No_Matter_What

I wrote it as a guess before Chandler posted who was actually released...

I generally agree with you, but problem is that (unless I am misunderstading something) it is MORE EXPENSIVE to cut Jones than to keep him. If you keep Jones his cap hit is $1,05M. If you release him, his dead cap is $650k and any rookie you replace him with adds at least another $750k, which is $1,4M overall. Taiwin got a lot of guaranteed money. Matakevich is another story, he might net us $1,8M or so.

@YoloinOhio Who is the 5th guy? There are only 4 in OP (and in this thread).

Kinda surprised about Wydermyer. I was hoping we can get something out of him. He was deemed as 2nd round prospect a year ago. Something went really wrong with him.

So who are the other four? OL Simmons, WR Gentry, DT Joseph, CB Ingram?

I really like Hodgins and hope he makes the team and contributes. But I came to say other thing. I am rewatching 4th quarter since I didn't have a chance to watch it yesterday, and man, Luke Tenuta as LT is brutal on that Hodgins 27y circus catch. He didn't even slow down his rusher. Its amazing that Barkley managed to throw that ball. Go and look.

I had said it after I saw his first interview: this guy is my favorite Bill. I hope he will be as good as he seems.

I'm surprised by the number of Keenum sucks overreactions. He had a bad game for sure. But he has accomplished so much more in NFL than Matt Barkley that its not even a comparison. Saying that Barkley deserves to be QB2 after one preseason game (where Barkley played against lesser players) is weird to say the least.

Details are on the Sportrac already: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/reggie-gilliam-47904/ Looks like 2y/$4.6M deal with $1M signing bonus. There are probably some incentives built in.

WTF are you two talking about? Don't you understand that headline mentiones 5.2M which surely means Beane just paid 5.2M in cash to Gilliam and we need to overreact immediately?

Too soon to judge. But I share your optimism, I always do.

I updated the chart after some roster moves and start of the training camp. I didn't follow all camp notes so if you think I am substantially wrong let me know There are 53 players over the grey line - my current random guess who makes the roster.

This means that Bills won't pick 32 again. This franchise is cursed!

@NewEra

Why does Elam scare you? I am not following everything but I thought he was getting tested a lot by Diggs which is a great thing. He presumably loses more than he wins but that's fine for the time being against one of the very best, isn't it?

Lol I thought the same exact thing. Had to Google that it was Cam Lewis.

We don't know yet. But I guess he will since Sweeney looks like fringe NFL player.

This gets mentioned often but I don't get it at all. So Brady earning $20M+ (or whatever) doesn't need to chase every penny but any other QB has to since their wives do not make $40M? In what world isn't $100M+ or whatever these QBs made (or $300M+ these young guys will make) not enough for generations of their families?

Interesting thread. I am only a fan since 2016 so it forced me to read about some past Bills players I knew a little or nothing about. Takeo Spikes for example holds a record of playing in 219 regular season games without a playoff appearence. Not the best record to hold I guess Anyway, I took a time to count votes in this thread and this is what top 10 looks like: 1. Jason Peters - 26 votes 2. Fred Jackson - 21 3. Mario Williams - 20 4. Takeo Spikes - 16 5. Eric Moulds - 15 6. Marshawn Lynch - 13 7. Aaron Schobel - 12 8. Nate Clements - 10 9. Kyle Williams - 9 10. Antoine Winfield - 8 11. Ruben Brown - 8 There were couple of players whose eligibility was questioned. I guess it depends on exact question/definition. However, it is clear that Moulds and Brown would be slightly higher if more people found them eligible. Others with 5 or more votes: 7 - Moorman, McGee 6 - Fletcher, Pat Williams 5 - Dareus, Gilmore Sometimes it was not 100% clear how people are voting so there could be some minor deviations

Which Williams?

I think it was pretty clear from his own video that we overpaid to get him. His agent said something like Bills offered more than they even expected. Nothing wrong with that since we are talking about Von Miller. He just needs to produce next three years and help us win a Lombardi. And it's really not a surprise that other teams were interested and that he talked to other teams.

Not arguing with you but wasn't Hopkins suspended for 6 games for PEDs this season? And he is a top 3 WR.

The funniest thing about this is that it is not even a hype. If that is the best thing what both the coach and Hill can say about Tua, then they are actually saying that he sucks.

We can't and we are not. That is not a matter of opinion, those are league rules. Formally we have roughly $5M cap space available, which is effectively zero cap space - once 52nd and 53rd player ($1,7M - $1,8M) and whole practice squad ($3,2M - $3,5M) get accounted for. Where did you get that number? Sportrac has it at $10M right now - increase from $208M to $218M. There are articles around the internet stating that it might be $220M - $225M next year, but I didn't see higher number. So we are probably looking at $17M increase max.

Not sure where did you take those 41 players from. To me Sportrac shows 62 players with 2023 contracts (58 if you deduct 4 with void year who do not have actual contracts). But the way I see it is that you need to take out all players who will not be on 2022 roster and count only those who will be. We don't know for sure which players exactly, but we have quite a good idea and for this exercise you do not need to know exactly if we keep Stevenson or Hodgins. So when I keep only real NFL players on the list I think we have around 33-35 players under contract with with cap space being around zero. However, Sportrac counts with $218M cap space, and there are other speculations that it could be as high as $225M. That would be great and give us much more room.