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The Bills benched familiar and traded it for a 3rd. If this QB is familiar then please don't waste the pick. I want the Bills to be familiar with a guy that can lead the offense to frequent 21+ point games.

To be honest, what I want and reality are different. I can't hype myself about another teams back up pretending to be a starting QB. Then you have a new OC and new system to go along with a backup QB. It wasn't the outcome I want but it's the one I am getting. I understand it so I will learn to live with it. It's unproven so I'm at wait and see and hope for the best. Then you have Peterman. Same situation, new system new OC. He has to be able to survive an entire game. I hope his introduction into the NFL was a wake up call and I hope he is out there right now as I speak training his mind and body. Again not to much to get hyped over and it's just wait and see. Then you have the ??? as a rookie QB. Nothing proven at the NFL level and no hype for me. You only hope they choose a guy that is a natural. Same situation new OC new system. Just wait and see situation for me. You risk plugging the guy in to early and he struggles then the fans jump ship on that hype train and Beane is blamed for choosing a bust. All the magic and mystery destroyed and the teams exposed once again. All I can do is hope. Hope the new OC and System can be productive with any of the above options. Hope that it all comes together in camp and preseason and the team isn't still trying to get together during the season. It probably a lot to ask so I am actually ready to embrace ugly. What I am Hyped about is that I do have a HC and GM combo I can believe in. I don't feel like that's a wait and see situation for me. That is Playoff proven. They can do a lot with a little and still cleaning up messes they inherited. I'm all in when it comes to that. I can't vote because all of these options are unproven at the NFL level and it's all hyping myself to count on Miracles. I wanted Nick Folez because at the very least on a good team with a good offensive system he got the job done in the playoffs and the big show. That at least is proven to have worked. He wears an SB ring and he was a factor in getting it. The price was to steep and I'm over it. I'm at wait and see mode. I'm choosing to be patient because the drought was busted. If old time fans can wait 17 years for a playoff game I suppose I can wait until it's figured out. I'm just at wait and see mode. Show me something I can believe in.

It was more entertaining then watching Tyrod dance around the back field the entire 4rth quarter in a 3 point game only game managing a bunch of 3 and outs. Peterman was only in the Playoffs game because Tyrod turned him self into a huge target with the ball super glued to his hands all game. He got knocked out. Oh and I think that last sack he took was for a loss.

Peterman was drafted in a later round as an afterthought. Then he was tossed into a game too early to be the savior of a season. I agree with you that if he at least played mediocre there could be some debate. I disagree it was an ideal situation for him to start. Piss poor performing offence and all. If it makes you feel better to bring up his very awful debut and toss him in the dumpster so be it. If it helps you get through the day. I don't have any expectations but I haven't written him off and I don't think he was given a very fair chance. That's how I feel. I like Peterman better then Tyrod. At least Peterman went out swinging. Tyrod just held the ball until Jacksonville KOed him at the end of the game. Tyrod ran away while Peterman ran tword the goal. Reality check. The offense scored 3 points in a playoff game. They scored 3 points against the Panthers. They racked up 56 yarder vs the Saints. Dennisons fired and Tyrod's traded. We have a new offensive system and a new OC and a brand new back up QB to pretend to be a starter. We got bigger problems then Peterman right now.

Well I just have this feeling based on a few situations going on. I think Beane is to smart of a GM to have the fans sit through a season of AJ at QB in a new offensive system under a new OC without something else brewing behind the scenes. If Tyrod makes Cleveland look better and AJ makes the Bills look worse... I can only assume Beane understands that is a possibility because AJ hasn't been a starter for more then a hanful of games. I can only assume that he skipped over free agency because he has plans in the draft. So what does that have to do with the #1 pick you ask. Browns traded a 3rd for Tyrod. We as Bills fans think we can't get any better with Tyrod but the Brown giving a 3rd for him leads me to believe they think they can get better with Tyrod. The organization is nicknamed the factory of sadness for a reason. The winless season was a testament to that fact. The Browns suck. I bet they think Tyrod for a 3rd was a freaking steal. So the Browns have a history of hedging thier bets. They have traded down in the past. The GM has also openly stated that he is open to listen to offers for #1. Not #4 but specifically #1. I don't know why he would mention it if he didn't wanna at least listen to offers. The Browns might not have the Bills fan mentality of just draft a QB. They could potentially secure a lot more capital and still be at #4 to pick a QB in what I hear is a pretty QB heavy draft. Now add in the fact that we already done business with them for Tyrod the lines of communication we're open at one point. We passed on pick #3 to a division rival. If the Brown don't trade #1 to us I still think they trade it out if the price is right. Then they can grab a rookie QB at #4 and own the draft to build a team and maybe win a game with Tyrod. A rookie QB isn't making Tyrod play better next season that's for sure. Any QB they pick at #1 or #4 is going to bust because the Browns suck. The new Brownies GM understands this isn't a winning organization. I'm sure of that unless he's blind. His best shot is to build up around the present. I think he's firing off them picks but why not start at #4 with more ammo now and the future. If I was a Browns fan it's what I would want. I wouldn't want another losing season. They don't have time for a QB of the future. They got to make the QB of today look good. That's Tyrod. In my honest opinion. Tyrod the safe QB that brought his last team to the playoffs with a joke of an offence at times. The guy who doesn't make mistakes. I'll end by saying this. I don't say what I want to happen. I'm just saying what I think will happen. If we don't trade up I won't be upset. I think we have an awesome GM and HC and that to me is more important right now then blasting off all our ammo in a bet. I really don't want the Bills to pick at #1. I am scared they can't develop a QB. I seen no real progression in Tyrod. It seemed he actually got worse as time went on. It would be betting on landing an elite talent that doesn't need much development or it isn't worth the trade.

That's a bad Omen. We need some good juju now.

Honestly, if it looked like I was commenting on your reply in the negative I apologise. That wasn't my intention. My response had nothing to do with your reply to him. I was just very offended by what this dude typed. I think this guy owes us all an apology. Although I might not deserve one because I kinda fired off.

Way to generalize a whole fan base because of one persons response. You sound like an elitist. You still couldn't knock me out. You are so smart then why you need others to tell you who the QB needy teams are? This is the first time I have ever felt offended by something on this board. The only thing you showed me is how special you think you are. I don't believe it. I'll need proof. I don't believe anything I read on the internet. Words are not good enough to satiate my hunger. P.S. There are many threads on the topic of QBs in this draft. You could of looked in any of those and seen all the speculation on this topic you could ever want. You think we got a special line to every teams GM and asked them specifically who is QB needy? You should learn to stay humble. You over value yourself.

I don't know if he did overlook guys. I do know that the guys he did have, he ran through training camp so hard they started fighting and complaining about being tired of hitting each other. So I know at the very least he's getting the most from what he does have. I have to admire it.

That most of all. I loved it.

I agree with everything McDermott has done. I'm 100% bought in. He played it safe because he inherited a junky offense. It's like saying why don't you risk that super risky jump on this bike that has to brakes.

Just saying I legit seen Nathan Peterson on this board a few times. Not that it bothers me. Just came to confirm that.

I think Allen's gone like above poster said. I'll roll with the boards love for Jackson.

No one will ever foret the day the Bills traded for the #1 pick. I'll just keep stacking the bread crumbs.

I repeat #1 is in the bag.

Darnold - (Bust) Browns Suck Rosen- (Great) Definitely has a SB win. Allen- (Good) Never makes it to a SB. Mayfield -(Mega Bust) Jackson- (Good) Never wind a SB.

Welcome. We have a lot of Browns fans on this board as well. Only they dress as Bills fans to try and trick us.

A lot of work being done on busted plays. Awareness to reach out for the Pylon. Makes defenders miss. Nice spin move out of a tackle. Deep throws into tight windows. Takes the game into his own hands and runs for a first down and a touchdown. Hits a wide open gaping hole and runs for a nice play. Korn was one of my favorite bands growing up. Surprised I never heard of him.

You are evil! Browns going QB at #1 and #4 would be epic!

I hope your right because if AJ can't produce and Tyrod does better in Cleveland it's going to be a lot of hellfire and brimstone.

I agree with that. I think you guys are right about the fact that Cleveland owns this draft and should be trending up in the future. I just think some are over zealous about how fast it all goes down. If the Bills had the Browns picks I would think the same thing if we went winless last season.

Browns might be in great position. They might transition to a better team. Saying they will go from winless to 500 or better in a season is kinda like saying Peterman will lead the Bills to the Playoffs next season. A lot is unknown but I agree they have potential.

Bills fans are just getting caught thinking the grass is greener on the other side. They love the Browns picks and once the season starts and the Browns go 2-5 to start they will come flocking home.

I don't care if I throw in the rain. It doesn't matter if it makes me look bad because the Browns have the #1 pick and are up my backside about picking me anyway. I have no choice. "I'm trying to go to Cleveland" Darnold expressed in a very sarcastic tone.