Virgil

Trade/Cut TT Trade Glenn - Dawkins did fine, save money, get picks The rest - Trust the process Oh yeah....keep Tolbert off the field!

Don’t be that guy

Good

Has this been substantiated anywhere?

Which rumor is this?

So for clarity, TT could be verbally traded now with minimal penalty to us, with it finalizing on 3/14. That team could also negotiate a new deal between now and the 16th, or just pick up his option. Is that correct?

This isn't specifically about Alex Smith, moreso the entire NFL offseason and how this one move really set the table for a lot other moves. Also, we are starting to see moves that you typically only see in the MLB. The value of the QB is as high as we've ever seen it. Let's just say that Smith is a 10-15 rated QB, which is generous in my opinion. For him to net that much guaranteed money is crazy to me. Getting 23 mil a year for his performance is going to reset the entire QB market, moreso than Carr and Stafford. From that, I think we will see: Cousins may get the first fully guaranteed contract in NFL History Cousins may get 30 mil a year If McCaron's hit the market, I think he will eclipse the crazy contract that Osweiler got. Trading the rights of players could become a thing The Chiefs were cash strapped and if it weren't such a high demand position, Smith could easily have been cut or asked to renegotiate. In recent years, most other teams would have just waited for that to happen. Not only was he not cut, but he was traded for a really high value just for the rights to him. It also happened with Garropolo. Maybe there's more of a precedent for this that I'm not thinking of, but it feels more like the baseball All-Star trading deadline where teams are getting players with limited contracts left in hopes to get a leg up on negotiating rights or use of the franchise tag. While we all have mixed opinions on Tyrod, I think most would agree he would be a solid backup and an improvement for some teams as a starter. I still don't understand the cap restrictions with trading him because of his option, but I think there would be a market for him as well. If Smith got a 3rd and a player, we could possibly get a 4th for TT. Whether that would be worth it because of the cap hit, I don't know. The Browns aren't sold on the rookie QB class The reports said that 6 teams were interested in Smith, but only the Browns and Redskins were working on a trade. Since the Smith contract extension was announced so quickly, it has to be assumed that the extension was a prerequisite of the trade. Assuming more, the Browns knew that Smith wanted and extension with the trade and were in on that. TO ME, that would indicate that they were better with Smith as their starter for the next 4-5 years than using either of their top 4 picks on a QB. Yes, it's the Browns, but still interesting to me. It also shows that they are officially looking for a QB upgrade, which some did think they might try to go with what they had. Of the teams needing QB's, we have the 2nd most cap space If we do want Cousins, we are in good shape to go after him from a total cap perspective. The Broncos would have to cut and they have some expiring contracts. However, I believe we have the most expiring contracts of any team, so we will need some cap. If Glenn checks out as healthy, I could see him traded since McDermott has his love affair with Dawkins. But, I again don't know the cap hit of that trade. The number of teams needing a QB dropped by 1 and I think other teams are better off than they would want you to think. Browns (Picks 1 and 4) - Will take a QB Giants - (Pick 2) - Has a lot of holes and say they want to stick with Eli - Trade Back Partner #1 Colts - Pick 3 - I don't think McDaniels takes that job unless he knows Luck is good to go - Trade Back Partner #2 Broncos - Pick 5 - Need a QB and could trade up to make sure no one jumps them (Could also make cap space and go after Cousins) Jets - Pick 6 - Need a QB and could trade up to make sure no one jumps them (Definitely has cap space for Cousins) Picks 7-14 all have QB's and only the Cardinals at 15 could use a QB. With all of that, Cousins has to go somewhere, which leaves 3 teams ahead of us that need a QB. As it stands, if Allen is taken by one of them, that would leave us with Darnold, Mayfield, or Rosen as the leftover, which I'm sure most of us would be fine with. The most important thing I've learned from last night is that this offseason is going to be a lot of fun and I'm glad I have this place to talk it out with people

I don’t think McDaniels takes that job if Luck isn’t in the plans to be the starting QB

Of the teams needing a QB, only the Jets have more cap space. And that’s before we release TT. However, we probably have the most URFA too. If we can defer any of the Cousins money to next year, we’d be in great shape.

Top 10-15 quarterbacks available in FA are like unicorns. And an overpayment today is tomorrow’s bargain. You give us Cousins and let us keep our picks, we are in the playoffs the next 5 years.

I think this puts the over/under for a Cousins deal at 28 mil

That’s what some thought the chiefs would do. I think there will be a market for Tyrod. It may only be a 3rd or a 4th, but he’s better than what else is out there and he’s cheap. I think the odd man out in Minnesota will get more than 18 mil. Problem is, if I’m the Bills, do I really want to risk not getting my QB in the draft, losing TT, and having no one besides Peterman and some 10 mil guy?

Couldn’t we agree to a trade before that? The Chiefs just did

Yeah, I want nothing to do with Smith for that kind of money.

I’m kinda happy this happened. Smith is just accepting more of the same. Let’s go big or go home. Trade up or Cousins

Is there confirmation a 2nd was traded for him?

This should be really interesting for a bunch of reasons. I think most would agree that Cousins is better than Smith, but Smith is still a good QB. With that, Smith’s deal should set the floor for the Cousins deal. Also, I’m curious to know what went on behind the scenes to make the Skins think they had to jump on this. They had a decent draft spot and Smith was rumored to be cut for cap reasons. End of the day, it shows what we all know.

He has Jackson graded higher than Mayfield. Am I missing something here? I haven't seen that anywhere else

You're nothing if not consistent. I'm glad to see you can think outside the box. Well done in living up to your reputation

I feel like we are missing a lot of information here. I’m glad to know he wasn’t playing through something diagnosed early in the season that was more threatening and ignored. I thought I read that he planned to retire regardless of this development, but haven’t seen it referenced since. Overall, I there is a mistake and he can play next year. If not, I hope this is the day he wanted and it wasn’t adjusted because of cap reasons. He deserves a good send off

If there were one QB that I wish turned out to be the answer for us, it’s Fitz. He had a great nickname, beard was amazing, embraced the city, and overall opitimozed what it means to be a Buffalo Bill. Also, he went to Harvard if you hadn’t heard. Seeing him at Wood’s press conference today just made me reminisce about the guy and still holds one of the best memories for me when we beat the Pats in Week 3 a few years back. That’s a game we normally lose while Fitz and Freddy stole the show.