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Go back and read our messages then come back and answer, otherwise there’s nothing more to discuss There’s not a single person who would say they want the MVP over the Super Bowl, we agree on that. You make it seem like it’s ludicrous that people even want to debate the MVP though

Actually yes I do have a big problem with you saying you would rather have an MVP than a Super Bowl. Who would rather have that? Wanting to see Josh win the MVP (or at least debating it) also doesn’t mean no one wants to win the Super Bowl-who thinks that linearly?

If that’s Lamar performing “well” under pressure, I LOVE the Bills chances against him. 65% completion, barely 250 yards, and 2 touchdowns? Sounds like a pretty average day for a QB

Has anyone said they would rather have Josh win the MVP as opposed to the Super Bowl?

If the Ravens win tonight then Jackson will be Included in that…I don’t necessarily agree with it, but he will be

The comparison isn’t intended to be Josh vs Trevor as a QB-there’s no debate about that. My point is that it seems Lawrence relatively speaking has gotten a much bigger pass on his turnovers than Josh has. We all know why, but perhaps after this season there will be more scrutiny on the QB who had by far the best team in the AFC south and they could now potentially lose the division and not even make the playoffs!

Oh I agree with that, it just seems to me that Lawrence is in the Justin Herbert category-somehow he is able to escape a lot of blame that perhaps other QBs aren’t afforded

You think Brady has faced an easier set of games than what the Bills faced last year? Jets, Chiefs, and Cowboys all have good-great defenses, Eagles have a great run defense (they give up a lot of passing yards though) and yeah they should’ve done better against the chargers. That’s not an easy stretch to start as the OC. Im also not sure about saying this AFC is the weakest it’s been in years. I was listening to a podcast the other day talking about this and they were talking about this. The perception is since it’s not Mahomes, Allen, or Burrow at the top it seems weaker but there are still very strong teams. I do agree with you though that I do like the Bills chances against any team in the AFC (or NFC for that matter).

Since Josh has this perception of being turnover prone and that seems to be the biggest thing people talk about with him, why is there not the same narrative about Trevor Lawrence? He has 8 games in his career (including today) where he has had 3+ turnovers. By comparison, Josh only has 5. Not only that, he has only 1 less turnover than Josh has since the start of 2022. So how is it that turnovers are never really something mentioned with Lawrence? My guess is it has something to do with his draft status and him being a “can’t miss” prospect

Man was Miami “lucky” in their game today-won by 2, last second field goal, needed 5 field goals just to be in the game (including a 50+ yarder), team didn’t play well….means they won this game purely on luck right?

It’s not absurd at all! You keep saying they got lucky-so answer for me, so other teams get “lucky” or is it just the Bills? Or does it not matter because what one team does has no effect on another team-or whatever nonsensical argument you’re trying to make? What many have said and what I will say AGAIN (please finally read and understand this) claiming the Bills only won that game because of luck is disingenuous. They could have played better, sure, but the bottom line is they won the game. It wasn’t a lucky win, it was an ugly win-big difference that you’re not getting

Because you can’t sit here and criticize Josh’s play without comparing it to his contemporaries. As I have mentioned already to you but you still ignore is that every team lacks consistency. How is Josh playing compared to other QBs? How “lucky” have other teams been this year? Without those comparisons your argument lacks context

So then the question is why do they have him run the routes he does if he is a big receiver? Nothing down the seam, no comebacks, everything is an out route or he’s used as a safety valve

There was A LOT of talk before this 4 game stretch that the Bills would be lucky to win 1, maybe 2 games. They ended up going 3-1 and are a Jake Elliott absolute bomb from 59 yards from going 4-0. Say what you will about them being LuCkY but have some appreciation for how the team played over the last 4. Bottom line, they handled their business-now keep it going through these final 2 games and into the playoffs

Ahhhhh there it is!! The old “can’t expect to play like that and beat________” Boeing cliche that’s used in here all the time after a close win. Here’s the thing about close wins-it’s an absolute impossibility to play a flawless game and also have the game be close. All i keep reading all season is “the Bills got lucky that this didn’t happen” no they are winning some close games and losing some close ones. A big complaint on here is the Bills can’t win close games. Guess what, they won a close game yesterday. In case you have forgotten, the other team is also paid to play football too. i feel like you’re ignoring the responses being made to your posts-not one person has said they played a good game yesterday. They played an ugly game BUT THEY STILL WON. That is infinitely more important than whatever point you’re trying to make

Ok cool, I’ll play along-if Josh doesn’t inexplicably throw 3 int against the jets, if the defense stops Mac Jones on the last drive, if the Bills don’t have 12 men on the field against Denver, if the Bills aren’t part of an experiment against Jacksonville that Goodell admitted was a bad idea, if Elliot doesn’t make a 60 yarder in that rain and wind, those are all Bills wins. so take the Toney one if that makes you feel better

But this is the problem with your posts-you don’t have to care but you need to pay attention. Every team has ugly wins, every team plays inconsistently (it’s almost like the other team is also paid to play football). We complain that the Bills can’t win the close games, and then when they finally do we complain that they are inconsistent or “well they can’t play like this against __________” Just keep winning games, that’s all that matters

You know how not works around here-there are so many highlight watchers on here who take that as gospel for the other teams while simultaneously scrutinizing every detail about the Bills. I said this in another thread, every team that will end up in the playoffs this year has ugly wins, that’s not just a Bills thing. If you go back and look at the Chiefs games from last year, they are loaded with ugly wins-nobody cares though because they won the Super Bowl

and the winner for worst take in this thread goes too….

This is the epitome of “I only watch highlights of other teams but scrutinize everything the Bills do.” Saying no one wants to face them doesn’t mean they are going to the Super Bowl, but they won’t be an easy out. You’re just having an easy reaction to a tough win. Maybe that makes you feel better if they do lose in the playoffs, I don’t know, but every team that’s about to be in the playoffs has ugly wins on their resume. I’ll take an ugly win every day of the week-it’s the NFL, every team can win on any day

Many of you are missing the point. You’re right, he probably won’t get $15 million, but I doubt he even had the intention of actually getting that much. My guess is this is an early negotiating tactic by him and his agent-good chance this will get him more than what he would’ve gotten otherwise

Oh Gabe-just another disappointing performance. Was talking with a couple of friends and we were all really angry that Gabe really did nothing on that deep ball to him. Yes it was under thrown, but he didn’t fight to try and slow up to catch it or draw a PI. It barely landed behind him too, seemed like a really poor effort

Someone needs to explain to me how Purdy is even in the conversation. He’s not even the MVP of his own team (you might even make the argument he is third on his team behind CMC and Deebo) but he’s the favorite for league MVP?? How does that make sense?

Dude if you're 34 you are the epitome of millenial still living at home in your mom's basement. Clearly I struck a nerve with a joke - relax buddy. I know it's a big time today, everyone is tightly wound...didn't realize the meme would get you so bad. Take a xanax or whatever you need to calm down, enjoy the game, and Go Bills!