Virgil

This actually pissed me off. We beat the Falcons and don't move at all? The Raiders and Redskins ahead of us? I know these mean nothing, but that's BS

Just for fun. No trades or salary cap implications. But if you could add any player to our roster right now, who would it be? I'm torn between Julio Jones and Antonio Brown. I like Jones because of his size, but TT doesn't really throw jump balls. I guess I have to go with Antonio. The man can literally do everything. Screens, wildcat, deep ball. I know we are still going to be a rush first team and TT is a 200 yard a game QB, but his dynamic and what he makes defenses respect.... I think he makes us a playoff contender. Also, the fact that I'm not picking a QB makes me realize the basic comfort I have with Tyrod

Austin is overpaid

I think anything is on the table. The Colts are in need of depth and its a fair trade. Hilton isnt getting them over the hump. I dont believe there was substantial evidence to create this though

I know that we traded Sammy for a 2nd and that was great for next year. Right now, if the Colts would do it, I'd give them a 2nd for TY right now. That would be our deep threat, #1, everything we need while it seem like we might actually be contending. He's still young and better value than I think we would pull in with our 2nd round pick. Plus, with the way the Qb's are playing right now and how certain teams aren't tanking, I don't see QB's going 1, 2, 3 like we previously thought.

Is anything being said that makes you think I/We didnt enjoy it?

I guess we cant sign Kirk Cousins either. He lost and threw for under 250 in Arrowhead. His WR dropped the game winning TD, but thats got to be on Kirk. Im glad we have this new definition of what a good starting quarterback is.

Trading Dareus is at least at 14 million cap hit.

Accurate. Which is why its prudent to remember how that season ended and keep expectations in check

You need to shut that **** down immediately. Weve been here before with better starts. We dont use the P word here until November. Get it together son

Gilmore: 13 targets, 9 rec, 169 yd, 13 YPA, 72 YAC, TD, INT, 105.4 passer rating

Two things - TT is the same as he always is, but is learning to use the middle of the field. He now has a defense and a kicker supporting him. This team probably makes the playoffs with this scheme the past two years. I like TT, but lets not pretend he made this giant leap forward. Hes played well before. Hes not Elite and thats partially on him and partially on scheme. 2nd, we are all Bills fans and want to win. Those who go after TT just want to win and look at Bradys who win with crap talent around him. Some people want the HOF QB solution, some want the complete team option. Both work, but the QB is quicker. With that, find one of the million other TT threads about this is start something creative or that contributes. This is just a negative thread masked in positive intent

Im not going to mention the P word here. I did it after our last 4-2 and 5-1 starts and we both know how that went. Instead, I just want to enjoy where we are at and look towards the future assuming the world isnt going to crumble around us like normal. 1 - We have 6 picks in the first 3 rounds and may not need to trade up for anyone! None of the college QBs are demanding to be taken as saviors so far. There will still be a bunch taken early because of positon demand, but not because they are the next healthy Luck. Right now, TT is good enough and we have a guy developing on the bench. IF things stay as they are, those 6 picks can go anywhere. We can trade back and keep the picks flowing for next year or we can get BPA and improve even more. Think of our team right now and add a quality WR, RT, RB, DT, DB, and LOLB. Some as depth and some as starters, but think about what we would be. 2 - Now just look at the division window. Pats spent a ton of money and are getting crushed on D. They still own us and Im not saying otherwise until we beat them without them starting their backups, but that window looks to be closing. 3 - We have a head coach who seems to have a plan, sticks to it, has some personality, but isnt Rex. Could we possibly be stopping the coaching carousel? Hes brought a scheme in that allowed us to turn over more than 60% of our roster and be competitive immediately. We have big contracts holding us back that will only dump off and give us more money down the road. Basically, things are going to get better their. (Only negative - how will the team and McDermott respond to a 3 game losing streak or any adversity is to be determined) 4 - We have owners who arent moving us. nuff said 5 - Could this possibly all be the cure to BBFS? After 17 years, a lot of us could use that. Go Bills!

A wobble for a WR means he doesnt have possession for a catch. So shouldnt that be the same for a QB when passing? Im not arguing or saying youre wrong. I honestly dont even know anymore with all the rules.

Maybe the cigarette smoking man finally died and the conspiracy is over

In honor of this weeks win, can we please just lock all TT threads this week. What's the man got to do to earn a break around here?

Wow. Just wow. What an amazing game that felt like it would turn into a typical Bills loss for the past 17 years. It's hard to not Billieve right as no one had us 3-1 to start the season. I'm going to keep the hype train going and keep all the negatives to one point. Let's get this party started!!! 1 - Officiating - How many times do we come out on the winning side of 50/50 challenges? I know a lot of people want to point to this as the main reason we won, but I have a different opinion. There were three reviews that had a major impact and I think the Refs only messed up one of them, which went against us. For the INT and the Fumble recover, I'm not saying that they were 100% correct calls on the field, but I don't see how you could have overturned either of them. With the fumble, the ball definitely moved before Ryan's arm pushed it forward. The question is, what's the definition of control before a pass? With all of our rules around possession on a catch or fumble, I can see how there wasn't 100% evidence to overturn the call on the field. On the INT by Hyde, I think we got lucky with player positioning and camera angles. It definitely looked like the ball hit the ground with Hyde's hands on it, but you can't get a clear view of whether or not the ball moved. Again, I don't see how you can overturn the call on the field from the replay. Now the Freeman catch is a different story. While I don't agree with the rules on what a catch is after the infamous Dez play, you can clearly see where the ball moves and possession is not owned all the way through the catch. I'm not complaining about the refs or the game overall, but I think an argument can be made that calls went both ways. 2 - Shady - It was hard not writing about Shady the past two weeks. Seeing him with the slightest bit of space and gaining those extra yards just makes me appreciate what we have in him and what he can do if he stays healthy. He's holding that wrist every week it seems and I feel like it's only a matter of time. Besides that, he found a way to fall forward just enough times for first downs and really drive it home on that 9+ minute drive. I would have loved to see him in there more on first downs vs Tolbert, but eh. Also, did you hear about his press conference when he blasted the reporters for not giving him a chance, but he would still let them interview the winners? Got to love that man. 3 - Hyde - This is my first time mentioning him in these reviews and man did he earn it. The man was possessed out there and just controlled this game. Him and Poyer might be the best backfield tandem I've seen in a very long time. They are both money will spend and a huge part of our success. I'm actually looking forward to seeing him cover Gronk (probably famous last words). Either way, I love him getting it together out there and taking control. This was his defense today and there was no doubt about it. He was flying to the ball and I was pulling for the TD on hit INT. He earned it. 4 - Take your time 'cause the way I rhyme's gonna make you smile, when ya Realise that with a guy my size it might take a while, just to Try to figure out what all this is for. Pinch me 5 - Haushka - I'm officially sorry for every negative thing I thought about you when we signed you this offseason. It was nothing personal, I just heard about your missed extra points and your first missed field goal this year scared me. I'm truly, deeply sorry. Because man, are you kidding me with these 50+ yarders!? This guy is killing it for us. I wasn't even nervous on his last field goal. It's amazing to have a guy like this and only begs the question, why didn't we let him kick it before our first punt? 6 - Tyrod - I thought it was a fluke last week, but now I'm realizing this guy just knows how to make this throw. Does anyone understand how hard it is to throw on the run AND across your body? I couldn't figure out why we are rolling him out that way for the harder throw. But the answer is: Because he can! Yes, TT missed some throws today. He missed 2 that were pretty bad. But you know what, so did Ryan. If TT missed that last throw, people would be losing their minds on here calling for Peterman. He also threw some perfect balls today including the deep ball to Clay, the TD to Matthews, and a few others in stride that were starting NFL QB throws. Fine, he's not going to throw for 300 yards and carry us. Ryan attempted over 40 passes and lost. Tyrod escape the pocket and made some amazing plays on his feet and WON the game. We know his limits, but we are seeing flashes as well as improvement. How many more throws over the middle do you have to see before we can agree that it's in his arsenal. Great game Tyrod. 7 - McDermott - There's quite a few calls in the game where I scratch my head as to what McDermott is thinking. Trying to get the Falcons to jump offsides on 4th and goal made absolutely no sense as they couldn't get rewarded with a 1st. But at 3-1, with penalties under control, and with a defense that is just playing amazing, he's earned the benefit of the doubt with me. There was only one play on defense where they looked confused, and that was the passing touchdown we gave up. Other than that, this team went into an insanely tough venue against a crazy fast offense, and held them to 17 points. I'm trying not to get too caught up in things after 4 games, but this really does feel different with him. 8 - Around the NFL and the rest of the season - I don't know if the talent level has increased or decreased, but the parody in the league this year is as diverse as I've seen it in a long time. It really feels like almost every single team can win on any given Sunday. Oh yeah, and the Pats lost at home to the Panthers. Now how does that loss feel for us? I'm not saying anything about us making the playoffs or what I think is going to happen, but you can't deny that every single game on our schedule looks a lot more winnable now than it did in the preseason. The Pats game in Foxboro and the Chiefs games are the only ones I expect us to be favored to lose by a decent margin. Other than that, with today's win and how the league is shaping up, I think a lot of us are re-evaluating our Win/Loss predictions now. 9 - Grass is Greener - It's easy as a fan to watch the same team every single week and pick apart your teams flaws, while not giving them credit for their wins. This is especially true for Bills fans who are used to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. But today we saw a team with a Pro Bowl QB, two amazing running backs (seriously, they are insanely fast and talented), and a great receiving core. They had so many weapons that I don't think they know how to use them all. If Ryan just had 75% of the plays run through Coleman and Freeman, I don't know that we win this game. Those guys were monsters out there. But they have so many weapons, I think they feel obligated to spread it around more and use Ryan's arm. Plus, like I said before, there were missed passes by Ryan that would get TT crucified on here. The point is, you have to take credit for the wins as well as the losses. If Ryan looked bad, give us credit for making him look bad. Give TT the credit for winning the game. Rarely is there a perfect game and there will always be plays you want to get back. But that's why you play the full 60 minutes and that's why discipline usually wins out. We are showing that discipline. 10 - Negatives - I'm not going to get deep here and keep it to quick hits. If Tolbert lost that fumble, I'm putting his house on the market. Jones needs quick passes early in games to get his confidence up. That Carolina drop is looking less and less on TT. Mills got blown up twice in a row to start the second half. I really want to know what's up with Dareus. If he's that hurt to not play that much, why dress him? If not, why is he not in more? His snap count was absurdly low. Lastly, should have called a defensive TO on the passing TD. We clearly weren't ready. 3-1 to start the season ladies and gentlemen!!! Who saw that coming?!? Savor it and let's move on. And before we start with the "Here comes the letdown loss to the Bengals.", just stop. Good teams are 1-3 right now and this season is rough for everyone. Whether we are 4-1 or 3-2 heading into the bye week, this was a great win and we are further ahead than anyone thought we would be. So for a week, let's leave TT alone. Let's hope our WR's can step up for Matthews (Talking to you Jones), and Gaines injury isn't too bad. This is a great win and a good feeling. Bills Win, Pats Lose!!!! Go Bills!!!!! *Post Edit - I dont know how I failed to give Clay a spot in here. I had him in my notes and just missed him. Was the leading NFL receiver through the 1pm games. Yes, thats with TT at the helm. Amazing game for Clay and love seeing him develop into the guy we hoped hed be. Hes earning that contract this year.

Good thing we have a bye week coming up. Zay needs to figure things out.

This game hurt our playoff chances. We need to lose to the NFC opponents. Terrible coaching decisions

Seriously with this? Can't you enjoy anything? There's missed calls, passes, whatever in every single game. Enjoy the win man. It's been less than 30 minutes

Wasnt on the field for 1st and goal

Where is Dareus?

Zay?! Are you !@#$ing kidding me!!!!! How are you this terrible at catching?!!! Carolina game is looking more and more on you.

Tolbert needs to not run the ball again unless its goalline or 1 yard is needed. He kills the momentum.

Damn you for making me think about all the things I no longer have! In order.... Burger Time (parents owned a wing shop and it was there) Mortal Kombat II (you could drop me off at the arcade for an hours with just .25 and I would be fine After Burner (Sit Down version where the seat moved) Simpsons Pinball (Again, hours) Daytona USA (Still my favorite racing game to this day) Virtual Racer (The real was I learned how to drive) One day, my goal is to have a universal arcade console in my basements for 1 & 2, and own 3, 4, and 5 as they were.