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Beane traded a lot of established players (Dareus being the only one on a bad contract) and ended up with a lot of draft capital that he spent all of to get Allen and Edmunds. All those trades left a lot of holes on the roster. If Allen and Edmunds pan out and we have a strong 2019 draft / FA then we really could be a contender. If that doesn't work out we're probably looking at a new GM in 2020. The Loulelei contract in particular is a major red flag to me. Grossly overpaid for a guy just because they knew him from Carolina.

Just from watching Brisket play the Bills twice and checking out his stats, is he any better than EJ Manuel? His ceiling seems to be very good backup/competent game manager. The Seahawks are insane for offering a 2nd, and the Colts are even more insane for not accepting it. Just my 2c.

In today's NFL 1,000 yards is expected from a #1 WR. I certainly wouldn't call it "excellent" when 25 guys a year get over 1k receiving yards. I'm not saying he's bad, but I think the best you can say about him is that he's a low end WR1.

I like the idea of 100% guaranteed contracts. It works for the other big sports leagues, why should the NFL be any different? Sure there are examples of players signing huge contracts and then they get lazy (Dareus, Haynesworth, etc.), but there are a lot more examples of guys that are worth the mega contracts they sign.

The Jets HC job was supposedly his dream job. There were also rumors that the Bills front office called up other teams to blackball Marrone after he did us like that. I can believe it. A rookie head coach that went 9-7 (with a franchise like Buffalo) would be a pretty hot commodity on the open market, and he was only able to land as an offensive line coach. To the original post, I'd put Marrone higher on the list. I'd also move Lynch way down (probably out of the top 10) and put McGahee up there. Lynch was run out of town by the media/fans and never said anything bad about Buffalo afterwards.

There's going to be a lot of QB's to compare Allen to. Mahomes, Watson, and Rosen are all guys that we could've picked instead of him. Watson was having the best rookie season ever until his injury. Something that gets glossed over a lot, but the Star Lotulelei contract is absolutely terrible. I think a lot of people on here are willing to overlook questionable GM decisions because Beane ended the drought. I'm willing to be patient, but there's a lot he could've done differently. Time will tell

That's true, most successful 1st round QB's in the last 15 years were already off the board by the time the Bills picked. Biggest misses: McKelvin at 11th instead of Flacco at 18th. And for a huge "what if": we traded our 2005 1st rd pick to select Losman in 2004. That 2005 pick ended up being 20 overall, some guy named Aaron Rodgers was still on the board at that time (he was the 24th pick). In hindsight the Dareus pick really hurts. There's about 5 future HoF'ers we could've realistically picked there.

Such a frustrating game. The Bills could get first downs, but we kept stalling near mid field. 20 first downs on 260 yards (complete lack of chunk plays). Tyrod was pretty awful, but I'll still say he outplayed Bortles. Bortles had a couple of really easy throws that he threw into the dirt and killed some drives. Offensive playcalling was so vanilla it made me want to pull my hair out. Defense played great, but it was disappointing that they never adjusted to Bortles scrambling.

I thought this thread was going to be about bringing in Fred in some sort of coaching capacity (I'd be on board with that). He was too slow to play in the NFL 3 years ago...

As has been mentioned many times the 6-3 abomination against Cleveland is the worst game I've attended. That was the first game I attended where I could legally drink, and I decided to be all responsible and not get blackout drunk. I still regret that to this day as I vividly remember the 9 false starts by the Bills and winning QB Derek Anderson going 2/17. Honorable mentions: 10-3 loss to the 49ers in 2008. The 49ers scored a TD on their first drive and did pretty much nothing for the rest of the game. Bills offense could move the ball consistently, but we consistently blew it on the 49ers side of the field. Lindell doinked 2 FG's off the uprights. Rainy, cold weather and the realization that we would be extending the drought after starting the year 5-1 made for a thoroughly depressing game. http://www.espn.com/nfl/recap?gameId=281130002 15-10 loss to the Dolphins in 2010 (home opener). Both teams sucked. Trentative was at his worst. He threw a checkdown on 4th down with <10 seconds left in the game and the Bills down by 5. Needless to say we didn't convert that 4th down and the Dolphins knelt to end the game. http://www.espn.com/nfl/recap?gameId=300912002 47-10 loss to the Saints in 2017. I remember sitting there at halftime thinking we're "only" down 17-3 if we get a defensive stop and score a TD on our first possession of the 2nd half we're right back in this. The 10 play 94 yard drive where the Saints ran the ball all 10 plays and ended it with a 7 yard Drew Brees rushing TD was probably the worst defensive effort I have ever seen from the Bills. There are (sadly) many other awful games to chose from. Those are just the one's that I've personally attended.

Both of these accusations read like women that are upset they got herpes and are looking for a payout.

I'm baffled. What is the "rules of play"? Everything I've read said Elliott broke the NFL's code of conduct. Including this article on NFL.com (emphasis mine). http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000877852/article/ezekiel-elliott-withdraws-appeal-will-serve-suspension Elliott was suspended by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in August following a year-long investigation into domestic violence allegations made by Tiffany Thompson, his former girlfriend. The league concluded he violated its personal conduct policy, which mandates a six-game suspension for first-time domestic violence violations. Elliott, 22, was never charged and has denied wrongdoing.

I think you're missing the fact that Ezekiell Elliott was suspended for 6 games even though he never even faced criminal charges, let alone a conviction. If this story drags out and causes a black eye for the NFL then Shady will 100% be suspended. Regardless if he faces criminal charges or not.

I guess by your definition Rae Carruth wasn't "directly involved" in the murder of his pregnant ex-girlfriend? He wasn't directly on the scene after all

Ezekiel Elliot was never criminally charged and was still suspended for 6 games. Adrian Peterson was out an entire year because he took a switch to his kid (pretty minor criminal charges).

Mccoy doesn't need to be guilty (or even charged) to be suspended by the league. If they deem Shady is hurting their public image they can suspend him for any number of games under the personal conduct policy. I think the only way he can avoid a suspension is if this story is resolved very quickly (payoff). Worst case if Shady ordered a posse member to rob and pistol whip this girl it's probably the end of his career.

It's hard to know what type of value you can get in a trade for a player in the NFL. The value of a player can fluctuate pretty wildly. Marshawn Lynch was traded for a 4th round pick. So was Bryce Brown. Tyrod Taylor (who the Bills were almost guaranteed to cut) was traded for a 3rd pick. AJ Mcarron (who was reportedly going for a 2nd+3rd rd pick before the Browns deadline snafu) walked as a UFA. Jimmy G was traded for a 2nd round pick. Generally I would say Beane has done well on trades. I would have rather kept Ragland and Dareus (especially Ragland), but I can see why they were traded. Keep in mind with Dareus that we are still on the hook for about 14mil in dead cap in the 2018-2019 season and that his original contract had a potential out after that season ended. Trading him netted us a 5th round pick and about 2mil of cap space in the 2018-2019 season.

The other major sports leagues have guaranteed contracts and that doesn't seem to be a problem there.

Ragland had a very solid season for the Chiefs after McBeane traded him for a hill of beans. I don't really want to trade Shaq at this point. We'd be selling low on a guy that has a lot of potential (similar to Ragland trade).

I don't have high expectations for the 2018-2018 season, but I am optimistic for the future.

I find when people say "overly politically correct" or "I'm not a racist, but" that almost nothing they say is worthwhile. That "article" didn't make me change my mind (I'm actually annoyed I went for the bait and clicked on it). There is absolutely nothing wrong with Hue saying that Tyrod will be the starter. Tyrod can be a perfectly acceptable bridge QB for them to start this year while Baker adjusts to the NFL. It's probably the smart thing to do to bring Baker along slowly. There's also nothing stopping Hue from changing his mind and starting Baker if he looks amazing in training camp/pre-season. Coaches have been known to say things in May that end up differently in September when the season starts...

Did that hit ruin Trent Edwards career? No, No, No, No, and No. A lot of Bills fans cling to this idea, and it's demonstratively wrong. The best game of Edward's career (vs Chargers) came AFTER that concussion. Edwards was NEVER good and the 4-0 start to the 2008 season was born of lucky scheduling. The best record any of those 4 teams had at the end of the 2008 season was 5-11

The trade up to draft Sammy was bad, but not the disaster it could have been. Luckily for us we our 2015 1st ended up at 19th overall, and there really wasn't much left in a pretty weak draft class.

Aaron Rodgers comes to mind. Although it is impossible to know what his career would've looked like had he started from day 1 .

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2535585-sheldon-richardson-arrested-after-going-143-mph-latest-details-on-jets-dt Very similar situation. At least Richardson didn't threaten the officer's wife?