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I’ve got him as a tier 2 guy. I think you could make an argument to shuffle any of them around a little, but this is how I have them right now, based on current ability/production. Tier 1: Maholmes Wilson Rodgers Tier 2: Breese Brady Roethlisberger Allen Watson Burrow (yes, I have him here after half a year, sue me) Dak (Healthy) Jackson (results, not prototypes, the guy is the MVP for a reason) Tier 2.5 Murray Ryan Stafford Tannehill Carr Goff Tier 3: Bridgewater Cousins Jimmy G Herbert Wentz Fitz Rivers The rest are place holders or so often injured (Darnold) they don’t really matter and Tua doesn’t have enough work in for me to try to place him.

I wonder if he doesn’t become the first guy to take a cap percentage deal. Maybe the deal is 15% of the cap total as base salary, with an additional signing bonus of 50M for 5 years. That makes him approximately 40M average, BUT insulates him against the cap going crazy and he gets jack ***** and the Bills against the cap falling and having to cut everyone around him.

I don’t really care. He’s fine, but honestly wouldn’t even know if he was on the roster or not.

Let me simplify it, Josh is still a question as to what guy is showing up. Those guys are ALWAYS expected to bring it. At no point in any game is the opponent not fearful they will snap out of it and beat them. When Josh goes into a funk, he’s not much of a threat. Yes, everyone has bad games and the team around you will obviously have a big impact on your opportunity to win. Yes, last year the Bills were in a lot of game despite Allen having a bad game, that’s because they had one of the best defenses in the league, he had a chance to win a lot of those games and unfortunately didn’t turn it on in time in most of them. This year he has raised his game. There’s no longer a question if he’s a top 15 guy, he is. On his best day he’s a top 3 guy, on his bad day he’s below average. He’s had many more games towards the good end of that, but still put up a good number of stinkers too. So until he can consistently bring it, week in and week out and it becomes an exception that he has an average day, he is not in the league of the Maholmes, Brady etc.

Literally listed the guys out in the post.

In the context of the game, it was a good move. He didn’t need to take a hit and risk injury. If you were behind or in the playoffs, maybe it’s a different story. At this point in the year, get what you can without getting killed on virtually every play. Wrs are some of the smallest guys on the field, have to have their health to be effective and really need to limit their damage. I would encourage all the guys on our team to take the same approach when there is little chance to win. A guy like Knox, Davis, Kroft, Moss, who could lower the shoulder and potentially score in a one on one situation, go for it.

1) Drops 2) YAC 3) YPC Looking at metrics, he’s not producing outstanding results. Keep in mind Robert Foster would have been a top 5 WR for the last 6 games of 2018.

I would say on the whole yes, his floor is a top 15 guy for the season. On a game to game basis, he can really suck at times, and that’s where that floor has to be raised. His ceiling is non existent, there’s nothing stopping him from being the best ever, he’s got prototypical size, work ethic, personality, athleticism and one of the best arms to ever play in the NFL and what is proving to be good accuracy, which I didn’t know if we would ever be able to say. He just has to cut the games where he looks like the Miami version of Tannehill for a day. This season, there hasn’t been much of that, but he looked shell shocked in TN, KC he was off and got no help, and even the Jets game was not very good. The Pats game wasn’t great either, but he looked average against a team that has notoriously skull ***** the Bills, so hopefully he comes out swinging next game and declares their reign over. We saw a bad day from Russel Wilson and they put up 33 points. It was a bad day for Russ, no doubt, but it wasn’t a 30 point loss like we saw when TN knocked Josh off his game. That’s where the improvement has to come. The truly great ones, you expect dominance every game and fear them picking you apart. If you happen to slow them down enough to win, good job. There’s still a question of which Josh shows up today, that is the part that has to change. You want to know, that even on a bad day, your guy will keep you in the game and give the team a great chance to win. Brady, Rodgers, Breese, Wilson, Maholmes, Big Ben, if you get to the fourth quarter and are down 14 or less, you still believe you are firmly in it, even on a bad day. Josh is absolutely a guy that can be on that level, but has not quite put his bad day floor that high yet.

The next time that guy is right about anything, call me.

He’s changed my mind this year. I really didn’t think he could take the next step after watching all the terrible decisions last year. He’s had those intangibles all along and the team obviously loved him, but to see the leap he took this year where it’s all coming together for him, just awesome. I do think we are looking at a Big Ben type of guy here, first two years, nothing great (Ben was way more conservative), and as they get turned loose they just keep growing. Also, I don’t think Allen will ever be considered the best in the game, like Ben, but always a guy you would be happy to have and can definitely be a difference maker. He’s a franchise guy, no doubt. He’s going to rack up a lot of wins, throw for a lot of yards and leave you saying “wow” a lot, but he’s playing in the Maholmes era, probably never going to get the respect until he wins a title, by beating Maholmes to get there.

Man look at everything we could have had, what a shame.

I could see them dropping 3 of 4 just as easily as going 4-0 for the next 4. LA is in every friggin game, they will start winning some. The Broncos are streaky, never count them out, and the Bengals are actually pretty legit w Burrow.

How bou dah!

I need to know exactly what he’s costing me and he should be willing to take a little less for full guarantee. Everyone wins.

Looks like it

I mean, they were really out after 6 games, but if we needed to confirm it.. 3 more wins

I would not offer more than a 1 year 7M, fully guaranteed deal. Take it or leave it. He’s talented, but the injuries are more and more frequent, he’s undersized for the league and this is exactly why there is a prototype. He has not been able to shed the tag of too small, which only comes when you play big and don’t get hurt. I like him, he’s the best Lb on the squad, when healthy, but availability is just as big as talent.

Monday it was “QB Allen expected to have Ankle Surgery”. Today Sources: “Dallas’ Diggs broke foot out 4/6 weeks.” Gotta quit speed reading, it’s scaring the crap out of me.

I’m with you, they need to stay in attack mode, no pansy @$$ run, run, pass punt nonsense.

Go back to school Trevor! Lol

I don’t think he fills much of a need and I don’t really think he’s worth the headache. I’d bet he clears waivers, then probably heads to SF, they need help due to injuries.

The cap is expected to shrink next year. Teams that have huge contracts for 1 to 2 players are going to have a lot of turn over this coming offseason. The Chiefs will definitely be one of them, lots of mega deals handed out without concern of the cap ever shrinking. You should/almost have to see teams like the Chiefs, Cowboys, Rams, etc dumping a lot of talent to fit under the cap and in a lot of cases it’s really going to sting because they have so many big contracts that’s are immovable. They will have to gut the roster of role players all over the place because cutting the big names will save little if anything for them. to the OP, the window gets tighter as soon as the rookie deal is off. That said, the one thing Beane did that’s pretty genius, is sign a ton of contracts that end the same year as Allen’s rookie deal. Basically, he freed up a ton of cap space for Josh is that was the right way to go, or to dump everything and start over if Josh washed out. I think it’s pretty safe to say, barring injury, Josh is going to get PAID. He looks the part of a franchise guy, and has drastically brought down the level/number of mistakes/issues that made everyone question of that was the case.

Bradshaw is, was and always will be a joke. His comments pre-game yesterday proved that. No consideration of the weather, game plan, etc. , just Josh Allen is back to his old form, inaccurate blah blah blah. I have dealt with a shoulder injury, not claiming to be any sort of expert, but it screws with everything you do, much less trying to go out and play QB in the NFL. I have no inclination to think it didn’t have an effect on him throwing the ball. All that said, Josh had a really good day yesterday and yes it came against a poor D, but he actually executed. He missed one play where the announcers pointed out he had a chance to go to Beasley underneath and get a first down and I don’t recall who it was, but on the same side of the field there was a guy who was open deep. He hesitated and got taken down and the series was over. That was about the only “bad” play he had. Yesterday was very encouraging. Next week the D will be much stronger, hopefully he brings the same game and can put up points again. Also for the love of God I hope they spy Murry, he’s obnoxiously fast.

Josh looked like he was playing in practice out there, it was unbelievably easy in the first quarter. The one thing I’m happy about is they didn’t take a 14pt lead and pack it in and decide to run the clock out. Seattle would have beaten them if they had. It was about time for this O to go into attack mode and not back out of it.

Ya only 12 yards wide was way better.