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Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
That's what it really comes down to. Another year where we're in better shape financially or we didn't have so many holes to fill, maybe 4-5m on Henry to pair with Cook wouldn't be a bad idea. But since we're in terrible shape with both, it's just not something we can afford to do. We're not in a position for luxury items like carrying two of the top 4 RB's in Rushing would be for what it would cost. The 4-5m ticket items (or more) will have to go to starting positions like WR, DE, DT, and S. -
Should the Bills trade up for their own “Julio Jones”
BillsFanForever19 replied to DJB's topic in The Stadium Wall
Not to mention trading up for Khalil Shakir and trading down for James Cook. -
Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
We're talking about the guy like he's toast and begging for a job. I'll say it again, regardless of everything that's said, he was still #2 in the league in Rushing last season. He's not completely fallen off like an Ezekiel Elliott or Dalvin Cook. Teams were willing to give up Draft Picks just to rent him for the Playoffs. And there's a difference between an affordable RB and affordable for Derrick Henry. We're in the 1-2 million range for the role we're looking for given who we already have there, our cap, and all of the bodies (including starters) we need to replace elsewhere. Instead of the 10.5m he's been on, he'll be more in the 5.5-6.5 range. A really good deal would be like 4.5m. Simply not going to do that for a change of pace back, especially in the shape we're in. And someone will offer him a role more than just change of pace. -
Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
I mean, he was still 2nd in the entire league in Rushing and had 1381 yards from scrimmage last season. It wasn't his 2020 or 2022 outings, but he's far from toast. Either way, he's out of the price range for the role he'd have on our team given our cap situation and the amount of starting positions and important depth players we have to replace. -
The NFLPA will file a grievance even in a losing battle. And his scenario, yes, he was on the Ski. But he was stationary filling up the tank. So there was some question as to whether the injury occurring while not riding and being a victim of someone hitting him really constituted as a breach of the contract.
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Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
Would it be nice to have 2023's 2nd & 4th Leading Rusher on the same team? Sure. It'd be nice to have Josh Allen at Defensive End too. We can play the game that a Superstar who hasn't fallen off (like Elliott did before he got 3m) isn't going to have a market just because he just turned 30. And that no one else who's a contender will be interested. And that we'll even put as much as 4m into a 2nd RB, with all the holes we have and the situation we're in cap wise. But none of that is based in reality. We'll probably be re-signing Johnson. And we'll probably Draft a young thumper on Day 3. And that will cost us less than a third of what Henry alone will cost. -
Diggs cryptic comments - 2024 edition
BillsFanForever19 replied to Einstein's topic in The Stadium Wall
Here we go. It's bad enough the media likes to make something out of nothing every year. Do we really need to do it here every year too? It's nothing. Same as last year. His contract isn't really tradable. Especially with how he played at the end of last year. Why would a team take that on if there's any concern he's falling off? As for what he said, I read it as nothing. I just took it as him looking at how things ended last season and the team being a mess roster wise and not taking for granted that he's safe. Reports are he's not unhappy or looking to move: https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/news-is-sean-mcdermott-hot-seat-insider-notes-bills-hc-s-future-stefon-diggs-speculation-seahawks-coaching-search?utm_source=www.sportskeeda.com&utm_medium=native&utm_campaign=ShareArticle -
Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
1 million for Ty or 5x that for Henry. Really a no brainer when you already have a Pro Bowl RB in house and we're in the mess we're in cap wise and roster wise. -
Doug Marrone out as Saints OL Coach
BillsFanForever19 replied to BCAS Baritone's topic in The Stadium Wall
Hope he saved his money from that change of ownership out he took in his contract from us. Thrilled he did it. Astonished the arrogant pr-ck really thought he was going to be a hot HC candidate. -
Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
Why not? He was the NFL's 2nd leading rusher last season. He hasn't fallen off a cliff. It really isn't conceivable. Like I said, Baltimore was ready to trade Draft picks for him last season. They had Gus Edwards and Justice Hill as their RB's and were picking Dalvin Cook off the trash heap. Edwards and Dobbins are FA's now too. If you think Baltimore won't be back around when it won't cost them Draft Picks, I've got a bridge to sell you. I think everyone's looking at just turned 30 and high milage and neglecting to notice he finished the year 2nd in Rushing Yards and another Pro Bowl season. He still looked like Derrick Henry last season. -
Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
You are aware that we're ~52m over the cap, with 22 Free Agents, including holes at Starting WR, DE, DT (of which we only have ONE DT under contract), and Safety (maybe both Safety spots if we move on from Poyer), right? Spending ~5m on a RB when we already have a Pro Bowler there is a luxury item we simply cannot afford. -
Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
Henry was still running relatively strong last season. Elliott was toast his last year in Dallas. Baltimore had a trade in place for him before the Titans owner nixed it. He's going to have way more offers than Elliott did and they aren't all going to be from non-contenders. And places like Baltimore will make him the guy. Not just a change of pace heavy. -
Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
Someone will overplay their hand and fall through the crack in that 2nd tier. That's actually where my head is at. Find a Leonard Floyd type at WR late that is left standing when musical chairs stop, Draft a WR Round 1, and another in like Round 4 or 5. -
Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
If Elliott got $3 in the condition he looked on the way out in Dallas, Henry will get at least 4.5-5. Maybe more from a team looking to sell Jerseys and Tickets for having a Superstar on their team. In the condition we're in, we're not going to allocate those kind of funds to a guy who will split carries with Cook. We didn't even do that last season, when Cook was a way bigger question mark than he is now and he we were in a (slightly) better condition cap wise. -
Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
Do you still want Hollywood Brown? Because we aren't going to be able to afford that and hand $5m per to Henry. And if we could, then best believe all 3 of the first picks would have to go to the starting position holes at DE, DT, and Safety. There's no scenario where we pay for Henry, Brown, and use 2 of the top 3 Draft Picks on WR. None. And why would Henry want to go to a team that already has a Pro Bowl RB on it? He'd be lucky to even get 50% of the carries here. -
Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
This isn't even a question. Ty Johnson was a Practice Squad player who came in because of injury. He overachieved, but people aren't going to back the brinks truck up for an RB2/RB3 former Practice Squad guy who's coming off a decent year in relief work. Derrick Henry on the other hand will sell jerseys and has a resume as the top RB in the NFL, even though he's getting older. In no planet is there a question as to whether or not Ty Johnson is going to remotely cost what Derrick Henry will. One RB is a superstar and one is a vet minimum type. -
Will Derrick Henry be a Bill in 2024?
BillsFanForever19 replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
He'll have a market. He's aging. You don't pay RB's big money. We don't have money. We have too many holes. We already have a Pro Bowl RB1. Should I go on? Bring back Ty Johnson. He'll be cheap. Pair him with Cook and Hines. Draft a RB late on Day 3. We're good there. Spend what little money we'll have finding starters at either WR, DE, DT, or S. -
Where did Spotrac say cutting him this offseason would be better than 2025? That doesn't make sense. His contract was written up as essentially a 3 year deal. Our out is after this season. I don't see any way we can get out from under him that would be remotely better for us to do this season. It's basically an impossibility where we're at cap wise. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/von-miller-7717/
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I think there's a number of things at factor there, beyond just the knee. Between the knee not responding as quickly as he was put on the field and then domestic/legal problems on top of it, he was mentally destroyed. One thing that I think was a major factor that doesn't get talked about is on top of that, getting sober. As someone who had issues myself, getting clean has a massive impact on your day to day for a while. You essentially have to re-teach yourself how to live from the ground up. Everything you did while using alcohol and substances as a crutch feels completely different and more difficult without it - both mentally and physically. Something as simple as brushing your teeth or making food feels hard. All the while, you battle the urge to not relapse and the feelings that come with that. All of those things came together at once and we saw the results. Hopefully, being motivated by being counted out by everyone, having time to rehab his knee further, more time to acclimate to sobriety, and getting the legal stuff behind him - we see something closer to 2022 Von next season.
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Yeah, Beane's MO is to move up a a few picks if there's someone there he likes and is afraid one of the teams ahead of him are going to select him. He got antsy with both Kaiir Elam and Dalton Kincaid. If he really likes one of the WR's that have fallen to that 24-27 range, he'll make a call to secure them. But he's not moving up any substantial jump. Fans need not even bother thinking about Harrison, Nabers, or Oduze. Any substantial move up's will occur in Rounds 2-7, more likely 3-7. The cost is just too great in Round 1 and we don't have the ammunition.
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Nabers or Oduze is a pipe dream. They're universally mocked in the Top 5-10 picks. Them falling would be one on the board at 12-15. The cost to move up even that high would be too great. He's not giving up two 1st's and teams knowing where we pick on a yearly basis, that wouldn't even be enough.
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Yeah, I think some are still operating under the assumption that the Edmunds compensatory that's coming is an extra 3rd. It's not. It just replaces the 3rd we already traded away. Moving up 10 picks with some extra picks on Day 3 isn't possible. Every year, fans talk about trading next year's picks. He hasn't done that and with our books the way they are, he can't really afford to.
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Yeah, we have a lot of picks this year. But we also have a lot of holes and not a lot of cash, once he digs us out of the hole we're in. He already gave up his extra 3rd for Rasul Douglas. So he's not going to give up anything more on Day 2. Day 3 picks aren't going to move us up more than a couple picks here or there. If someone falls to like 25 or something, we'll do a small move up like we did for Kaiir Elam and Dalton Kincaid. But moving up 10 picks, i'd doubt it.
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Josh's girl is in the MCU and took down the Kingpin. Big win. You think Taylor Swift is going toe to toe with Wilson Fisk? 😆
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Should the Bills trade up for their own “Julio Jones”
BillsFanForever19 replied to DJB's topic in The Stadium Wall
Considering he's never Drafted a WR before Round 4, of which Gabe Davis was the only 4th Rounder (everyone else was picked Round 5-7) - I don't know how you can make that assessment. Actually, considering that fact, landing guys like Davis, Khalil Shakir, Ray-Ray McCloud, and Isaiah Hodgins - who have become contributors here or around the league, I'd say his success rate is actually pretty good. Justin Shorter was red shirted last season so we don't know what he'll become yet. The only ones to fail were Marquez Stevenson (Late 6th) and Austin Proehl (Round 7). Going 4 of 6 on Day 3 Draft Picks, who are still on rosters with varying degrees of success is about as good as you can ask for. It's exceedingly rare to find a stud on Day 3.