CincyBillsFan

But the 49's game was what has propelled Jackson into the lead with respect to MVP. And for the record you would have to know where the takeaways happened between the two teams to better see which QB benefited the most from the TO.

Agree and that was one of the biggest criticisms of Allen his first two seasons in the NFL. All we heard is how terrible it was that Allen kept dropping back in a futile effort to avoid a sack. A lot of folks on 2BD called that out as an example of Allen playing "hero ball" to the detriment of the team. Jackson does the exact same thing in his 6th year and all people can do is blame the ref. I wonder if the ref was caught by surprise that Jackson would do something as foolish and reckless as falling back 20 yards into his own end zone?

Yep and those short fields against SF brought to the Ravens by their D certainly helped Jackson's TD totals.

That would be true for Hurts who scores a lot of 1 yard tush push TD's but I believe more then half of Allen's rushing TD's were scored from more then 5 yards out.

But there is a hierarchy to how bad an INT is based on were on the field and under what circumstances it occurs. * Pick 6's are the worst kind of INT and Allen doesn't have one this season. * Red zone INT's (both in the opponents and in the Bills red zone) are very bad and Allen doesn't have one of those either. * 3rd down INT's thrown from your side of the 50 that end up on the opponents side of the 50 (arm punt) are not that bad. Also such things as average place on the field the INT occurs can define how bad the INT was. So far Allen's INT's, while more numerous then one would like, haven't been awful in their outcomes.

I had a slightly different take: Skippy kept his mouth shut because he knew Sherman was 100% right. Bayless may come across as a shrill Cowboy homer but he does know football enough to understand that Sherman was making a lot of sense.

Maybe they're not "fans" or maybe they're just overly invested in their negative takes on Allen from back in April 2018.

Like Allen had last season when he had the worst Guard play in the league and the RT was a turnstile. The WR group was so bad they had to bring Brown & Beasley back from their couches to play. And yet Allen led the Bills to a 13 - 3 season had 5045 total yards and 42 total TD's.

Cowherd put the Bills at #3 in his Herd hierarchy. The Ravens are #1 & the 49's #2. Nick Wright didn't like it.

I agree but an analysis of what got the team to the point they are is a criteria for MVP. Jackson has had a very good but not spectacular season and the Ravens success seems to be due more to their defense then offense.

And the Eagles almost gave away their game to the Giants at home with Hurts throwing a pick 6 while the Eagles were in the Giants red zone.

In their 2nd game against Cleveland the Ravens lost in large part due to Jackson who threw 2 INT's including a backbreaking pick 6. In their 17 - 10 loss to the Steeler's Jackson threw an INT, was tackled for a safety and lost a fumble without scoring a single TD himself. The Ravens were shut out in the 2nd half. So yea Jackson has had some clunkers that led directly to losses to.

Allen's TO's led to one loss IMO. Those other losses had other reasons for why the Bills lost.

Three of the four 49's losses have been to AFC teams. Unless the 49's were in the AFC South would they be playing for a wild card in the AFC?

Sometimes Shanahan outsmarts himself. He put the game in the hands of Purdy and we can see the result. Until next week or the week after. I've never seen such a topsy turvey NFL season like this one.

They should as a loss to Miami would jeopardize the #1 seed as both teams would have 4 losses and the fins would have the head to head.

The 3rd pick was a bad throw that Purdy tried to force into a covered WR. That was not the same as the 2nd pick whch was batted at the line and unlucky. But who cares, I don't remember people making excuses for Allen's picks when they were the result of a WR being out muscled for the ball or the ball going through the hands of a WR for a pick.

The talking heads are so impressed with the Jackson run and it was awesome. But in the end the Ravens had to settle for a 3rd FG.

Or they've padded their record feasting off NFC softies......

That Jackson run was special but they still didn't get into the end zone on that drive.

Judas Priest, the Allen is a TO machine narrative is dead.

Good question. One thing for sure is after this weekend NO ONE can claim Allen is a turnover machine. Because if Allen is TO prone then so is Hurts & Mahomes. And they throw pick 6's to boot.

I think the Bills/Pats game is more likely to go the way of the Raiders & Redskins games then the Giants or Chargers games.

The Bengal's are not beating the Chiefs. The tape on Browning is out and the KC defense will feast. At the same time Cincy has problems on D. The Chiefs will move the ball and put up points.

Well now that we have seen the carnage as virtually the entire AFC wildcard group was laid waste this weekend do the negative Nellie's appreciate the Bills victory more? Sure the Bills were sloppy with 3 TO's and way to many penalties. But they got the win. What was the excuse of the Bengal's who got blown out? Or the Colts that lost by 19 to a team with a losing record? Or Denver that lost at home to a team with 3 wins? Or the Jags that got annihilated by TB?