bit right now and think he's someone who is going to rise in the Pre-Draft process.

3 of the first 4 picks at WR alone is absolutely not happening. As it is, the 2nd WR taken will be getting minimal targets with Diggs, Franklin, Shakir, and Kincaid ahead of them in the pecking order as is. A 3rd one would mean one of the picks would barely see the field, if they even dress at all. You're not going to spend 3rd & 4th picks for those roles, with the amount of holes we have to fill and the depth of the class at WR. We have to address holes we have at DT (of which we have to find a starter and 3 more rotational guys), DE (a guy who can start, as we can't rely on Miller without insurance, and a rotational rusher), and Safety (1, possibly 2 starters, if we let go of Poyer). We're not going to be able to do all of that in Free Agency and 1 pick at those spots before Round 5 is not enough.

I haven't looked at him yet. Just kind of starting and haven't really gone in depth beyond some of the bigger names. Really liked what I saw from Troy Franklin, Xavier Legette, and Keon Coleman. They kind of jumped off the screen to me. I'd say at 6'7", it would really come down to how he tests at the Combine and Pro Day. Most guys THAT big are giving up some speed and athletic ability. If he were to test really well, he'll climb. If he tests average or below, quite possible that he falls to the end of Round 3 or later, given the depth of the class. Another thing we have to take into account with these guys is how they look on video is great. But if they don't interview well and don't show a love of the game, a desire to be great, an understanding of what they need to improve on, a high intellect for the game and position, and appear coachable - what they've done won't matter to this regime. Those things weigh just as heavy as what they see on the video, maybe even more. And we won't know who's impressed them there and who didn't. Kelvin Benjamin could make Beane less into the idea though. He saw first hand how a really big WR can backfire. Especially if their fire is lacking. I'd also say that everyone who says he loved him is projecting. He was just the Assistant GM, not the guy who picked him. It would be like saying Brian Gaine had to have loved everyone Beane took last year.

I just started really diving into the WR's. This is a much better class than last year's and way deeper. Some of the guys who will be available later probably would have cost a full Round higher in another year. All the more reason to wait until our 4th pick for a double dip. Anyone who is considered a Slot WR at the Pro Level though - I'm not interested in, outside of a late round flyer. In Khalil Shakir and Dalton Kincaid, we already have two guys who work out of the slot that I want on the field as much as possible. Last season, all we had was slot WR's as depth. To the point where when Davis went down, we had no choice but to put Sherfield, Harty, or Shakir out wide. Stick to Tall, Fast, and Strong guys.

A lip reader translated what he said. I'm guessing he was sat down for being too amped up. "Keep me in you f-cker! I'm calm now!" Helluva way to show you've calmed down 😆 https://www.ladbible.com/news/sport/lip-reader-reveals-what-travis-kelce-said-coach-827965-20240212?fbclid=IwAR3yxYaeHb-PVScqek8bS3fgEn9d615Cn6fhpac8YP21BoGEajenp_qnx0E