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Sports media personality Skip Bayless wrote on X that the Fish have more talent, but the Bills are better coached and have Josh Allen. I’m sick of that narrative. True the Bills are better coached and have Josh, but the Fish don’t have more talent. They have more media recognized talent in Tua, Hill, Ramsey & Waddle. However after those four and the 2 RBs (Achane is excellent), the Bills have much better players across the organization. The Bills lines are far superior and last I looked most NFL games are won in the trenches. The Bills secondary is also better. Ramsey is a brand, but Douglas and Benford have been incredible since paired last season. All in all, if I could take a few players off the Fish, the only 2 I’d take are Waddle and Achane. Hill and Ramsey are great but complete distractions we don’t need.

I guess we got more from former Dolphin Mike White running our scout team then the Fish got from Poyer and Neal knowing our playbook inside and out. Great job by the Bills coaches and players tonight. What a pleasure that was to watch. Anyone still want to get rid of Babich and Brady? Didn't think so.

The mini-bye also couldn't come at a better time for the Bills. The Bills have 11 days to get everyone up to speed on defense, especially the linebackers (I'm assuming Bernard is out for a few weeks), and give the coaching staff time to figure out who is best suited to take Bernard's place and how best to scheme to utilize the new starters best skills. If one of our opponents take something positive that they can try against the Bills it maybe our run defense. Unfortunately for most teams they don't have a speedster like Achane. The bad news for our opponents is that pass rush looks as good as I've seen it in years. A great pass rush coupled with excellent corner play from DB play makes the Bills extremely hard to throw against.

Buffalo Bills Stomping on some roaches

Anybody still want to trade Cook for a 2nd day pick? Didn't think so.

I know Achane had a good night, but considering everything, was there a single player on the Bills D that didn't play well? Offense: Cook and Shakir. Defense: Everyone with additional gold stars to Groot, Oliver, Von Miller, Benford and Ingram. Dunce Cap to Tua. Why the he// are you launching your self head first into a defender with the game out of reach. I hate to see anyone injured, but that had to be one of the stupidest plays I've ever seen. Dunce Cap 2. Jordan Poyer. Poyer you are a Bills all-time great, but your cheap shot on Shakir was completely uncalled for and the Bills and the game plan exposed you as the over the hill veteran you are.

I don't if this was already posted but..... https://www.buffalobills.com/video/postgame-victory-speech-following-buffalo-bills-31-10-win-over-miami

A defense without Milano, that then lost T Johnson and now Bernard has given up 13 points in the last 6 quarters of football. To all those who say there are no elite players on the Bills, Benford, Douglas, Groot and Oliver would like to have a word with you.

What are all the talking heads going to say now?

OL and long snapper

I can only imagine. I used to work on the 56th floor of Tower 1 and my brother was working in the WFC next door and had just come through the WTC subway before the first plan hit. He was one of the thousands that crossed the bridge into Brooklyn following the attacks.

It's why I posted a quote about his 9/11 work.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5756568/2024/09/11/jason-whittle-giants-911-patrick-swayze/ Talks about his work on 9/11 and that he is not Patrick Swayze's son (apparently there is another Jason Whittle who claims to be Swayze's son).

Maybe that’s why we got rid of all the old guys and have Babich running the D. (Yes, this is tongue in cheek).

Dolphin fish fillets.

That’s more than Likely.

Thanks for bringing up the Eagles. Let’s compare the stat lines of the two wideout groups. Philly 12/18 203 yards 1 TD Buff 12/14 152 yards 2 TDs Those are the stats for both teams’ receiver groups. Philly only had 2 receivers catch balls, Buffalo had 5. Which offense is more vulnerable to have a player taken away and becoming less effective because of it? Brown and Smith are exciting players, but which group had a bigger impact? The Bills group was extremely more efficient, more diverse and had more TDs. I’ll take the 2nd stat line.

@GunnerBill Volume? That isn’t up to the receivers. That’s up to the OC and QB. This was a low volume game because that is the offense we are running. It will probably be a low volume season. Brady’s goal this season is to control the game. That means for running, more West Coast type passing, and probably less offensive plays run.

Or maybe there were external limitations such as wind and game plan. The wind made deep passes nearly impossible for half the game. Also the weakness of AZ defense seems like it was covering short and intermediate passes as our players were open all game in that area. Bill Walsh taught everyone 40 years ago to take what the defense gives you. While Brady isn’t running the West Coast offense exactly, many elements of that offense are clearly on display. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Brady is using Allen like Walsh used Steve Young. As to grading, I didn’t start at A+ and not work out way down. I looked at all the factors such as catch% - 87%. YAC % 39%, TDs 2, zero penalties, zero drops, zero fumbles, 7 - 1st downs. All these are nearly perfect scores or in the extremely high % in their category. The only “low” score was yards, but even that wasn’t an issue given the game plan and wind conditions. Add the excellent blocking by the group and you get an A+. Frankly to compare this WR group performance to the career day of a single player no longer here, who played in a difference offense with a different OC in different weather conditions is silly. It’s lacks context and honestly is irrelevant. I’d give Davis a A+ for his performance that day, but how did the other wideouts do? How many drops, missed passes, how many penalties? If I remember correctly the Bills still lost that game. It was stated that they didn’t impact the game. Really? They accounted for 50% of the TDs, and 43% of the team’s yards from scrimmage. This was a nearly flawless performance. PS If total yards is the most important factor then Allen needs to be downgraded as well, yet @Kirby Jackson gave him an A+. After all he only threw for 232 yards. He also had a very costly fumble, missed a wide open MVS on a deep throw, and on the fumble he got sacked because he failed to get the ball out quickly to an open receiver. While Josh was Josh this was far from his best game as a pro. However it was an efficient and mostly well played effort where he made good decisions with the ball except the fumble. Sometimes yards aren’t the biggest factor.

This Josh leap is right up there with one of my favorite college plays. https://www.dallascowboys.com/video/throwback-thursday-herschel-walker-runs-over-bill-bates-379706 The irony is when Herschel went to Dallas, Bates (the Tenn player he runs over) was playing for the Cowboys.

Shakir

However, that still included feeding Diggs 75 times (398 yards) from week 11 through the playoffs (compared to Shakir only 36 times - 438 yars). That necessity is now gone and as the weeks go by I suspect Shakir's role will continue to grow. If it doesn't shame on Brady and the Bills. The guy had 30 yards of YAC in his 3 catches for 42 yards on Sunday, the other 4 receivers combines had 29 yards after the catch.

I think you are underestimating Shakir’s future with the Bills. He went from bit player in year 1 to starting slot receiver in year 2. Targets went from 20 to 45. The governor on his upside was feeding the Diggs monster. Now in year 3, I think you’ll see him grow into Josh’s security blanket. Beasley had targets of 106, 107 & 112 in his 3 season averaging about 10 yards a catch. Shakir averages over 15 yards. I expect him to have 80 - 90 targets this season.

That’s a cap savings of about 1.5 million this season

That was Gabe's career day and he gets a gold star. Different offense and different OC and and it's completely irrelevant to our discussion. Please don't avoid the question. What were our WR group supposed to do on Sunday that they didn't do? The only thing missing was a HR ball and that clearly wasn't in the game plan as Josh only threw two deep balls because of the wind. One of the deep balls was caught by Coleman on a excellent side line grab and the other was a missed throw by Josh. Again what more were they supposed to do?