NoHuddleKelly12

You’re both right. ?

As the kids these days would say, solid burn...or is it they just got served? Either way, ??

If this doesn’t count as an inherent conflict of interest down the road for any future Bills games he works, IDK what is. The fact he’s still allowed to carry on after such a shameful incident at all, will simply cement in a lot of fans’ minds the reality that the officiating is inherently suspect/open for bias taint, and that’s the real shame going forward.

^^^^This. No question he's made strides in his playcalling over the course of the season from where we were, but the jury stays out until the year is done and we can evaluate over the entirety of the season, and probably into next with better weaponry to design around. I was one of the ones calling for his head early on, and have definitely backed off of that for a number of reasons, but am completely sold that he should remain "the guy" going forward? Not yet.

I agree with you about the timing of when they should've moved on from him, but I think there is still some value left to get back for him to the right team, but just not as much anymore.

And we all know that when that time comes for a RB, the dropoff is like hitting a wall, with few exceptions to the rule. In space he is still dangerous, but I always got the feeling watching him this year that at the slightest bit of initial contact, he would never break free, minus the Barkley Jets game. Could he still have a career renaissance? Sure, but what would you bet on it?

^^^^^This.

A case study on how to milk/parlay one good playoff run into years of coasting while getting paid handsomely—but now coming to it’s inevitable end. Time to play taps on his career in Baltimore. But given the overall state of QB play in the league versus how many are available with any kind of competence, I’m guessing he would never really ever end up unemployed, so long as his health holds.

You too can be awesome at horseshoes and hand grenades, just like me

I'm glad he at least defined his beef as limited to the FO and not the fans/city as a whole--that said, what's the point of bringing it up and then not being upfront about whatever the issue happens to be? Now it turns into a bunch of pointless speculation, ergo, all of us here...;) That was definitely a fail on his part to paint himself as sole heir to the title of "Mr. Buffalo." We could start a whole thread of which current and former players are most involved in the community and I'd be surprised to see him at or near the top. If he's trying to gain the sympathy of the fans, he's going about it totally the wrong way, IMHO. Links? What %? Can't say that I've ever heard negativity like that from the former players who were invested in playing for Buffalo beyond a year or 2 rental terms, like TO.

Surprisingly, the numbers don't bear out that Ryan was blitz-happy in Buffalo anymore however, after an initial blitz heavy start earlier in his coaching career. IIRC, as a side note, Super Mario often grumbled about being forced to drop into coverage packages instead of rushing the passer... Regardless, a pretty detailed autopsy of what went wrong with his D, for anyone interested, is here: https://buffalonews.com/2017/01/14/bills-2016-defensive-autopsy-rex-ryan/

How about giving Colton Schmidt a ring to see if his schedule permits? What--too soon?

Percy! Now there’s a name of a can’t miss speedster that I wish the Bills had thrown some investment at...wait, what was that? ?

Maybe he really did turn down an ambassadorship to the Cayman Islands ?? in favor of his dream job Brownies? Egg on all our faces, well played...

First world problems...or is it mo’ money mo’ problems??

^^^^^This. Each of them have shown at least something, but it does appear (early on) that Rosen would've been the "Wrong Josh" for us . Let's revisit this time next year however!

Without digging into the research as a franchise however, have they ever had a real, sustained playoff run over the course of 5+ years like we did (we at least have 2 solid franchise eras to refer back to)? Even when they had Sanders, he was often a one man show IIRC, and the team still went nowhere.

Not to make too fine a point on it, but I believe that’s also because they included time spent running around extending plays outside the pocket behind the LOS. I may be mistaken but am pretty sure that’s the case. It’s not like he has had a clean pocket to sit in for 4 + secs surveying the field between the tackles normally like TB12...if anything he’s buying extra time to allow the longer range route combinations to develop, for those times that he goes deep. Not a very helpful stat in that comparative context IMO. I believe Watson was right there with him, also a guy who doesn’t necessarily just sit in the pocket.

I heard on the morning show streaming WGR today that Cam Newton has averaged 100 rushes per season consistently for approximately 500 yds, and he’s only missed something like 3 starts over the course of his career due to injury. Should numbers around that mark be the goal? I just think JA is doing whatever he can to try to help this team win and I’m ok with it so long as it’s done in the right moments—I think naturally his running will come back to earth as his targets improve in ability—I do think he really does try to look downfield first generally speaking. As many others have stated already, he’s a one man show by necessity right now.

You really must not have used the search function to look through too many threads around here before saying that he’s avoided any blame over NP. Just sayin’... Wow...don’t think Teef has ever been accused of that before ???

Nuts!!! One of our best/brightest on D, and now sidelined for the rest of the year—hate it for him, hopefully no complications and he gets back next year 100% where he left off

Ok, great, thanks for that sneaky fact! Only 9 wins in the playoffs. And I’ll be sure to let each of the other HOF QB’s that he beat in the playoffs (combined 0-6 against Kelly) know that they should’ve never lost to him, like Dan Marino (90, 92, 95) John Elway (91), Warren Moon (88) and Joe Montana (93). I guess they just didn’t read your memo in time. I guess all of those national non-Buffalo HOF committee voters just didn’t know enough about Kelly in the playoffs to keep him from getting into the Hall on the 1st ballot. What suckers! I mean, 8 playoffs in 11 seasons, 6 division titles and 4 conference championships in a row are so <yawn>. Thankfully our franchise has done so much better since he played, right? I mean, sure, not even the G.O.A.T with Hoodie has ever won 4 AFC titles in a row (or even 3 in a row) while dominating us over the past 2 decades, but whatever, at least Kelly still sucked in the playoffs. ?

3 games back and JA already leads the team in rushing? Yeah, I’d say the previous recent abundance of threads questioning whether or not Shady has hit the RB wall or is well on the way to it, unfortunately will probably age well. A finger can definitely be pointed at the Oline along the way, but the eye test has been pretty consistent on him.

What a trail of tears. Thanks for posting this on a Monday, which I now have a case of.