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Does it matter?

Wow. When you put it that way…

Beane's issues are not his ability to get "good" or "average" players. His problem is his inability to get difference making players, and his record on Day 2. 1 Aaron Donald is worth 3 Ed Olivers. 1 Sauce Gardner is worth 3 Kaiir Elams. 1 Jeffrey Simmons is worth 3 Greg Rousseous. Etc.

Chris Brown just said on WGR, not to expect O'Torrence to start. I don't know if he knows something because he works for the Bills, or if he is just guessing.

Your numbers are way off and Lamar not having an agent cost him a lot of money. Lamar has a base salary of $7.5M (not $32.5M). As the Ravens GM (Eric Decosta) said, the contract Lamar ended up signing is basically the same contract the Ravens offered him last year and he refused. Essentially, Lamar went into free agency thinking he would be a hot commodity and quickly realized that the wasn't. So he went back to the Ravens with his tail between his legs and took the same deal they offered him last year. Because he signed essentially the same deal he refused last year, what he did was trade a year of his career for $23M. Had he taken the deal last year, he would have earned $80M in 2022 ... instead of $23M. He also would have have been a free agent 1 year sooner, thus resulting in another contract (and pay day) one year sooner.

Another playoff collapse that is coaching centric. For example, no-one can say the Bills didnt have the talent (Beane's job) to beat the Chiefs in the 2021 AFC Divisional. But due to several coaching errors, we lost a game where we led with 13 seconds left. From not squibbing the ball, to playing 15 yards off of every KC receiving target, it all comes down to coaching. Thankfully we squeeked by the 4th-string-QB Dolphins in the wild card round, because im not 100% sure McDermott makes it out unscathed if we lost that game.

We may just see who is right next year (hope not).

Oh I think Beane would get to stay...

A lot of people will poo-poo this, but I too think McD's seat is warmer than most realize.

The 1990 Bills were one kick away from a Super Bowl title. They surely thought that a trophy was right around the corner too.

Given our lack of attention to the MLB position, this may in fact be our strategy.

Good idea.

Are we really going to pretend that the 8-9 Packers were a good team?

I wouldn’t touch this with a ten foot pole. The Bills schedule is incredibly tough (at least based on last years teams). Our division alone is capable of handing us 3 or 4 losses.

Is this even a discussion? Brady is wayyyy ahead of Mahomes.

Their final 4 games were against non-playoff teams like Chicago, Carolina, Jets, Packers. That helps.

You’re welcome.

Josh got injured on the second to last play of the game. It was literally the play before the hail mary. You’re blaming the loss on THAT? The offense put up 30 points. You’re saying the defense was a dumpster fire, giving up nearly 500 yards, because of Allen’s elbow injury? While barely squeeking by the likes of Detroit and Miami. I haven’t seen this many excuses since {omitting this part since it’s not the politics forum}

This ignores the fact that the Bengals were down multiple O-linemen that day too.

There are many posters who write-off the Bengals game as a fluke. They ignore the Dolphins game the week before. And the start of the Bengals game in Week 16. etc, etc.

Yeah I don’t think most people remember that Mahomes was thought of as a high 2nd or low 1st round pick up until a few weeks before the draft and he was no where near a top 12 pick until the draft itself.

It was definitely a bit of a reach at the time… USA Today gave the Chiefs a C- for picking Mahomes. “Calling Mahomes a project is a major understatement. He’s nowhere near ready to play in the NFL.” SB Nation: “My grade on what Kansas City did in this draft is due to my opinion that they gave up way too much to trade up for quarterback Patrick Mahomes in the first round.” Sporting News: “Trading up for Mahomes, a big-armed gunslinger who really doesn’t mesh with the true mentality as Alex Smith’s successor, set up a bad tone in this draft.”

Sorry for the confusion. I was talking about the playoff game where they started a 3rd string QB and we won by only 3 points.

Not saying you’re wrong but I reallyyyy hope our season doesn’t rely on a 34 year olds knee recovering to perfection.

Im not talking about a slide. Mahomes was listed in the 30-40 range on most people’s draft boards. Example: