CincyBillsFan

Great win. the passing attack was out of kilter in the first half mostly due to mental mistakes: Dawkins on taking the outside blitzer and not the inside one; not lining up properly on a 3rd and short that Allen converted giving the Bills a first & goal; and a bad holding penalty. Looked better in the 2nd half. Cook was on fire in part because the O line blocked the run great and partly because the Panthers focused on stopping the Bills short passing attack and Allen runs. This is what complimentary football looks like. The D looked very good with the 2 suspended guys having a big impact. 55 was around the QB on almost every pass. Epenesa had a great game as did Poyner. The rookie was glued to the WR while in the game and had a great tackle where he closed the gap very fast. Oh and Bishop played very well.

I agree and Dalton isn't as mobile as Young.

Again this is post draft pick comments. What else would you expect Allen to say? After the pick. Allen has shown over and over again that he always can be counted on to say the right thing. And after Bean traded down with KC to get Worthy it was important that Allen show solidarity with the pick.

And your evidence that this mattered in Bean making the pick is? Sure AFTER they drafted Coleman word got out that Allen "wanted" Coleman. What else was Allen supposed to say? Now did Allen talk to McBean about getting a big physical WR that could open up the boundary and turn 50/50 balls into 80/20? That I could buy. But whether Bean traded the pick to sign a vet or move up in the draft as opposed to moving down to secure Coleman was all on Bean. There were a number of ways Bean could have secured what Allen likely expressed an interest in getting at WR.

What evidence do you have of this?

I think he would like to be WR rich.

This is a great point that I hadn't thought of before. And given McD's time as Head Coach and making the playoffs in 6 of the last 7 seasons the lack of a robust coaching tree is interesting. Outside of DaBoll has anyone else been a HC or long lasting Defensive or offensive coordinator?

Agree. Sure Allen has the occasional average or even poor game but he is so far from being the problem that it makes no sense to talk about it until the other problems are fixed. It's like your pipes burst in your house and your roof caves in but all you can talk about are the dandelions in the lawn.

The same could be said about Daniels in Washington.

If a player can mess up a crossbar dunking the ball I would consider finding a new manufacturer of goal posts. I think the dunk is cool, kind of like the Lambeau leap. It is not aimed at the other team and is visually interesting.

Why is that a penalty? It wasn't aimed at the other team all the Seahawk did was spike the football over the goal post. Does the NFL just like making up rules that will be broken so their refs can throw a flag?

Agree as Detroit challenged the wrong thing. What is the rule about if you challenge X and they see a clear cut Y? I thought, but could be wrong, that they only looked at what was challenged and if they see something else they are to ignore it?

It was close but also it was obvious that he didn't make the 1st down. The camera angle was perfect and if you extend a plane down from the ball it would not have touched the 41 yard line which was the line to gain. Had the not reversed what was an obvious bad spot by the refs things would have gotten very interesting in the Motor City.

It looks like if it was a catch he was short of the first down.

I think he was referring to contenders.

Wow, some great NFL officiating going on tonight.

The problem is that the same play will be called differently every week in the NFL. Remember the Drake Maye intentional grounding that wasn't called? Tonight they were sticklers for the rule and likely took Falcon points off the board. Tomorrow night they won't call it on an even worse violation.

Agree.

I am under no illusions that modern big time college football involves "student athletes". At minimum they are semipro players. My only point is that the quality of the college football is better then in the NFL. Not only are the games better but are often more exciting and feature huge rosters that lessons the devastation of injuries. Sorry but today was just another in a long line of Sunday's in which the NFL games sucked. I notice it more on weekends the Bills don't play as I'm not that invested in the outcome of these other games and just want to relax and watch some good football. On most Friday & Saturday's I can do just that with college football but it's a rare Sunday that the NFL delivers the goods.

You mistake disgust for being fired up. It was an observation of someone who shells out good money for the NFL ticket and loves football. IMO the NFL has several quality control problems ranging from the play to the officiating to undermanned, injury riddled teams trying to field "professional" rosters.

If the Bills falter and go int the toilet I will be doing just that. The college game is better: more interesting and entertaining. Heck, even High School football is more fun. Today's crap-fest of games has become the norm as undermanned, injury riddled rosters pretend to play "pro" football. My beef with college football was the whacked out "playoff" system but they're close to solving that. My guess is that we're within a couple of years of a 16 team college football playoff field.

I'm not sure it's rigged but it damn sure is a combination of gross incompetence and widespread inconsistency. It makes watching some of these games painful.

The NFL is hot garbage. Most of the games featured bad football from injury riddled undermanned rosters. And even the "exciting" games like Denver vs the Giants were only exciting to the extent that trash football, bad officiating and poor coaching is exciting. Compared to yesterday's slate of college games the NFL sucks. But hey, all is not lost as there are still a lot of South American & European city's that the league hasn't played a game in. And we can't forget that Bad Bunny is the SB halftime show. Seriously though, the league is crap and I would really be pissed off if we had nice weather today and I had wasted a day watching this S###!

It's beginning to look like 12 - 5 might be good enough to lock up home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

But it started and ended with the Bills having 2 highly productive, HOF game dominator's named Thurman Thomas & Andre Reed.