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He's old, but he's still playing at a high level and it'd just be a 1 year deal so I'm not really worried about age. Just a 1 year stop gap to be an upgrade from Jordan Phillips.

I think they're hesitant to restructure Tre. We could get out from under his contract after this season if he were to not return to form or regress and they may want to leave that option open. But I'd agree to extending DaQuan and/or Ed to make things easier this year.

It doesn't seem like Arizona wants to pay anything more than they have to, which is one of the hold ups. This trade is a salary dump to them. It's the only reason they want to do it.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10069916-report-cardinals-broncos-waiting-for-leverage-in-deandre-hopkins-jerry-jeudy-trade It seems this isn't going to go away anytime soon. I know we all got excited and it seemed like "things were heating up". But reading the tea leaves today, it seems Arizona is in no hurry and is playing hardball. They could be waiting until after the Draft and trying to squeeze teams that missed out on WR's like Addison, JSN, and Johnson that need another solid WR for everything they can get.

It doesn't say a trade is out. It says no one is in right now. Which one could easily read as things were heating up, teams were calling, and Arizona countered with more than anyone was offering and no one is interested anymore at that price. It was said by Dan Fetes from WHAM13 Rochester in a video posted today that the sources he talked to said we were interested "for the right price". Which falls in line with that. Very easily we could be in a situation right now where we made an offer, they want more, and Beane is sticking to his guns - as is the rest of the league.

Exactly. Taking in all the info and thinking critically has been thrown by the wayside in favor of pure emotion of just wanting him here. Don't try saying all could be true or we don't know what's true and what isn't. And don't dare try to imply the flight to Arizona could be for the Owner's Meeting this weekend in Arizona.

As I said in an earlier post, all things can be true. Things could have been heating up. And since then, Arizona has asked for more than what's offered and everyone's out. You're free to believe what you want to believe. But this is a message board. If I make a point, I'm not going to freak out if someone responds with a counterpoint questioning the logic in it.

Exactly. He's just as reputable. And let's be honest - neither is a Schefter, Rappaport, Florio, Glazer, etc. And it's always possible that both are right. That Wilson was correct when he posted what he posted but since then Arizona has countered with things no one around the league is interested in. Take all info and analyze it. It just bothers me when fans get so worked up that they'll throw critical thinking out the window and will only listen to the things they want to hear and try and smear anything else simply because it's not what they want to hear.

I can't understand accepting the things you want to hear from one person being true and then discounting things you don't want to hear from someone else who's just as reputable as false. Aaron Wilson is a verified beat reporter for the Texans. Soren Petro is a verified beat reporter for the Chiefs. If you accept one as definitively true, you shouldn't discount the other as definitively false. I understand wanting this to happen. But fans need to look at things analytically instead of just emotionally.

In the video I posted from Dan Fetes a couple pages back, one thing that sticks out to me is that the people he talked to said that we're interested in DHop "For the Right Price" I hope I'm wrong. But that wording to me screams that the price right now doesn't fit. And Beane is the type of guy to set a price tag and stick to it. If that's the case, we have another Zach Ertz situation on our hands where AZ comes around to our price at some point, or it's not happening.

Can't speak for them, but I get the feeling he's talking in absolutes because he wants to make the flight to Arizona mean more than the obvious of what it truly is.

Just the feeling I get is that Arizona is asking too much. They want to do the move as a full salary dump and still want to get more than Houston got for Cooks along with it. I know everyone's all "damn the torpedos, do whatever it takes". But if this is true than no GM in the league is cool with taking on that contract or restructuring the deal to include 3 years of paying millions for a guy that won't be on the team to do it.

Do you know that for sure or are you just assuming that they go to every single one of their daughters tennis matches? As I said in an earlier post, this is a big weekend for the league and it's quite common that there are meetings before the meetings. Talking about issues and politicking policies that are going to be pitched. It's very likely that even if they are at most of her games, this would be a situation where business comes first.

I agree that this is most likely what it's for. Though the tea leave readers have argued that it can't be for that. The meeting is on the 26th. But owners and team officials offen arrive early to hang out, shoot the sh-t, and politic before the meetings. It's much more likely they'd be showing up a day or two early than flying in that very day and flying out.

From Dan Fetes of Channel 13 Rochester: He mentioned with the people he talked to is that the Bills are interested "for the right price" One thing he mentioned that does cause some concern is that this reminds him of Zach Ertz. Where he was also able to confirm fire to the smoke. He mentioned that Beane in that situation (and all situations) is a Hardball kind of player. He makes an offer and really never budges from his price. With Ertz, they wouldn't agree to Beane's price - so that was that. The longer this goes on, the more I fear we may be heading to Ertz territory. Wherein, yes, Beane is interested and made an offer. But that offer isn't changing and they either come around to Beane's price, or they don't.

Well it is the 24th - not exactly insane to think they flew down a couple days early.

... what? Like I like Gabe Davis and think fans are way too hard on him for a having a bad year while injured for a lot of it. But how is Gabe Davis on a one year contract plus a 5th getting us DeAndre Hopkins and a young 1st Round Linebacker?

Yes, I do. But who says this is going to be the same thing? Who's to say he stays healthy? Who's to say Mahomes or Kelce stays healthy? Who's to say that Diggs + OBJ (or a 1st Round Pick) + a top end TE in the Draft can't compare with Hopkins, Toney, and Kelce? I get not wanting him to come there and for him to play for us. But this attitude of "we're doomed" is just plain silly.

OBJ doesn't command double teams? Since when? And as has been pointed out, they've lost JuJu and Hardman. Saying that both being lost and getting Hopkins alone makes them all of a sudden unbeatable is underselling what both brought to the team. I get not wanting him to go to KC. But this idea that "we're doomed" if that happens is melodramatic.

Maybe DHop gets hurt. Or performs on a level comparable to what OBJ will with us. Maybe OBJ on the Bills outperforms Hopkins. Maybe we Draft someone like Quentin Johnson, Jordan Addison, or JSN who outperforms him. DHop is a name. A very good player. Would love to have him. But let's stop with the "if he goes to the Chiefs we are doomed" mentality. Anything can happen.

They've been working out together. This is common knowledge. When there's something worth reporting on, we'll all know.

And what has Ryan Talbot said? Nothing beyond wondering what the IG story meant.

That's all fine and good, but are we the leader of the pack?

DraftDiamonds reports on a lot of stuff that doesn't happen. I wouldn't look at him like Schefter or Rappaport. And ErieCountyBulls has 250 total followers. Reason to pay attention. Not a reason to feel we have confirmation.

He photographs players, but he's not officially with the team. Most likely an old picture too as he posted something similar yesterday.