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MVP: Patrick Mahomes Coach of the Year: Brian Daboll AP Assistant Coach of the Year: DeMeco Ryans Offensive Player of the Year: Justin Jefferson Defensive Player of the Year: Nick Bosa Offensive Rookie of the Year: Garrett Wilson Defensive Rookie of the Year: Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner FedEx Air Player of the Year: Joe Burrow FedEx Gound Player of the Year: Josh Jacobs Comeback Player of the Year: Geno Smith Salute to Service Award: Ron Rivera Walter Payton Man of the Year: Dak Prescott Captain Morgan Fan of the Year: Larry Bevans (Seahawks) Bud Light Bud Celly of the Year: Cincinnati Bengals Head & Shoulders Never Not Working Protection Play of the Year: George Kittle Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2023: see separate thread: Special tribute to Damar Hamlin:

Just now on NFL Honors in Phoenix: LB Zach Thomas OT Joe Thomas (first year of eligibility) DB Darrell Revis (first year of eligibility) DB Rhonde Barber DE/LB DeMarcus Ware Seniors: CB Ken Riley DE/DT Joe Klecko LB Chuck Howley Contributor: Coach Don Coryell ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following were finalists but did not make it: KR/PR/WR Devin Hester LB Patrick Willis S Darren Woodson CB Albert Lewis (final year of regular eligibility) DE Dwight Freeney (first year of eligibility) DE Jared Allen WR Andre Johnson WR Reggie Wayne WR Torry Holt OT Willie Anderson -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This thread is two weeks old, but I saw an article in PFT today about Travis Kelce, relevant to this thread: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/09/travis-kelce-why-am-i-always-open-andy-reid-baby/ "Travis Kelce: Why am I always open? Andy Reid, baby Why am I always open? I say it all the time: Andy Reid, baby. Big Red,” Kelce said. “He can dial stuff up at the right time, create some things at the right time, and then on top of that everybody’s doing their jobs. It’s not just a me go out there and get open type play. I’m sure you guys like to think that, but there’s a lot of madness to it, and there’s a lot of guys doing their jobs for the big picture. I’m fortunate that I’m playing here, for sure.” And then some good comments on a PFT article about stopping Kelce: "Hubris If I was a Chiefs fan, I’d be cringing. Philly needs to study the Pat Chung tape on Kelce." "I think the reason he’s always open is Mahomes ability to extend plays and make any throw on the field at the same time. As Kelce has said many times, once the play breaks down then he just needs to know based on the play call where they will likely be open space and get there asap and Mahomes will find him. The two of them have the Reid calling great plays etc, but they have the school yard game down to a science also. I agree with an above commenter that Philly should really study what Chung, Ninkovich and other Patriots did to stop Kelce using physicality, because that is one thing that has worked over the years." "For the life of me I’ve never understood why some defensive coordinator hasn’t taken a 3rd string TE and turned them into a Defensive TE. Preferably one who has played defensive in H.S. and/or College. The mismatches with slow LBs and undersized Safties always favors a Kelce or a Gronk." So it seems like Belichick was able to stop Kelce. I hope McD and Frazier can shut Kelce down in the future. Also, some funny comments about the KC offense being that of Reid, not Bienemy: "You mean it’s not Bieniemy? I thought Bieniemy was the genius. The Bieniemy head coach interview process. Q “How do you get Kelce open all the time?” A “You’ll have to ask Andy”" "Bieniemy next time he sees Kelce. “Bruh…little help, I’m trying to get a HC gig…”"

There needs to be a "confused" icon in the choices for reactions. 😃

Your English is excellent! Is English part of the school curriculum there? I know it was for my mom, who grew up in Taiwan.

I remember when only 5 teams per conference qualified for the NFL playoffs (3 division winners and 2 wild cards). A division title meant an automatic bye (but not necessarily a home game). Also remember the old NBA mini-series (best of 3) in the first round. In MLB, there was once only 2 division winners per league qualifying for the playoffs and no inter-league play. 20-game-win pitchers were more common. Some teams had two. How things have changed. As for the NHL, I liked it when there was the Adams Division, Patrick Division, Norris Division, and Smythe Division. And Prince of Wales and Clarence Campbell Conferences. Why did they have to ruin a good thing? [Side note: a good mnemonic I used to remember the conferences was the Edmonton Oilers had the same name as the Houston Oilers, who had Earl Campbell. Thus, Edmonton was in the Campbell Conference.]

Just post a link to that post here so anyone can read it if they so desire. No need to bump.

Someone laughed at this post. Hope it was a mis-press.

Way too early. Anything said here is just wild guesses. Let's wait until tags, tenders, free agency, trades, the draft, front office changes, etc. are completed.

These are good points, but I am wondering is there a contradiction here, or can these both be true? Also, what can McBeane learn from the Patriots? Find a way to get the most out of players and play better situational football? Don't spend top dollars on free agents (like Von??) Build up your offensive line?

Ok, the Pats wee the victim here. The NFL is rigged then. Take this whining to the Pats board. I thought you were a good poster.

I just can't see Tampa Bay drafting a QB in the first round when they still have Kyle Trask, who was drafter number 33 overall in 2021. [Also, learned something new today: "junior" is abbreviated "jnr" in British English!]

I hate so say it, but KC 34-Philly 19.

Draft mock: https://thedraftnetwork.com/2023-nfl-mock-draft-trades/amp/ Cincinnati trades Tee Higgins, 2023 1st (no. 28 overall), 2023 2nd (no 59 overall), and 2024 3rd for Chicago's 2023 2nd (no. 2 overall), and drafts Will Anderon, Jr., Edge from Alabama: "With potentially monstrous new contracts on the horizon for Joe Burrow and Ja’Marr Chase, something has to give. In this case, it means Tee Higgins can’t get the deal he deserves in Cincinnati and asks for a trade. The wide receiver and draft-pick-needy Bears are willing to move back, pick up picks, and add a superstar pass-catcher for Justin Fields. The Bengals give up their second-round pick and a 2024 third-rounder that could get replaced with a Jessie Bates III comp pick. As for who the Bengals take here, why not select arguably the best overall player in the class to help the defense excel? While this doesn’t fill a major need yet, there’s no such thing as having too many pass rushers. The hypothetical of Anderson Jr., Sam Hubbard, and Trey Hendrickson all wreaking havoc together only aids Cincinnati’s Super Bowl aspirations. The Bengals get a rare opportunity to add an elite draft talent despite being a Super Bowl contender."

It's really way too early to make QB comparisons, or team comparisons, saying we are the Colts or whoever.

The NFL generally doesn't like scheduling an inter-conference matchup to start the season unless it really has no better choice. And I think the nation is sick of us, judging by tweets and posts in other forums/articles. Half this forum is too, lol. And because the Hamlin thing, I guarantee you us at Cincy won't be primetime either. They will stick it at 1 PM.

Ugh, this board has been hard to read for the last week 5 days. The debate about what to do after such a promising start this season (we were favored in each of our 19 games) is going to go on forever. Whatever the case, this is going to be a long off-season. Can September start soon enough?

For those who didn't want to click on the article link, here is the tweet:

Charges will be dropped Friday:

Wow...thank you for this great post outlining your experiences in the SB! I can tell you put a lot of thought into it. Also, I am sorry for your health issues. I hope it works out for you. [Many people here really want the Bills to finally win one before...well...you know.] You have great memorabilia. I never even knew SkyBox printed cards live! You are very kind to offer them. And I wonder how much that OJ jersey is worth now, given his crimes. He was really popular, along with Paul McGuire, back in those days, being on NBC. Both were Bills homers, and I loved it. And Hillary's look back in those days was popular. Later, the first name "Hillary" fell out of popularity for baby names though, as did "Monica". As for Pasadena, yes, it is beautiful. I only passed though there once while traveling, but it was gorgeous.

Yeah, because it was an important date in Bills history. You can't just filter out all the bad stuff, as much as I want to.

[I didn't see this posted elsewhere.] Jan. 16: Deadline for college underclassmen to enter 2023 NFL Draft. Jan 28: NFLPA Collegiate Bowl (Pasadena, Calif.) February 2: East-West Shrine Bowl (Las Vegas) February 4: Senior Bowl (Mobile, Ala.) February 5: Pro Bowl Games (Las Vegas, Nev.) February 9: NFL Honors (Phoenix, Ariz.) February 12: Super Bowl LVII (Glendale, Ariz.) February 25: HBCU Legacy Bowl (New Orleans, Louis.) February 21-March 7 at 4 PM ET: Teams may use the franchise or transition tag on impending unrestricted free agents. February 28-March 6: NFL Scouting Combine (Indianapolis, Ind.) March 7: Colleges may begin hosting pro days. Workouts of a school's Pro Day-eligible players with players outside of the scheduled Pro Day activities are prohibited. Private dinners, meetings, interviews are permitted. March 7 - April 19: Draft-Eligible Facility Visits Begin. Clubs permitted 30 non-local players for physical exams/visits; no on- field workouts. March 7 - April 26: Video or telephone interviews with draft-eligible players begin. Three video or telephone interviews per player; no longer than one hour in length. March 13 (noon) through March 15 (3:59 p.m.): Clubs may enter contract negotiations with impending unrestricted free agents. Contracts may not be executed until the start of the new league year at 4 p.m. on March 15. March 15 (prior to 4 p.m.): Clubs must submit qualifying offers to restricted free agents. If a qualifying offer is not extended, those players will become unrestricted free agents at the start of the new league year. March 15 (prior to 4 p.m.): All teams must be under the 2023 salary cap. March 15 (4 p.m.): The 2023 NFL league year begins. Unrestricted free agent contracts and trades agreed to prior to the start of the new league year can be executed. Trading period begins. March 26-29: Annual League Meeting (Phoenix, Ariz.) [including head coaches picture] April 3: Clubs that hired a new head coach after the 2022 regular season may begin offseason workout programs. April 17: Clubs with returning head coaches may begin offseason workout programs. April 19: Deadline for clubs to time, test, visit, interview or conduct a physical examination with a draft- eligible player at its club facility. April 21: Deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets. April 26: Deadline for prior club to exercise Right of First Refusal to restricted free agents. April 27: Deadline for clubs to time, test, visit, interview (including video and phone calls) or conduct a physical examination with a draft-eligible player at any location. April 27-29: NFL Draft (Kansas City, Missouri) May 1: Deadline for Clubs to exercise Fifth-Year Option for players selected in the first round of the 2020 Draft. May 5-8 or May 12-15: Clubs may elect to hold their one three-day post-Draft rookie minicamp from Friday through Sunday or Saturday through Monday on one of the two weekends following the Draft. TBD this spring: 2023 NFL Schedule release [this occurred May 12 of last year] May 15: Rookie Football Development Programs begin. May 22-24: Spring League Meeting. July 15 4 PM ET: Deadline for tagged players to negotiate and complete a multi-year contract extension. Once that date passes, the player must play the upcoming season on a one-year contract, though there are no restrictions to how much or little compensation the player can receive. [compiled from various sources: https://www.colts.com/news/2023-important-nfl-offseason-dates-combine-free-agency-draft https://www.giants.com/news/important-nfl-dates-to-know-2022-2023-free-agency-draft-new-league-year https://www.nfl.com/news/12th-annual-nfl-honors-date-time-location-how-to-watch-and-more https://footballscoop.com/news/2022-nfl-head-coaches-class-photo] https://www.spotrac.com/news/2023-tag-values-candidates-1768 [For memories, this was the head coaches picture at the annual meeting last year in March:]

"Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” -- Winston Churchill