JohnNord

I was including last season. At some point the whole “raw” excuse wear off. Put up or shut time

We’re halfway there and it doesn’t seem like Knox has improved all that much.

After looking into the EJ Manuel saga, it boils down to the fact that he never should have been a 1st round draft pick. He was a 3rd or 4th round talent that has potential to develop into a capable backup QB. Just because you draft a QB in round 1 doesn’t mean they are a 1st round talent. Drafting a player with EJ’s limited potential in the first round placed a lot of unfair expectations on him. The organization also didn’t have a very good plan to develop him. All in all, it’s an example of how clueless the Bills were being run under the likes of Russ Brandon, Buddy Nix and Doug Whaley I guess it depends on what you mean by the word “trash.” As a starter he was largely below average

The Bills really like Barkley as a backup QB. I think that he does a good job supporting Josh as a #2 QB which is why they likely resigned him a few years back. The Bills also love Davis Webb for the same reasons. If Josh goes down for any amount of time I think it’s understood the season is screwed. What that being said, I do believe Barkley’s contract is up this year. The team will likely resign Josh to a long term extension or atleast a 5th year extension. It does make me wonder if they look to bring in a veteran at QB2 I think you’re forgetting about Davis Webb on the PS who’s been around the team for nearly 2 years. I think he gets consideration along with Fromm to move up in the event of an Allen injury

This article is somewhat puzzling. The author says that Zay has been a disappointment for LVR over the past 16 games, but he might be a trade target based on his 56 reception season in Buffalo? My thinking is that the author looked at his 2nd round status and mediocre year in Buffalo and assumed he’d be a trade target. I would be shocked if the Raiders could get a 7th round draft pick. Any team that has a shot at the postseason around the deadline probably isn’t going to trade a valueable asset

I guess you forgot about the 70 yard punt that flipped the field after a bad Bills possession. I’ll agree with you here - this season the Special Teams leaves a lot to be desired. But I don’t think they are as bad as you outlined - I just see a lot of inconsistency - namely with Bojo

I disagree. At some point we need to see consistent progress. Everyone loves to use the “raw” excuses but he’s had over a year in the league and by now we should see some signs of progress. I’m not really seeing much other than inconsistency.

Del Reid got paid This leads me to believe that there was some sort of financial compensation between the Bills and Reid. It’s interesting because the other 2 founders didn’t seem to know about this earlier in the morning. So either there was an agreement with Reid and he didn’t tell the others. Or the Bills reached out to him and smoothed things over. Its also interesting that it took Del until 3:00 PM when the topic was trending earlier in the morning.

Fitz has never led a team to the playoffs

Also there weren’t 4 drive starts inside the 20 yard line. I think that miiiiiiight have been a little different

Cue the “he’s still learning the TE position” excuses

True...but to be fair, if games were coach vs. coach Belichick would win most times

I think 9-7 or 10-6 is a very realistic possibility. But sadly 8-8 is as well unless the tram fixes the defense. The AFC East games will be huge. I can’t underscore that enough HUUUUUUUUGE,. Especially New England. I’m very nervous to see what Belichick will have in store because I can assure you he’ll take the same approach to attack the Bills as Vrabel did

It’s not going to happen. Also I have a feeling the Bills will trade for help on defense before TE

If you are Gettleman and trying to save your job with a decent W-L record, why on earth would you start trading weapons

He helped at times for sure but I saw him getting pushed backward last night. It’s the middle of the field that remains open. Edmunds is a huge reason why as is Tauron Johnson. The problem is that the Bills were counting on both this year so the depth at MLB and CB is poor. Like I said, Oliver has flashed at times - last week’s 4th down stop comes to mind. But I think in 20+ games we have yet to see him really disrupt an entire offense the way other high draft picks have.

I will boil everything down to a few things: The defensive line not been good. They did a terrible job with contain which was a strength last season. They get pushes around in the middle and aren’t great at rushing the passer. Still, I think this unit has the best chance to get better. Linebackers are an issue. I think you undersold Milano just a little bit. He’s a solid player who is very good at coverage and decent against the run. The defense has always missed h when he’s been out. Edmunds has been a liability and has not been very good. It makes you wonder what the Bills saw in AJ Klein because he’s been just as bad. Cornerbacks also have been poor. Tre wasn’t having the best year. Levi Wallace is serviceable. Norman is below average and Tauron Johnson has been the worst of the group. It’s going to be a major undertaking to fix things on defense

How long can we use the “potential” for players like Knox?

They are comparable, but I think Williams has made more of a difference so far

We all love Brandon Beane who has made a lot of great moves as GM. But when you look at the players he drafted - particularly on the defensive side of the ball, they aren’t looking so good. The Bills preach “draft, develop, resign” and while this has worked for picks like White and Milano, the high to mid-round draft picks Beane has made are not making the difference you would expect. I know that it takes time to develop but we’re 2 seasons in and the excuses are running out. You will notice that severa players on this list stood out last night in a defensive meltdown for the wrong reasons. Tremaine Edmunds - Round 1, Pick 16 2018 Yes he’s young and he has been injured this year, but his weaknesses haven’t seemed to change much since his rookie year. Good coverage LB, but a major liability against the run. Unfortunately he hasn’t made any strides in shedding blocks and has missed too many tackles. Not good enough for an MLB in this defense. Bills have a tough decision on his option at the end of the year. Harrison Phillips - Round 3, Pick 96 2018 He had shown promise last season but seems to be having a tough time coming back from ACL surgery. Right now he’s just another guy on defense and maybe a below average DT since his return. Tauron Johnson - Round 4, Pick 122 2018 Opposite of Edmunds - good run CB, a liability in the pass game. He has been a major weakness this year and maybe THE biggest weakness. Ed Oliver - Round 1, Pick 8 2019 Oliver has shown flashes at times but seems to be invisible for long stretches. So far he hasn’t been been as effective as fellow 2019 DL’s like Quinnen Williams or Jeffrey Simmons have been. Out of all the picks on the list, I feel he has the most upside. Still you’d like to see him do more in year 2. AJ Epinesa - Round 2, Pick 54 Very very early to make a call on this pick, but so far there hasn’t been anything that stands out. Also the Offside penalty was a killer. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I think the offensive picks have been pretty good. But it seems like a lot of the struggles can be attributed to the lack of development of draft picks who are called upon for big roles.

People here are dismissing the human element of the situation. McDermott is a defensive-minded coach and has a long history with Leslie Frazier. The two seem closely aligned when it comes to defensive philosophy and personality. If the defense continues to struggle, I have no doubt, Sean will consider making a move, but it’s likely not Schwartz. I don’t feel he’d be a good fit given the personality of McDermott. Also he’d be firing one DC who led a bad defense, for another DC who led a bad defense.

I would agree with a B. The Bills had no running game going which put them behind the sticks quite a bit - yet he still converted some 3rd downs. The INT was a killer though. If you are going to give Allen a C, what are your grades for some other players? That’s on the LB’s.... Edmunds is just bad. At this point the Bills should just sign Nigel Bradham and sit Edmunds

This is going to create a real ripple effect at the QB position. Starting caliber QB’s like Ryan, Darnold, maybe Cam Newton could possibly be available this off-season.

looks like he feels good enough to work out