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I guess there's an argument to be made for trading up and getting one of those WRs. The only guys I thought that would be worth it for the Bills would have been Chris Olave, Jameson Williams, or Garret Wilson and all of those guys were taken so early that you'd be giving up way too much.

We don't know that for sure though really, and we probably never will. Beane said Elam was the last guy left that they had a 1st round grade on, but we don't know if he had McDuffie higher on the big board. I think it's possible that they had size concerns about him.

I think Ford looked worse than he was because Daryll Williams was sucking it up bad at Tackle too. I'm not saying he was good, but I don't want to see the Bills invest a 2nd into IOL really. Give me a skill position guy like Skyy Moore, Christain Watson, or Breece Hall. I want to see an offensive impact moving forward.

I could totally see that happening, especially with the 4th round pick gone now.

If Bills fans are this upset, I can't imagine what it must be like to be a Patriots fan when they traded back to take a late 3rd round guard at 29.

Okay. So I'm going to ask you again, who was available at 23 or 25 that would contribute to alleviate that? Last time I asked you, you gave me a linebacker, which wouldn't do anything to answer the problem that you're putting out there. You seem upset with the Elam pick, mainly because you think the offense needs shoring up, right? Well I'm saying that there's nobody left in that first round that makes sense to take for our offense. So you're left with trading down, or filling that clear need at CB with a guy with incredible tools, something that Beane loves. I'm just trying to understand why you're upset. It just seems irrational.

I don't really think there was a clear problem. They were very good, one of the best in the league. I don't know why you're asking me that though. If you think there was a problem, by all means enlighten me.

I don't see how that's obvious at all. Why would the Bills draft a LB to sit all year when there's a big, gaping hole at CB. You don't have to agree with the Bills but it's clear they like Edmunds. You were also talking this whole time about how the Bills are doing Allen dirty, so I don't see how drafting a LB supports what you were saying previously.

I mostly agree, I was just arguing with the other poster who said the Bills were doing the same thing to Allen that Green Bay has done historically to Rodgers. Just pointing out that the Bills have used premium assets to help out Allen. I'm all for drafting weapons in rounds 2-3, I just don't see how it wouldn't be a big reach to have done that at pick 23, where just about all of the 1st round WR talent was already spoken for.

I'm dumb. Fixed, thank you.

Ah yeah, the great Can Newton. You know they went to a superbowl right? You could do a lot worse than that run of years Carolina had when he was at his peak. That's really not the insult you're trying to make it out to be. Allen has a much better throwing motion too so the window is just going to be open longer. Full disclosure, I wanted a WR too, but I don't want them to reach for one. There was no WR left on that board that had a 1st round consensus. It's just a fact. The IOL was gone. Going RB is just bad business. CB2 is a logical and good place for them to invest in, and now we have a cost controlled asset opposite White for the next five years. I really don't understand your logic here. Who was on the board that was the obvious pick over Elam, or even CB?

I know what you're trying to say, but re-read that sentence and tell me it makes sense. Beane used the 2020 first round pick to get Diggs, so you're objectively wrong about that. Green Bay hasn't hit really on any WR draft picks, we have with Davis. We've signed decent FA depth historically as well, while Green Bay has certainly had more trouble than this. It sounds like to me that you're having a tantrum instead of thinking about this logically.

Lots of options and paths for the Bills to go in now that they're set at CB2. RB is a fun idea, but WR, IOL, even TE are all in play.

I hope not. Knox is such a weapon and he's in the upper echelon of TEs.

-The top IOL were already gone. -There was a huge run on receiver, leaving scraps and mostly 2nd round prospects -RB is never a position the Bills have heavily invested in, and Zack Moss is still under contract (although I think he's garbage). -There are zero 1st round rated TEs this year. Do you think the draft is over? They literally have 6 more picks. This is just a poor take.

Did you not see the run on WR? Any WR left would be a much bigger reach than Elam. You could easily trade up and get somebody in 2nd-3rd if you're that worried about it.

THANK YOU. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills with all the people obsessed about losing a 4th rounder to move up. This player is going to be a killer fit for this team because of the athletic profile and his work ethic. He's exactly what we should want in a CB2 role and has the tools that Levi Wallace straight up didn't have.

Tre played mainly press man in college too, how can you possibly say that with such authority?

I'm seriously surprised to see the disdain on this board with this pick. Elam is going to be great opposite Tre. He has a speed element that the secondary is seriously lacking and he has great measurements. When we're playing guys like Hill, Waddle, and now Jameson Williams multiple times a year we're going to need this kind of speedy man element to ensure we don't get killed in YAC. This is a great piece to make our defense that much more dominant.

I'm gonna lose my mind if we draft another DE or IDL. I was almost okay with the back to back DE pick last year but the room was so crowded we barely even got to develop our young talent. It would be the same problem again this year if we draft a D-Lineman.

Taking the Chargers to LA was such BS. As if Los Angles needs two NFL franchises to be uninterested in.

I just don't see a justification for extending Poyer, as much as I like him. I'm not even saying that he doesn't deserve an extension, I think he probably does, I don't see how the Bills could swing it though.

It's barely even a blip on the scale of ridiculous NFL names, and honestly in the 10+ years I've worked in public education I've heard a lot worse.

Yeah, there are a ton of dedicated guys who push their bodies to extremes. Josh though has (in my opinion) a really unique ability to self reflect and improve. There basically has never been a QB who has changed his mechanics so drastically (and consistently). The guy is a unicorn in that regard. He also is probably a top 10 athlete to ever play the position, honestly.

I think Max Borghi is a guy who might be a sneaky target for the Bills. He seems like a value pass catching back who can be grabbed day 3. I think RB is a need for the Bills this draft but I don't think it's a need I would want to spend a high draft pick on. He's also said he's spoken to the Bills a few times.