Phil The Thrill

Most QB’s are better as Juniors or Seniors than they are as freshmen. I don’t think you can fault the OC....well, maybe you can if you have an agenda. Yes the NFL is an old boys network full of nepotism. That’s for sure. But it’s also a production business and if you don’t have value, you don’t often get a chance to be a coordinator.

He’s getting one more year to get it right.

Flawed logic - Anderson was a Pro Bowl QB for 1 year and has struggled as a starter for years after Daboll was fired. Seems to me that’s on outlier. Why do bad teams hire Daboll? Probably because he knows offense and has proven to know how to design an effective running game despite poor QB performance. If he’s so bad, why would one of the greatest college coaches ever hire him? After all, it’s not like his offense ever won a national championship

But that lack of awareness is al Daboll’s fault. It can’t possibly be on the QB

Are you sure because it looked like it was #39 in coverage

This is a great way to cherry pick stats to spin a narrative that Daboll is the problem and not his QB - who by the way is ranked toward the bottom of league for starting QB’s. You are looking at numbers that are out of context to show that Daboll sucks as an OC. While the overall rankings from Daboll are below average, much of this has to do with a passing game which has struggled. But guess what else is below average? The QB’s running that passing game. He has almost always inherited a bad football team with a less than average QB. The QB’s that he’s had to work with: Bruce Gradowski Derek Anderson Matt Moore Kyle Orton Josh Allen And look - if we’re talking numbers here, then Josh Allen is a below average in 2019. Do you honestly think that another OC would get anything more out of teams led by these QB’s? So if you have a QB that hasn’t shown the ability to be average, how can your passing offense be any better than....below average? When you look at his team’s rushing performance, I see offenses that usually finishes within the top 10 rushing offense. That tells me that Daboll isn’t completely ineffective as a playcaller. He just has never had anything better than average at QB. Currently he has below average. This post by @Virgil is again, more scapegoating on Daboll, without holding any accountability on the QB.

Looked like they tried a screen late in the game. Josh couldn’t get the ball over the defender and the pass was tipped. Again, the Bills Coaches are trying - the Execution usually isn’t there

Career years....and yet the offense struggles to score 20+ points a game. That’s worth nothing too

“Yesterday was a foundational shaking moment” Yep...sounds pretty rational

Antonio would look great in a Bills uniform when the long ball sails 20 yards over his head

Great minds think alike. I posted the same thread earlier:

Good point. The whole talk about “crusading” and “vendettas” go both ways

Do you think that Allen has the skills to properly utilize AB?

How much of the playcalling, the failure to score points, and the absence of a playmaker is a result of the limitations of the QB? It’s the chicken-egg theory. We’ll never know but we all have our opinions and mine rests on the fact that I think QB is the more pressing issue

I guess this topic deserves a new thread?

Funny how many picked KC-TEN or PIT -LAR or MIA-INDY as “obvious losses.” It doesn’t work that way

It has been discussed to death but If you think that Beane was involved in that decision than that says a lot.

adio.com/articles/opinion/bills-look-just-certain-2011-playoff-team I think the comparison to the 2011 is off base. While I don’t think that Allen has been good enough this season at times and that he has held back the offense, he is much better than Tebow. Almost all of Tebow’s offense came from his legs. He was averaging around 100 yards passing per game. They also were not scoring TD’s and kicked a lot of FG’s Also, unlike the Bills Denver had a kicker in Matt Prater who was kicking super clutch FG’s from 60 yards. Allen has generated a lot more offense and at times, he has put together some very nice scoring drives. Also Allen has done a pretty good job in the redzone. He has not been consistent and has disappeared in stretches nearly every game this year, which has been a huge issue. Joe does make a good point about Allen holding back the offense though. He’s not wrong here: Against a team of that caliber, a win required a strong 60-minute showing from every phases of the team. To expect a win against top talent, with no consistency in the passing game is a pipe dream. This is what I’ve been hammering on for a while. Unless the Bills get better QB play from Josh Allen, they won’t be able to consistently beat stronger teams in the NFL. Anytime you make this point, people claim you have a “vendetta” against Allen - but it’s a fact. Josh Allen simply needs to be better if the Bills are going to make the playoffs this year

They like Taron Johnson as the nickel CB. Yes Levi Wallace is better than Kevin Johnson. Go back and watch that beautiful pass that Mayfield lobbed to Landry. Johnson was in coverage. I don’t think having him start would make much difference

Just listened to the “Buffalo Beat” podcast and found this fact interesting. Since his days in Carolina, McDermott has used a defensive line rotation to frequently substitute players. I guess the idea is to keep players fresh. According to Joe B., Star Lotulelei and Jordan Phillps were on the field over 70% of the game. Ed Oliver and Corey Liuget were used sparingly. Ironically Buscaglia’s big point was that during the crucial moment of the game in the 4th, the Bills took Star off the field and replaced him with Liuget. That was the run where Nick Chubb dragged the Bills for 10+ yards I think that this move shows a few things: 1. The play on the Defensive Line vs the run is a major problem. While fans aren’t high on Star, he might be their best option at holding up the run. Things are so bad that McDermott is changing one of his main principles on defense. The problem isn’t a “quick fix” or a matter of adjusting a scheme etc. They don’t have the talent up front to be effective. 2. The team has little faith in Ed Oliver. On the Chubb run, rather than moving Phillips to 3 tech and putting Oliver in, they chose to go with Liuget - player who was signed 6 days ago. This has to be a tremendous disappointment for the Bills. Oliver was supposed to be someone who could help immediately. When you use a street free agent over your first round pick, it’s not a good sign.

An Offensive coordinator as a scapegoat for an underperforming QB and an offense who can’t score points? Hmmmm that sounds familiar

this is especially true on offense.

I agree to an extent. Yes I do think they are 1 year away but then again, it’s a down year for the AFC and the Bills have a pretty light schedule. In regards to the FG, people aren’t criticizing the fact that they kicked a FG on 4th down, it’s more the fact that they didn’t really try to score a TD. There was 1:00 minute left when they crossed the 50. Rather than trying to go for a score, they seemed ok with settling for a long FG with a shaky kicker like Hauschka who is not very good anymore.

So would generating more points on offense.

Your point on Lee Smith is fair. Way too many penalties every week. Was Levi Wallace picked on? Of course, but he wasn’t completely terrible either. I think he’s a decent starter at CB, though the Bills could always use an upgrade. In terms of Star - the Bills aren’t getting value out of that massive contract.