CincyBillsFan

Catches like that downfield at the boundary make a huge difference.

We need to see more catches like that by Bills WR's.

Very insightful - a great interview. It also reinforces my sense that we're looking at a very different Allen then the one we saw through the first 10 games. The whole concept of "low positive" is gone. I could be wrong but I doubt that Allen discovered that idea on his own. Low positive sounds like something the Bills organization introduced him to in their efforts to transform his style of play.

It's another reason to give Brady credit for this new and long overdue way to use Allen in an offensive game plan.

When I watch the highlights of Cooks big runs I often see one or even two Cowboys shadowing Allen even after he handed off the ball. The Cowboys really were terrified of Allen and overcompensated big time to contain him.

It's possible only those inside the building at One Bills Drive can say for sure.

I agree that Allen & Dorey were close and that Allen supported Dorsey being hired as OC. But IMO that is a long way from Allen demanding that Dorsey be hired. I believe that for a number of reasons this was Beans & McD's preferred option and decision The obvious things that I have seen are Allen's emotions under Dorsey and after Dorsey was fired. They have significantly changed as has his style of play. I read the transcript of the McD NFL channel interview and it was clear that McD was setting the strategic direction of the Bills offense and how Allen was expected to play going forward. In order for Bean to properly manage the Bills CAP (pushing Allen's money out) he would have been very supportive of this idea as he will increasingly depend on Allen having a long career (> 10 years) playing at an elite level. Again, I don't think McD was calling plays or sweating the details of each offensive game plan but by all accounts he was setting the strategic goals for the offense and those included curbing certain aspects of how Allen played the game. Dorsey was trying to execute against McD's strategic vision of how the Bills should play offense and handle Allen. My guess is that McD/Bean abandoned their restrictions on Allen running and other aspects of their offensive operation in the face of not making the playoffs and keeping their jobs. Perhaps Pegula played a role here? But even if their jobs were safe I credit McD & Bean to be astute enough to be flexible when it was obvious their goal for Allen & the Offense wasn't working.

That was my initial understanding to but the comments from McD during the pre- season and during the season made me think that McD wanted Dorsey and that Allen at most had veto power. This is a very different thing then Allen advocating for Dorsey. My sense from McD's comments is that he wanted an OC who was on the same page as he was with respect to how to use Allen and how the offense might compliment his defense. I believe that the clear change in Allen's playing style during this season when Dorsey was in charge, changes that were telegraphed by McD in interviews during the off season, was Dorsey trying to run the offense with McD/Bean demanding that Allen be exposed to less hits. After Dorsey was let go and Allen had one of his signature runs against the Jets he jumps up and screams enthusiastically "I'm f#### back!". It was clear to me that Allen was chaffing under the Dorsey/McD restrictions he was asked to operate under. We all saw that Allen was joyless and seemed to have the weight of the world on his shoulders trying to execute the O according to the McD/Dorsey plan. Then Dorsey is gone and McD has a come to Jesus moment and Allen is allowed to return to his old style of play and now he's smiling and acting like the Josh Allen of old. The evidence of this is plain to see and overwhelming.

Some context please - wasn't Allen and Dawkins the ONLY Bills players that were on the field for EVERY offensive snap in the sauna like conditions where almost every other Bills player spent time on the sideline suffering heat stroke? When Allen missed on that pass it was near the end of the game and one can only guess how little he had left in the tank at that point.

Actually that was not the narrative. The narrative was that among the top teams contending for a Super Bowl the Bills were deficient in their O line and play makers. That beyond Diggs the Bills had a lot of average to below average talent in the offensive skill positions. No one is calling an "average" NFL player a bum. But hen you compare the Bills WR group to say Miami's, or the Eagles, or Dallas or the 49's or the Bengals you get an idea of what the narrative was. The other part of the narrative was that the Bills focused a disproportionate amount of their FA resources and draft capitol over the last 5 years trying to build an elite D. This has led to what many of us think is a talent deficiency on the offensive side of the ball when COMPARED to other top playoff contenders.

Yep this is a great point. It's downright devious to fake like you're going to run a play knowing full well you're not going to run a play. How dishonest and unsportsmanlike can you get.

So spread out over 14 games the practical reality is that they all have about the same number of INT's.

Allen did not hand pick Dorsey to be the OC. At most he gave the thumbs up to the PROMOTION from within. Everything we've heard over the last month swirling around the McD controversy is that McD was the guy who most likely pushed for Dorsey to be promoted. He saw it as a chance to better coordinate his idea of the offense/defense playing complimentary football. And the Bills win's over Miami & KC were also signature wins.

But he is a bit of a turnover machine.

It's a lot less puzzling when you realize that they're not Bills fans but trolls looking for any angle, no matter how weird, to take a shot at Allen.

No this thread exposes the desperate lengths some posters on 2BD will go to throw shade at Allen. Of course when critiquing Allen over his "flops" is the best you guys can do then we know that Allen is playing great as are the Bills. BTW, I'm all for the flopping. How is Allen flopping any different then a defensive lineman who when being held throws his arms up in frustration begging the ref to throw the flag? This is the sentiment of a true Bills fan. Not sure where the complainers are coming from.

I disagree. Leading the AFC in total TD's would put him right in the mix of those three for the Pro Bowl. In fact it would be areal hard decision to exclude even one of Tua, Mahomes, Jackson & Allen. You can make a strong case for all of them.

In fact that throw should have been intercepted. It was a nice play but the effusive praise for Jackson there by Collinsworth/Tirico (play of the year!!!!) was way over the top. Allen makes guys miss in the backfield a couple times per game completing passes down field a lot less risky then that throw. Heck yesterday on the great catch by Diggs Allen shrugs off a blitzer and on the run gets the ball to Diggs.

Snapping the ball before they found out it was a fumble may have been the biggest under the radar play of the game.

To be fair he had two drops early and then the Bills just started running the ball down the Cowboy's throats.

And don't forget Davis losing the ball on that bomb. I've seen a lot of WR's this weekend that would have located and caught that ball. That exact throw is caught by an awful lot of NFL WR's.

What will it take for someone like Lawrence to take over the title of "turnover machine" that they hang on Allen? THREE INT's last week and what ever the hell that was. That was the worst lost fumble I've ever seen.

On several occasions I saw Cowboy defenders continue to focus on Allen even AFTER he handed the ball off. Quinn couldn't believe that Brady and the Bills would run the ball 5 times straight. Of course D coordinators are not going to let Cook and the Bills run the ball down their throats with 8 minute TD drives. But when they try to take away the run moving their safety to the line, watch out because Allen is going to cook. The Bills are rapidly approaching a pick your poison offense.

Yep, in today's games I've seen more great catches then I have from Bills receivers for the entire season. It really is noticeable.

Yea you're right here - my bad. I was going off my eye test and failing memory and the fact that Davis has had some games where he was targeted a lot and failed to catch many passes (3 games where he was targeted a total of 15 times with only 4 receptions). But as you correctly note there were also games where Davis was targeted a lot, caught a lot of those passes and was highly productive.