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Kingsley Jonathan was signed to the roster after the year under a Futures contract. Glad to see him talked about. I have thought that he could make this team as the last Defensive End on the 53 if they decide to not pay Shaq and I don't think he'd bring any less than Epenesa or Basham has. Though I'm still hoping Shaq is brought back under an inexpensive deal.

Everything I've read said it's worth up to 4.6 with the base seemingly 3.

I'm surprised by the money. Must be a big market for DT's this year and/or there was some competition. He was injured a lot last season - but when he was healthy he was a force as a rotational D-Lineman. Hopefully he can stay healthy and make the price worth it. As it stands now, Ed Oliver, Daquan Jones, Jordan Phillips, and Tim Settle will all be Free Agents next year - which is our entire DT room. So i'd expect to see an extension or two soon.

Oh yeah, players often fly in on their own dime days early when the front office isn't in town to hang around town and wait for them.

And we just paid him 4 million in cash up front in the restructure. I know someone will say "that's not cap, so who cares?". But teams aren't generally in the business of handing someone 4 million dollars if they have even the slightest intention that they won't be in the plans. The idea of a 1st or 2nd Round RB this season went out the window when they paid Nyheim Hines and Damien Harris.

Yes and yes. For one, McDermott has only ever dressed 3 RB's on Game Day. 2 RB's and 1 RB/ST. So one between the Rookie, Cook, and Harris wouldn't dress unless there was an injury. Take a guy late round, sure. But a 4th RB when the team has holes (MLB & TE2), has positions that need upgrading (WR & OL), and more expensive positions (like DT) that will have multiple FA's after this year? No way. We just paid 4 million cash in a restructure to Hines (who we also spent a 5th round pick on less than 6 months ago) and he has a 2 million dead cap hit. We're not cutting him. We spent a 2nd Round pick on Cook less than a year ago. Now we're going to spend another 1st or 2nd on another RB? And we just signed Damien Harris less than a week ago to be their Thunder. If you need to replace Harris after this season or Cook doesn't continue to ascend, then you Draft a RB in 2024. But a 1 or a 2 on a RB in 2023 is MADNESS.

Spotrac just doesn't have the exact details of the re-structure and it's effect on the Dead Cap. OverTheCap does, however: https://overthecap.com/player/nyheim-hines/6989

After his restructure paying him millions in bonus money up front and the dead cap hits on his deal, he's pretty much locked in. Beane never restructures players and then cuts them. We also gave up a Draft pick to acquire him and he's only played a handful of games. RB in the 1st is out. Bet the farm.

I wouldn't. Not based off of things that have been said by Beane and McDermott or his contract. I think he will be used as a Returner (although it's possible he isn't as Harty was a 2019 First Team All Pro return man), but will also get some plays in between Cook and Harris. And if we take a guy in the 1st, who's inactive on Game Days? We're not going to dress 4 RB's. Even when we had Taiwan and he dressed for ST, we only ever dressed 2 other actual RB's.

I don't agree with the idea that (not that I'm saying you're saying it) Hines is just going to be a Special Teams guy. I don't think Beane traded for him just to be a Returner. Even McDermott has said they could have used him more on Offense. And with what we're paying him, I'd be further surprised if that were the case. As for Harris on a one year deal, I feel like it makes more sense to Draft a RB next year if you need to replace him and/or Cook regresses than it does doing it this year. It has to be WR, LB, or OL in Round 1. Maybe a DT if they think they might want to move on or won't be able to bring back Ed Oliver and/or DaQuan Jones after this season. Maybe a TE if they feel they need 2. RB is just a luxury pick that you shouldn't do in the 1st Round to begin with. Doubly so if you already have 3 RB's to feel good about and Triply (is that a word?) so if you have holes to fill.

We spent a 2nd Round Pick on James Cook just last year. He really started coming on strong down the stretch. We traded for Nyheim Hines a handful of months ago. Just signed Damien Harris to be the Thunder to their Lightning. Our RB room is in real good shape this season. Maybe we take a late round flyer on a guy. But in no way, shape, or form are we drafting a RB in Round 1 with the holes we have to fill on this team and the RB's we have already.

I have hopes that WR's fall as a whole and teams go with other WR's before Quentin Johnston first. Probably wishful thinking, though I did see Daniel Jeremiah mock him to us at 27. Anyone who watched the TCU v. Michigan CFP should know what I'm talking about.

He's the one who's available. In no way is LA ever trading Cooper Kupp.

I'd be cool with Allen Robinson (a WR ACTUALLY on the trade market). He was misused in LA. However, they'd have to eat a LOT of his salary. His contract is untenable.

You're right. This is a message board. So if posters post things that are one sided and don't look at the full spectrum, you should expect someone to point out that they're one sided and not looking at the full spectrum.

That and posters taking that as gospel and dragging others who are legit sources through the mud to fit their narrative. It's one thing to hope it happens. Hell, I hope it happens. It's another thing to simply ignore the entire story and focus on straw man arguments to push their beliefs as legitimate. Critical thinking gone by the wayside in favor of blind fanatical emotionally driven posting.

Members of this thread: He nodded when McAfee sang "Buffalo Soldier" Me: Yeah... at most he's nodding that the IG post was made, if not about something else that was said. Members of this thread: Confirmation the Bills are trading for Hopkins today.

Since like Friday, this is all I see in when I visit this thread

Yeah, the new head coach of the Denver Broncos who said he's not trading Jeudy. And simple logic that says trading their #1 WR doesn't make sense after Payton left NO to avoid a rebuild and set Russ back on track. https://www.nfl.com/news/broncos-sean-payton-on-courtland-sutton-jerry-jeudy-rumors-we-re-not-trading-tho As for Mike Evans, Todd Bowles has also said like Payton they have no interest in trading him and is completely baffled as to why it's even being talked about by anyone. https://www.joebucsfan.com/2023/03/todd-bowles-addresses-chris-godwin-mike-evans-trade-rumors/ Sorry if these sources aren't on the level of ErieCountyBulls. Fans of other teams were clamoring for a Stefon Diggs trade recently too. These ideas are just as likely as us trading Diggs.

OBJ, I could see Beane going with Kenny Golladay or Robbie Anderson (though that wouldn't thrill me), and/or a 1st or 2nd Round WR. Mike Evans and Jerry Jeudy aren't available for trade. Regardless of how much fans and media speculate, they aren't on the market.

It has. But if you watch the video, he never mentions the Bills. Mentions fits with other teams, mentions Raiders don't make sense, never mentions the Bills. So I don't know how this is giving anyone an impression. Unless we're once again trying to read deeply into things that may or may not be there. "He mentions every team but the Bills. This must mean the Bills are trading for him soon!"

What is that significant development?

Apparently, Ian not even mentioning the Bills but not outwardly excluding them like he did the Raiders is him giving the "impression" that the Bills are in 🙄

It's more valid because it's a BILLS Beat Reporter, who is *actually* seriously connected to the team and has covered them for 15 years, outright saying they won't be trading for him. He wouldn't say it like that unless it was confirmed to him. Not a beat reporter from the Texans. Not some rando on Twitter. It's Tim Graham. If you don't know who Tim Graham is and why his word means more than ErieCountyBulls - I don't even know what to say. As for Beane, he didn't just say he looked into it and they can't talk about him because he's on another team. He made a point to say that Social Media blows things out of proportion. He didn't have to say that and probably wouldn't have if things were serious. That was specifically done to let fans know it wasn't as serious as everyone around here thinks or hopes. Combine all of this with their reported asking price that we were never and will never pay - it's time to face reality. We probably made a call last Wednesday when it was being reported they weren't going to get much and when we found out what the actual price was, that was that.