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He's a Slot. Plain and simple. His success comes from working the middle of the field. You're nerfing him sticking him on the Outside. We did it in emergency situations last season and the results weren't nearly the same as when he was in the Slot. Fans see success out of the slot and assume that he can be #2 Outside. It's incorrect.

Our roster is littered with Slot guys or guys you can put on the Boundary part time or in an emergency. It's a problem we had when Davis went down. We didn't have 1 solid option to stick on the Outside opposite Diggs. Everyone wants to make Shakir an Outside guy, but Shakir isn't much of a factor there. His success comes from working the middle of the field. When we split him out Wide, we're nerfing him. We're desperately lacking on the Outside. It's all aboard the Thomas, Legette, Mitchell train in Round 1.

Exactly this. Even NFL Network said he's looked at as a Slot, but he can probably play some Outside too. I don't see us looking at Slot guys or even Tweeners in Round 1. McConkey is at best a Tweener. We need a guy who is a True Outside guy.

Unlikely. As @GunnerBill pointed out in a previous post, there's a long skew of teams between the 3rd coming off and when we're picking that are covered at WR and have much bigger needs. For us as fans, a lot of this stuff we're seeing is new. But teams go into this with a pretty good idea of where guys are at. Most people knew Mitchell would run pretty well. The 4.35 timed speed is great. But it's not going to move him up the board THAT much. I see it moving him from that early 2nd Round - fringe 1st Round, middle of the 2nd tier of WR discussion, to securing probably the 5th WR off the board, at best. And as others have said, his field testing hasn't been great. We haven't seen Brian Thomas run yet and there's a chance he's just as fast and will probably look better in testing.

I'll take his gauntlet over Franklin's all day, sideline lapse or not. Woof!

I've been saying it this whole time - Legette was being slept on and is going to rise when the Combine and Pro Day comes and his measurements and times are done.

Everyone's torching Coleman for his 40. Meanwhile, they show that he ran the gauntlet faster and smoother than anyone else. Timed speed and play speed are two different beasts.

Gotta say, I'm disappointed in Troy Franklin's time. That's not to say 4.41 is slow. It's just his "elite" speed is what separated him from others for me and made it easier to look past his skinny frame. This is why I've been all about him. You don't get 4.39 on a body like that every day.

Maybe there's a 2nd group?

That's more like it. That first one didn't line up with what I saw on video.

Thank you. I'm in the Combine thread reading things like "Coleman's now a 3rd Rounder" and "Mitchell is now clearly WR4 or WR5". It's important. But it's not EVERYTHING.

Coleman is only slept on in this thread and on this board. He's almost always the 5th Ranked WR by media prognosticators. If you watch the Combine, NFL Network has him as the 4th - above Brian Thomas Jr.

A 3rd is still a little high for me as much as I love him. Not that he's not worth it. Just I don't believe we can afford to use a 3rd on a 2nd RB. If Beane were to do it, I wouldn't be upset with it. But I kind of hope he's available as a trade up from Round 4, as the highest price we'd pay if he were to last that long. I totally agree with you about everything here. I believe Thomas and Coleman will be the 4th and 5th guys off the board. Coleman is really slept on by posters on this board. He seems to be almost universally ranked higher than Franklin everywhere but here. I also personally have Legette as much higher than most. To me, outside of maybe Thomas - he's my favorite.

Everything after the first 3 is interchangeable depending on the source. Watching the Combine today, Bucky Brooks' and NFL Network's ranking had Keon Coleman at 4 and Brian Thomas Jr. at 5, for example.

Here's a number of top WR prospects talking about meeting with the Bills. Great to see so many say we've held interviews with them. Especially to see ALL of the WR's I have from WR4-WR9 Troy Franklin fans, you're gonna love this - Joe Brady recruited Troy Franklin: Also met with Xavier Legette, another of my favorites, and he sounds like he wants us to come get him: Keon Coleman is excited by the idea of learning under Stefon Diggs: Brian Thomas Jr. on meeting with us and seeing mocks to Buffalo: Xavier Worthy talks about what his meeting with the Bills was like: Roman Wilson - also a big Stefon Diggs fan: We've also reportedly met with Adonai Mitchell - though there's no video of him talking about the meeting:

We'll see tomorrow. If he were to run that fast though with his blend of size, muscle, power, and tackle breaking ability - he'd almost surely be too rich for our blood, unfortunately.

You think we're signing Evans?

Take a look. With your infatuation with Derrick Henry, I think you're going to like what you see. If we do go RB, it's going to be a 220+ guy with a bruising, in between the tackles style to compliment Cook. Allen is 245 lbs. of muscle and power. Unfortunately, I don't believe he'll be there when we consider RB. Especially if he has a good showing tomorrow. But prognostications on him go anywhere from Round 2 to Round 5 - so who knows? https://www.si.com/nfl/ravens/news/baltimore-ravens-rb-braelon-allen-wisconsin-combine-draft-rumors-next-derrick-henry-free-agency

Agreed. Spotrac had him at a 23.8 aav. And that was before the cap went up and Michael Pittman and Tee Higgins were Franchised. He's going to the highest bidder. And that bidding war is going to be INSANE. In my opinion, his contract is going to make the Von Miller deal look cheap in comparison. We won't get past the guy at the table telling us the buy in amount, let alone take a seat and compete.

I mean, can it get to 100? With this board, probably. Should it? No. The Hopkins and OBJ threads were WAY more rational and realistic compared to this. That said, it's good he's hitting the market. Someone will pay a King's Ransom for him and remove themselves from Round 1 WR conversation.

He'll get us compliant by the time he needs to. But if you're hoping to see a grand total of what we'll be working with at the start of Free Agency, that's not going to happen. He'll be doing restructures, extensions, and releases all the way through the summer - making moves before or after other moves are made.

Posted this in the "2024 WR Class" as I found it fitting, though it may be better fitted here. Brandon Beane was just talking to Rich Eisen and Daniel Jeremiah at the Combine. A lot of it was about the Drafting of Josh, Josh as a player, the Bills vs. The Chiefs, etc. But they ended with this: A couple things there: - He seems to understand that everyone knows we're in the WR market and though he doesn't deny it, he always seems to throw in TE or RB. Downplaying the need for WR specifically and focusing on playmakers as a whole. Surely by design. - He shut down the media notion of Diggs possibly being moved. Diggs is going to be here this year. End of story. - While I do think the mentioning of RB is probably simply mentioning other playmakers that aren't WR to not completely tip his hand - he has mentioned the position on multiple occasions now. Makes me wonder if he's thinking about it higher than I'd expect. Certainly not Round 1 or Round 2. But maybe higher than the Round 5-7 I think we'd all expect/prefer. I think if a guy like Braelon Allen at a muscular, bruising 245 is available at the bottom of Round 3 or top of Round 4 - that may be something he considers in a move up from 4.

Brandon Beane was just talking to Rich Eisen and Daniel Jeremiah at the Combine. A lot of it was about the Drafting of Josh, Josh as a player, the Bills vs. The Chiefs, etc. But they ended with this: A couple things there: - He seems to understand that everyone knows we're in the WR market and though he doesn't deny it, he always seems to throw in TE or RB. Downplaying the need for WR specifically and focusing on playmakers as a whole. Surely by design. - He shut down the media notion of Diggs possibly being moved. Diggs is going to be here this year. End of story. - While I do think the mentioning of RB is simply mentioning other playmakers that aren't WR to not completely tip his hand - he has mentioned the position on multiple occasions now. Makes me wonder if he's thinking about it higher than I'd expect. Certainly not Round 1 or Round 2. But maybe higher than the Round 5-7 I think we'd all expect/prefer. I think if a guy like Braelon Allen at a muscular, bruising 245 is available at the bottom of Round 3 or top of Round 4 - that may be something he considers in a move up from 4.

Some quick thoughts over the past couple minutes: - Damn. Javon Bullard ran a 4.47. I was hoping he'd run a little slower. - On the flip side, Kam Kitchens just ran a 4.65. - Tyler Owens may not believe in Outer Space, but I bet he believes in that hammy he just pulled on his first 40 run. Between his ridiculous quotes and now this, his agent must be thrilled with his Combine 😆

As @GunnerBill pointed out, in listening to the end of Beane's presser at the Combine - the feeling I got was that Douglas is more likely to be released or traded than extended. I think most of that is going to happen. Though releases for any of the bottom 3 may not happen. As Joe B. pointed out with Harty, the options are: a.) Release him and save 3.2m on the cap b.) Restructure him and save 2.2m on the cap So basically it comes down to a differential of 1 million between having him or not having him. I'm honestly fine with either decision. But I feel like Beane would rather keep him. A second offseason with Allen could develop chemistry that wasn't there in Year 1 and I can easily see a situation where for a million, he'd rather see if continuity with Allen would pay dividends for just a million. At worst, he'll be the 5th or 6th WR not seeing much reps or touches behind Diggs, Round 1 WR, Shakir, and Kincaid (possibly even a mid round WR above him) and be a good returner for just a million. Hines will surely be renegotiated - but he won't be cut. At least not before the end of Training Camp. Pretty clear he and Beane made an arrangement where he'd have a shot to earn a spot this year in exchange for saving some space last year and his agent not causing a fuss about it. If we were to cut him, we would have done it last season. Makes no sense to keep him around and pay him anything just to cut him now if he weren't in the plans. Of which Beane has already said he is.