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LOL - Tyler Bass in the last round. Allen was taken one spot before I was going to take him, Diggs went in the 2nd round and the Bills D went in the 5th.

In revisiting what Buffalo gave up and Minnesota received in exchange for Diggs it actually looks worse for the Vikings now than just the production the Bills are getting. The first turned out to be Justin Jefferson who, it's very early, has 5 catches for 70 yards through two games. They traded the 5th round pick (which Buffalo got for Wyatt Teller) for '21 4th round pick and traded the lower of Buffalo's two 6th round picks (also acquired for Teller) to Baltimore for #225 in the 7th which they used on Kenny Willekes who is spending the year on IR and a 5th in '21. So basically they got nothing out of it this year except potential in Jefferson and a couple of late picks next year they hope they can hit on for depth.

If he keeps up this pace he'll finish the regular season 456 of 648 for 5832 (breaking Manning's record by 355 yards) and 48 TDs to go with 144 carries for 600 yards and 8 TDs which would mean he'd have 56 total TDs (breaking Manning's single season TD record by 1).

Allen still has a slight lead over Wilson VOTE!!!

In the stadium you are forced shoulder to shoulder. In a space like this you can stay separate and still enjoy cheering and the game. As for December? Whats the difference if you tailgate in OP or at the drive-in and then go to your metal seats or sit on a folding chair with the option to jump in your car at any time and warm up while still hearing the broadcast and watching the game?

That's true - they did the scouting and but it's believed McDermott ran the draft. One theory, that runs in line with that is Whaley was fired hours after the draft concluded is that the decision had been made much earlier but Whaley was kept on board so he couldn't share his scouting reports and the Bills draft plans with another organization.

I measure it a couple ways. The first is they traded Wyatt Teller, who they drafted at 166 in the 5th, and a 2021 7th round pick to Cleveland. In return they got the 155th and the 188th pick in this draft they used on Bass. The day after trading Teller they traded Russell Bodine for a 6th round pick for the 207th pick (who they used on Hodgins). That trade allowed them to send the 201st pick along with the 155th and their first round selection to Minnesota and still retain picks (Bass and Hodgins ) in the 5th and 6th rounds. The actual then turned out to be the 22nd, 155th and the 201st pick - a value of 820 points plus (assuming the Bills have a season at least equal to this past) a 4th next year which would be worth between 44 and 58 points making the total 864 to 878 points - less roughly 7 points for the 7th round pick they got in addition to Diggs. So lets just call it 870 points traded which is worth roughly the 19th pick - depending on the chart could be 18th but most show 19th. In other words they gave up enough draft capital to move up 3 spots. Options? Arnette, Reagor, Chaisson, Jefferson plus obviously the others taken after 22. Great value for a proven receiver who can run any route, catch contested balls and be a deep threat. A Swiss army knife on the outside. The other thing I look at is the league isn't going to have a regular off season by any means. Now Beane has not only used that draft pick value on a proven commodity but also one that won't have a learning curve and won't be hurt as much going to a new team as rookie would be. That - when the window for this team is now - is HUGE!! I didn't even discuss having one of the top 5 WRs in the league with an average cap hit of under $12 million per year for the next for year which puts him 18th in the league. Again - great value filling a need!!

I understand Whaley was still in Buffalo but it's widely believed McDermott was the one to call in the shots especially because the draft ended Saturday night around 7pm and his firing was announced around 8:30 am the next morning.

First let me say I loved the Bills draft for the 4th consecutive year Have there been some hiccups? Sure Zay Jones in the 2nd and Nathan Peterman However, trading back and getting Tre' at 27th? Drafting Dawkins as a LT at the end of the 2nd when many projected him and the NFL draft site still lists him as a guard. How about Matt Milano a converted safety to play OLB in the 5th? Sure Allen and Edmunds were both 1st round picks but what about Phillips, Johnson and Neal in the 3rd, 4th and 5th respectively? Weber State, Jacksonville State? Are you kidding me!!! We have just started to scratch the surface of 2019's class but Oliver and Ford are top line prospects that grew as the season went on. I loved Singletary in the 3rd because I had the pleasure of watching him for 3 years at FAU and not only was 2017 magical because it seemed every time he touched the ball he scored but I also knew he was a better pass catcher than people were led to believe because of what he did his freshman year total catches wise and ypc his sophomore year. Knox barely had a college career as a receiving TE but they found him also in the 3rd - Joesph, Johnson and Johnson we'll see about but all have great upside. Sweeney? Solid when his number has been called - not bad for the 7th. That brings me to this year and looking at the value using the CBS Sportsline rankings. First up Epenesa. They had him ranked as the 34th overall and 4th DE. They get him at 54 and as the 5th DE selected. 20 spots and 1 spot of value Third round pick Moss was ranked 82nd overall and 6 RB. They got him at 86th as the 9th RB selected. 4 spots and 3 spots of value Their fourth round selection of Davis gave them the 119th overall and 20th ranked WR at 128th overall and as the 17th receiver off the board. Plus 9 spots in value overall and minus 3 by position Jake Fromm - the 167th selection and the 8th QB selected was ranked 123rd overall and as the 7th QB according to them. A 44 spot value overall and 1 in the QB rankings Tyler Bass was taken 188th but he was the 207th ranked player and the top kicker. So on overall value they lost 19 spots but gained one by position. Oregon State product Hodgins was ranked 129th overall and as the 23rd receiver. They stole him at 207 and as the 30th pass catcher!! 78 spots overall and 7th in his group. Finally we have Dane Jackson - the 239th selection and 25th CB selected. The crew at CBS had him at 138th overall and the 18th ranked CB!! 101 spots later and 7 spots lower So what's this all mean? Well looking at this draft the Bills took players that gave them a total of 256 spots worth of value overall not including Bass but including him 237 spots of value. I don't think anyone could say they reached or didn't receive value. Only Davis was ranked in his position group lower than where he was taken but he was still selected 9 spots after his overall ranking matching the value for the spot. I went back and looked at the previous 3 drafts. This is a theme. They get more overall and positional value than their selection spots and don't reach

Yes - there is supposed to be a video camera set up to "look-in" and do interviews with

One thing I'm not seeing in there is the camera set up. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought all GMs were required to have a camera so the NFL TV coverage could do look-ins and they could do interviews with the GM Unless of course he's just going to use the one on his laptop

One IT specialist is allowed in the decision-maker's home but he/she will not be in the draft room unless called in to address an issue.

Sorry but I have 3 that are well known and 2 that I don't believe are as well known Chase Claypool WR - Notre Dame Cam Akers RB - FSU Bryan Edwards WR - South Carolina Javelin Guidry - CB - Utah Kindle Vildor CB - Georgia Southern (Personally I would LOVE THIS PICK!!)

I did two drafts and I like the one on Pro Football Focus better 54 - Yetur Gross-Mantos Edge - Penn Stat 86 - Cam Akers RB - FSU (I had my choice of Akers or Zac Moss) 128 - Bryan Edwards WR - South Carolina 167 - Javelin Guidry - CB - Utah 188 - Tyre Phillips OT - Mississippi State 207 - Shaquille Quarterman LB - UM 239 - Kindle Vildor CB - Georgia Southern (Personally I LOVE THIS PICK!!) When I did The Draft Network it fell this way 54 Clyde Edwards-Helaire , RB LSU 86 Darrell Taylor , EDGE Tennessee 128 Gabriel Davis , WR UCF 167 Javelin Guidry , CB Utah 188 Tanner Muse , S Clemson 207 Antonio Gandy-Golden , WR Liberty 239 Trey Adams , OT Washington

No I hadn't seen it - pretty funny they wrote the same thing though. Ok and case people doubt I saw that article first - I posted this thread roughly 10:30am and that article was posted 1pm

The reason I started after week 4 is because after those four weeks plus the 12 weeks he played last year it gave him a full 16 games worth of games. Typically, it's said a QB's growth truly starts in season 2 of their career. Oh and BTW the 2nd QB is none other than Tom Brady - that gives me hope for how Josh and the offense has developed PLUS that the Bills may have finally started to close the gap on the Pats

I took a look at Josh Allen and compared him to another, potentially playoff bound, QB since week 4 of the season - over the last 6 games. Here's how they stack up and wondering what you think about it and not only his chances but the Bills chances going forward this season of being successful both during the regular season plus the playoffs and who you'd rather have right now Allen: 112 completions against 186 attempts for 1272 yards, a 60.2% completion rate, 6.83 yards per attempt, 10 TDs vs 1 Interception, a QB rating of 96.44. Additionally, 43 rushes for 200 yards a 4.65 ypa average and 4 TDs QB: 166 completions against 257 attempts for 1691 yards, a 64.6% completion rate, 6.57 yards per attempt, 7 TDs vs 4 Interceptions, a QB rating of 85.92. Additionally, 8 rushes for 5 yards a 0.63 ypa average and 2 TDs Personally, in spite of all of the detractors out there I think he's playing pretty good ball with better ball ahead of him which bodes well for him and the rest of the season and hopefully postseason

Must signings: LB Lorenzo Alexander - 1 year cap friendly deal DT Jordan Phillips OL Quentin Spain CB Levi Wallace 2020 Free Agents: CB Tre’Davious White* - 5th year option but try to get a deal done - will save on cap space and not risk him getting to free agency LB Matt Milano OL Dion Dawkins - try to extend ahead of time S Jordan Poyer - try to extend ahead of time OG Jon Feliciano Would like to resign: DE Shaq Lawson RB Frank Gore CB Kevin Johnson WR Isaiah McKenzie 2020 Free Agents: DL Trent Murphy S Jordan Poyer OT Ty Nsheke OG Jon Feliciano

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Jones was targeted 102 times last season and had 2 drops Foster was targeted 44 times and had 2 drops Beasley was targeted 87 times by Dallas last year and had 2 drops Brown was targeted 97 times in Baltimore and dropped 6 McKenzie saw 30 targets with 1 drop Roberts targeted 18 times dropped 1

I was looking at a couple of things when it comes to "Winning the Draft' Using CBS Sportsline overall rankings: Ed Oliver – ranked 4th picked 9th – plus 5 Cody Ford – ranked 16th picked 38th – plus 22 Devin Singletary - ranked 76th picked 74th – minus 2 Dawson Knox – ranked 92nd picked 96th – plus 4 Total value so far – plus 29 No other team is plus 20 As for just positional rankings: Ed Oliver - 2nd ranked DL - 2nd picked - plus 0 Cody Ford - 4th ranked OL - 8th picked - plus 4 Devin Singletary - 4th ranked RB - 5th picked - plus 1 Dawson Knox - 5th ranked TE - 8th picked - plus 3 Again - value for the spots ranked upon position.

Absolutely LOVE this pick!!! I watch a lot of FAU football both on TV and in person and this guy can move!! There is a cliche about making someone miss in a phone booth but for him that's reality!! Every team in the conference knew he was going to get that ball, get it a lot and stacked their defense to stop him but couldn't allowing him to average 6 yards a carry. He hasn't got the fastest straight line speed but with the separation he creates by getting defenders off balance and then miss it doesn't matter. He also isn't the biggest back but he's damn tough. Plus big hits in spite of his 700+ carries? They didn't happen!!! BTW his 1.74 rushing TDs per game? Behind only Steve Owens of Oklahoma in '67, '68 and '69, Ed Marinaro of Cornell in '69, 70, and '71, and Marshall Faulk in '91, '92 and '93 oh and Faulk? 5'9" 210 - Singletary 5'7' 205 The one knock on "Motor" I would say is he didn't catch the ball a lot out of the back field but that was mostly because Kiffen's offense targeted him less and less each year. Not because he couldn't catch.

Ed Oliver - John Randle Cody Ford - Brandon Brooks Devin Singletary - McCoy Dawson Knox - Kyle Rudolph

How about it's an upgrade and cost savings while letting them prepare for the future? Gore even at his current age ran for 722 yards on 156 attempts last season averaging 4.6 yards per carry plus added another 124 yards on 12 catches (16 targets) As opposed to Ivory who ran the ball 115 times for 385 yards averaging 3.3 yards per carry and had 13 catches (21 targets) for 205 yards. Gore signed for 1 year $2 million - Ivory is slated to count for roughly $2.9 million against the cap this year and if released will only count for roughly 750k in dead cap money. Save some money - get a stop gap one year player and draft someone like Devin Singletary or Bucky Snell to develop for a year or two depending on Shady