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Our backup line looks pretty good. 6 different Bills score TD’s tonight.

My kids play and got me into it. I have the app on my Ipad.

WRs that the Bills could have drafted. Pick 28 - Worthy - 6 -81 - 1 (5 rushes 39 yards 1 TD) Pick 31 - Pearsall - IR Pick 32 - Legette - 6 - 77 Pick 33 - Coleman - 4 - 51 (2 games) Pick 34 - McConkey - 10 - 109 - 1 Pick 37 - Polk - 5 - 31 -1 (1 rush 0 yards) Pick 52 - Mitchell - 2 - 32 Others: All non-listed WRs either didn't make their teams, on IR or have 0 receptions so far. 3rd rd - Corley (1-4), Burton (1-47), McMillian (3-59-1), McCaffery (3-18) 4th rd - Franklin (2-11), 6th rd - J. Wilson (1-9), Whittington (5-50) 7th rd - Vele (8-39)

@Shaw66 Just read the story. Amazing! Give Benford the C.

Now if he can just get Elam to raise his game.

Actually Josh is a Lamborghini SUV with a 12 cylinder engine. He can run over, through and past you and he can also throw the ball anywhere and anytime. Can you imagine if Josh had Andy Reid?

The Cardinals were originally the Chicago Cardinals and moved to St Louis in 1960. They then moved to AZ in 1988. The Rams started as the Cleveland Rams. The moved to LA in 1946. They then replaced the Cards in St Louis from 1995 to 2015 and then back to LA in 2016. You also forgot the Raiders are now in LV and that the Chargers actually started in LA (in 1960) before moving to SD for 1961 to 2016. Also KC started as the Dallas Texans in 1959 and moved to KC for the 1963 season. Washington also moved from Boston (1932) to DC in 1937. The Lions were originally the Portsmouth, OH Spartans (1930) and moved to Det in 1934. The Bears were founded in Decatur, Ill (1919) (Not a pro team) and moved to Chicago in 1921. Buffalo, Miami, NE/Bos, NYJ, Cinn, Cleve (2.0), Pitt, Hou (2.0), Jax, Den, Dallas, NYG, Atl, Car, NO, TB, SF and Sea are the only teams in their original cities. Det, Wash, Chicago, and KC have been in their current cities for the vast majority of their existence.

Charlotte is the 20th biggest TV market. Raleigh the 21st. Carolina just needs better management. The Bills wandered in the desert for decades between Polian and Beane. Things got so bad the Bills were constantly in the relocation rumors. Get good management in Carolina and all the relocation BS ends.

The Chargers are the most vulnerable franchise. They seem like the only NFL team without a home or fanbase. Not sure where they go however. LA doesn’t need two teams. Sacramento is the 20th largest TV market, Portland 23rd, Salt Lake 27th. Salt Lake has two successful college programs each w 50k+ capacity stadiums. Not sure they want an NFL team.

I think you are basing your opinion on one draft where he got White, Dawkins and Milano. No one questions whether that was a great draft. The rest of his picks are pretty Meh! The 2014 draft was poor pick of Watkins, a few years of Preston Brown and then nothing. 2015 is journeyman Darby and pretty much nothing else. 2016 is Shaq Lawson and no one else. That leaves all of Whaley accolades from one great draft. Otherwise, no All-pro or pro bowlers from any other picks. Also Whaley's 2nd and 3rd rd picks were mostly bad. Whaley gave us greats like Cyrus Kouandjio, Reggie Ragland (who never played for the Bills), Adolphus Washington. His best day 2 picks were two mediocre players in G John Miller and LB Preston Brown. Besides Milano, which late rd Whaley pick made an impact on the Bills? None! By the time things are said and done Beane's 2022 draft will be considering vastly superior to Whaley's 2017 draft. The Bills currently have 4 starters from that draft in Benford, Bernard, Cook and Shakir. Now add Kincaid, Torrence and D Williams for 2023, Rousseau and Brown from 2021. Beane also added Oliver and Knox in 2019 and Allen, Edmunds, Teller and T Johnson in 2018. Harrison Phillips, also from 2018 has blossomed in Minn. Hard to call Moss and Singletary busts as they are starting running backs in the NFL this season. They just weren't an ideal fit here, but doesn't mean they were bad picks. In the late rounds Beane added starters T Johnson, Davis, Benford, Bass and Shakir, and good depth players Neal, Hamlin and Dane Jackson. Sorry, Beane wins this debate easily even with busts like Ford, Elam and Basham.

The Bills...... to their new stadium across the street.

Hard to respect someone with opinions like this. Did he watch the Bills roast Poyer in the Miami game? Allen’s rating is 124.2. Rodgers 103. Rodgers is a statute in the pocket. What is he going to do against the Bills pass rush with his mediocre o-line? I get being a fan, but facts are facts.

What about Josh is "secret"

Green Curry Thai Catfish in honor of the Jags.

The Bills as a team maybe the best kept secret. The whole narrative was that Buffalo got rid of Diggs, Davis, Morse, Bates, Poyer, Hyde, and White and were now a bunch of talentless hacks with 60 mil in dead cap, no no. 1 receiver and an injury riddled defense. Here is Rich Eisen getting clue.

Let the Cine hyde train begin. He was a terrific college player and he's now with the best DB coach in the NFL. Excited to see him improve over the course of the season and then challenge for a starting job next season. I'd like to add James Cook to the list. There are so many people here and in the national media that downplayed his 1500 yard season last year as a 1st year starter. His pre-draft description said he couldn't run inside or be an every down back. Wrong and wrong! People here wanted to dump him in the off-season for a 2nd day pick. A miss guided idea to say the least. The pre-season fantasy guides and season previews didn't even have Cook in the top 10 of NFL backs and some even further back. NFL.com had him 12th. https://www.nfl.com/news/ranking-all-32-rb1s-heading-into-2024-nfl-season-christian-mccaffrey-derrick-henry-top-pecking-order. CBS had him outside the top 20. What a joke. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/top-20-running-backs-rankings-for-2024-nfl-season-christian-mccaffrey-derrick-henry-atop-list-once-again/ If this isn't the definition of under the radar after being 3rd in the NFL in yards from scrimmage in 2023, I don't know what is. Oliver and Benford certainly quality as well. Benford was better than Elam in camp the year they were drafted and Benford has improved every game and every practice. Finally today the Sporting News is giving him some props. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/buffalo-bills/news/buffalo-bills-cb-christian-benford-already-better-sauce-gardner-new-york-jets-nfl/ce1e504a1dc3d2510f58d18a

A little off topic, but who are Beane's top 10 draft picks overall and top 5 value picks? 1. Allen 2. T Johnson 3. Benford 4. Teller (2 - AP, 3 - PB) 5. Cook 6. Rousseau 7. Oliver 8. Brown 9. Bernard 10. Edmunds Top 5 Value 1. T Johnson 2. Benford 3. Teller 4. Davis 5. Shakir Up and comers - Shakir, Kincaid, Cook, Bernard, Williams, Spector, Coleman, Bishop, SVPG, Torrence.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/buffalo-bills/news/buffalo-bills-cb-christian-benford-already-better-sauce-gardner-new-york-jets-nfl/ce1e504a1dc3d2510f58d18a Apparently there are other elite players on the Bills besides Josh Allen.

Not one team in the NFL has traded a kicker during the season in the last 5 years.

Because the trade the James Cook crowd needs something to do. Wait til they start the trade Benford thread.

FYI: There were 16 in-season trades last year total. 8 on deadline day. Of the 16 players: 5 DE, 4 WR, 2 CB, 2S, 1 OL, 1 QB & 1 RB. That's all folks.

Let's package Bass, Cook and Elam. I'm sure someone has 15 mill in cap space. LOL. Torrence is struggling a little, lets trade him also. If we haven't learned anything about the last 2 seasons is that injuries happen and often. Why do people keep wanting to trade our depth, especially depth that knows the system. Look who is filling in for the injuries; Cam Lewis (year 6 in the system), Ingram (year 3 in the system), Spector (year 3 in the system), Williams (year 2 in the system), even Hamlin (year 4 in the system) is starting over the finally healthy Edwards or Bishop who are both new to the system. This is Year 3 in the system for Elam. Right now with Lewis and Ingram playing regularly, Elam is next man up. He isn't getting traded this season. Different conversation next off-season.

How about we just beat the crap out of teams and not have to worry about GW field goals.

This will soften up over the course of the season. Defenses will creep up to stop the short passes and limit the running opening up 15-20 yard passes to the slot receiver and TE between the fronts 6/7 and the 2 deep safety. Offense vs defense is cat and mouse. Teams will stack the box until you prove you can either run through it or pass over it. Start hitting 15-20 yard chunk plays against the stacked box, defenses will put more LBs in coverage opening lanes for the running backs. The Bills are designed for this ebb and flow especially with the added benefit of teams having to spy on Josh to limit his rushing lanes when things breakdown. This keeps an extra defender in, allowing better WR/TE matchup. The more I think about the Brady plan, it seems designed to dominate the middle of the field. Our best pass receivers are mostly known as inside players, such as Cook, Shakir, Samuel, Kincaid and even Coleman. All can be split out, but all seem to do their best work inside. I wonder what new wrinkle Brady has in store for Jax.

Pre the 2023 season 3 long time veteran kickers were traded in late August. Will Lutz, Nick Folk and Dustin Hopkins all changed teams. Lutz and Folk each were traded for a 7th rd pick. In all three cases the acquiring team didn’t have an established kicker on the roster. In my quick search I couldn’t find an in-season trade for a kicker. Obviously kicker trades happen, but the Bills aren’t moving on from Bass this season and taking a 7 mill cap hit. I guess McD will just have to be more aggressive on 4th and short and get Josh to pass to Cookie for more touchdowns.