DCofNC

A lot of homerism here. Mayfield has shown it in college and last year as a rookie, he works hard, has a great arm, can make plays on the run, generally makes good decisions with the ball and WINS. The media got behind him and the Browns, now we have a bunch of people trying to poke holes in him and say Allen is better. Last year we heard from everyone that Allen's line was the issue, but we're willing to ignore the issues Cleveland is having now when looking at Mayfield. We heard Josh has "it" and finds a way to win, no matter how ugly, what was the outcome of the game people are freaking out over? Every week the excuses come in for Josh missing guys that are open. Brown was wide open, for a td, but who cares? We scored on that drive anyway. Mayfield misses OBJ once and now he is innacurate. The offense sputters here and they are still needing time to "gel", forget that for Cleveland. C'mon guys, judge with the same standards and quit trying to feel like your qb is clearly better because you are tired of hearing about Cleveland. Most of you sound like jealous school girls defending your boyfriend. As it stands, Allen has had a mediocre game that nobody wants to talk about because it was a win and a solid game. He made improvement from last year, thus far. He was still picked 7th overall, its not like he should be getting a pass for not playing well, the team invested a FORTUNE to draft him, he better be good. Mayfield had a far superior rookie season and started off this year with a pretty mediocre game one, against a team that didn't suck so much they allowed him to recover. Then had an average game, where he shockingly beat the ***** out of the same team Allen barely scraped by in his mediocre game. Let's breath a second and realize they are both young, both have new weapons and both were high draft picks with lofty expectations. Both are going to wow you at times and both are going to suck at times. It's nice that Allen has picked things up and is progressing. Mayfield will be fine too.

I love the "pay Tre" logic. Tre is good, not elite, you just don't get better by not trying.

I hate to say it, but id do it. He's one of, if not the best in the game right now and offenses are passing more than ever, if you want to win this year, the path is through NE. The O is going as far as Allen does, period. Theres nothing thats going to magically make him better, other than time. The D needs help to be elite, this guy is an ass, but hes good. Bring him in, pay him, set it up to be out of the deal cleanly in 3 years. Check that ranking after the Pats game. Brady will drop 150 and 2tds on Wallace alone.

The Steelers could well pick in the top 10, what a ***** trade. When I first saw Fitzpateick to them, I really thought it was Ryan, that would make sense.

I think Lamar will crash and burn when teams follow the blueprint we saw in the playoffs. As of right now, I can't say Rudolph is better than anyone after less than a game.

Lets be real here.. who has something to prove, last year's SB team or the 6-10 team? It will be an indication of how much the Bills have closed the gap, but by no means are the Patriots worried about that game. I would go so far as to say that game doesn't mean much for either team, both want to win, but its game 4 of a long season. It will be a bit of a measuring stick for the Bills, hopefully they compete or win.

I actually think Arizona is a better team then either the Jets or Giants, but the Ravens got them at home, so thats a little break in the right direction for them. The Ravens are NO Where near as good as people have them rated. They got Miami good.. could have easily lost to Arizona... they are going to get rocked seceral times this year. The bluprint is out there, stop the run, make Jackson beat you through the air. Score points early and they can't come back.

I think the Giants have a couple of chances to Win, the Jets look to be in trouble. I'm rooting for them tonight, Cleveland is way more talented and a much bigger threat to take a playoff spot. I wouldn't be shocked to see the Jets get blown out or come out and win, tough to guess which teams will show up.

I don't like them less because they were against those teams, the Jets is a big win for playoff hopes, so freebie or not, you need it. Making sure the AFC record is good is going to be a big factor in the wildcard. The Patriots get the same games, I'll chalk thise up for wins for them too. Until the Bills beat the Pats, I'm not convinced they are in the same conversation, so to me, the Bills are playing for WC. The good part, the other divisions are more competitive and SHOULD beat up on each other more. That could be a huge help in tie breakers. The schedule is actually setting up well for the Bills this year. Realistically, they should have 5 AFC wins pretty easily between the Jets, Phins and Cincinnati is not looking good. They have some work to do elsewhere, but nobody outside of the Pats stands out as an unbeatable team. The Pats could fall, but its asking a lot.

To be completely fair and honest, its hard to find an easiernstartnto this season than the one the Bills got. Quite honestly, the first 3 games may very well end up being 3 of the top 6 draft spots.

The Steelers might be alright with Rudolph, he was a solid prospect coming out, he did pretty well yesterday. The Saints better throw Hill in if its going to be long without Breese. I get that Teddy is the more accomplished player, but my gawd he was awful yesterday. If Hill is what Payton thinks he is, its time to see it, if not, they are staring a top 10 pick in the face if Breese is out for the year. Not meaningfully.

Ford can road grade, I'm just not sure he has the feet to be outside. Normally, I'd say "kick him inside and let him play guard", but at the moment, the best player on the OL is manning RG, so you would have to flip him to LG and Spain hasn't deserved a demotion either. Hopefully, he can pick it up and prove he can pass block. If they can't stop a blitz/alow it to shut down the O, they will be getting blitzed all year. You know the Pats wont be scared to let it fly, they have DBs they trust, it could be ugly if they don't figure it out soon.

Yeah, looked like a garbage call, Morse is still having a few little issues, but no TC doesn't help that.

I noticed it as well, Sammy was the last guy you truly had to respect. It was nice to see.

Should be somewhere around 240, but that over throw cost him. He's off to a really nice start this year.

His entire college career was blocking, he also happens to be fast and has potential to be a pass catcher, hence he was a lower pick. He's really good at blocking and missed a perfect throw, so which is he really?

How can anybody give that an A? Maholmes put up better numbers by half time. THAT'S what an A looks like. I have it somewhere around a B minus. His innacuracy on a handful of throws cost points. His ability to step up and make some great throws was alos hard to miss. The execution in the second half played a big part in the slowing down, missed opportunities killed drives more than conservative play calls. I do want to see them come out with a killer mentality and absolutely pour it on a team, theres no prize for being nice, go build confidence and WIN a game, instead of being happy the other team didn't.

He's still pretty inconsistent, which one would hope he can clean up. That ball to Smoke was just awful. The McKenzie catch was more than a lot high, and the missed ball to Zay would have been a big play. He's threading some needles and missing water falling out of a boat in the same series at times, I don't know what to think of it. The accuracy thing will follow him until he does what La?ma?... sorry threw up in my mouth twice.. until he can do what Lamar Jackson is doing. Jackson is hitting wide open guys as they jog into the endzone. I wouldn't trade QBs, but thats what is inflating Jackson's stats. Its the simple things that hes doing and Josh still seems to miss all too often.

This line is VASTLY better than last year, but still is struggling quite a bit. Morse has had some penalties, I'll credit more to just getting going in the season.. Dawkins, Ford, Nseke have struggled quite a bit. Spain has been solid Feliciano has been a REALLY great signing. The tackles worry me. They aren't turnstiles like we have seen in captain wind Mills, but certainly not playing to the level they need to in pass pro.

Yeldon and Gore are similar in terms of running style, I think they'd bring back Perry possibly to be a DS stop gap. Gordon is not worth a high pick and 14M a year.. hes good, but i honestly dont think he is great.

Tom Brady in his prime couldn't win with that team. The quicker Fitz gets out the better.

Foles just became a backup again.

Have at it.

Most likely accurate, but he could damn near firce his way out if he really wanted to. It would be hard to believe they would trade him in division, but you never know, a pick is a pick and Buffalo's will probably be higher than most teams that would take the shot.

To recap what I have seen here as a lot of valid points: He's been hit A LOT in a relatively short career, but 8 years of beatings are no joke. He was never labled an elite passer, good at best. He doesn't appear to have his legs under him right now. If they are done, so is he. If hes just getting back in shape because he missed a ton of time with the shoulder, he may be fine. The shoulder... we aren't doctors, but is he full strength? For me it comes down to seeing if he can get his legs back under him, if he can, he'll be ok. If not, he is done. How long it takes the Panthers to admit it/ be able to do anything about it are the real questions. Rosen might be available ?