Maine-iac

This whole thread is an opinion of some people's opinions ................ what are you expecting?

What 90 percent of the posters in this thread are missing and that those analysts weren't is why Tyrod didn't throw deep last week on a 3rd and long. We run for negative yards, we get penalized we end up in 3rd and 15. We run a play where only two people even run routes past the sticks and the defense is in cover 3 and every airmchair QB in Buffalo groans and shakes their first in the air. The real story is that with a good running game, something Dennson appears incapable of designing, Taylor took a lot of shots down field and did very well at it. When called on 2nd and 5 or 3rd and 3, deep shots are effective. If you have a per carry average of 1.7 and your QB is throwing on 3rd and 15 and not getting it your team shouldn't be in that position in the first place.

These are the places I get upset with the team. He plays his ass off in Miami. Leads to a 4th qtr lead with 1:20. Defense chokes. Leads them back down the field in 0T. Carpenter misses a kick. Defense chokes. They bench him the next week. Fast forward to this year. We play the Jets. We are 5 and 2 and everyone is saying he's getting it. By all accounts in a game where we have a rookie and then back ups and walk ons at WR/TE he plays pretty damn well. If not for the fumbles and drops he easily throws for 300 and a couple of TD's to go with 35 yards rushing and a TD. Shady is completely ineffective and the defense gives up 200 and multiple scores rushing. Next week Taylor doesn't play well. No excuses. The defense is getting hammered into the floor. Personally I couldn't figure out why they weren't throwing every down but either way the passing game wasn't good. That said in what essentially was an off game for Taylor and a second horrendous showing for the defense the decide to bench Taylor. If were 4 and 5 or Taylor had multiple bad games where it's clearly him making poor decisions. March in Peterman. Here we are at 5 and 4 in the playoff hunt. Taylor has done enough to get us to 5 and 4 and the "help" just arrived this week. I definately would have given it more time. I've thought they would draft a legit prospect/competition this offseason from the outset. Maybe McDermott doesn't think he can get the defense fixed and is throwing in the towel on the season and we might as well see Peterman. Let's face it, the defense has been horrendous the last two weeks and Dennison isn't the most innovative 0C in the world. It's not like Dennison is going to outscore anyone even with Peyton Manning.

Woods, Watkins, and Goodwin never made it through a season without gettting hurt. They were also all playing in a run first offense that averaged 50 ypg more running the ball than this years team. Again I'm not lamenting the switch to Peterman. That writing was on the wall. I'm lamenting the switch to Dennison. It is the very type of switch that has defined the "drought" in Buffalo. Two years from now we'll be hiring some untested offensive prodigy because we went bust with a 1st round pick of a QB and inevitably he'll bring in a dud of a DC and we'll start this all over again.

I was talking about the Jets game. I said as much. Go back and look at it. The offense was moving the ball. The defense was getting gashed. So no insult taken. You read it/misunderstood it or weren't watching. He didn't beat them because of bad clock management, multiple fumbles, and the defense giving up 200 yards rushing. He played the QB position well in that game and most said the same after the game. ps the response merging .............. do multiple posts take up too much space on the internet?

He really looked pretty damn good the Jets game. A lot of fumbles, penalties, bad clock management. The Saints game was a dumpster fire. I just don't see Peterman while there's still a chance at playoffs. Everything was going great up until the Jets game and the wheels essentially came off the defense not the offense.

I like Taylor. People get that and hate that which is fine. If we had a Rogers type prospect on the bench or had slid out of the playoff hunt I wouldn't even bat an eye at them yanking Taylor. That's my issue with pulling Taylor. I don't think they'll be better with Peterman because of Dennison. I think in a best case scenario you'll see the 2015/2016 Broncos. That's with KB because the Broncos have good recievers. Taylor has played most of the year in that turd offense with guys off the street.

Roman/Lynn same offense and Roman coached for a whole season prior to that. You think Dennison will come any where near what Roman/Lynn scored? Do you think next year he will? Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Greg Roman always put up points. Dennison put up 20 and 22 ppg before coming here. 0ur defenses gave up more points than his offenses were scoring .............. if you want two good insights as to why we lost last year and why we will continue to lose now.

If you have Greg Roman or Andy Reid you can score 23 to 26 ppg with a QB like Taylor. How many games you win depend on if your team can play defense and not get 11 penalties a game, make it's kicks ect. If you have Hackett, Dennison, Marty ball type 0C's then you probably are going to want a different QB.

So if it's all on understanding, and Taylor couldn't handle it, why did Dennison suck in Denver with Peyton Manning?

Pretty much sums it up. Not a fan of the timing. Peterman might be better for the coaches.

Dennison's offense's scored a whopping 20 and 22 ppg before coming here and that's with Peyton Manning on one of his teams. Tell me again what great things Dennison has done. Roman has outscored Dennison the last two years and is outscoring him this year also. Have to be able to score points and Dennison can't do it. Peterman may well fit Dennison's offense better so maybe, just maybe we'll go from 20 ppg to 22 like he did with the Broncos.

This is key and it is where we consistently go wrong. Get good coaches on both sides of the ball.

Essentially the same personnel we have here now scored 400 points last year. The biggest change is not Sammy leaving. Switching QB's is not going to get us back anywhere near 25 ppg. We did the Buffalo switch-a-roo ........... every few years we switch offense for defense or vice versa and proceed to waste away picks only to bring in a crappy coach to coach them.

Yet last year with essentially the same personnel we scored more than all but 5 Bill's teams throughout the whole history of the NFL. Can't be on Dennison?

Roman still puts up an offense that scores over 23 ppg game twice as much as Dennison even if he doesn't create "franchise QB's" or throw for 300 every game. Hell Roman has outscored Dennison the last 2 years and is outscoring him this year as well.

Might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Unless someones 4 year old did that I can't understand why an adult would have wasted their time.

If the defense comes back there's always a chance. If the running game would come back that wouldn't hurt either. Clay and KB make some pretty nice targets but in the end we really need Dennison to keep our QB out of 3rd and 12 all the time. Stop running wide with Tolbert on early downs.

The Pats only gave up 25 or more twice last year and we were one of the two teams that did it. The other game we played them we won but Brady wasn't playing. With the offense we had last year and a defense we had a chance. With Dennison I don't know. Again it really has little to do with Peterman. I don't think it has much to do with Peterman. The stuff Andy Reid brought against the Pats ............. you'll never see that from Dennison.

The two years pryor they were ranked 10th and 9th .......... it might be on Dennison.

All the more reason that the particular changes the made are ridiculous. Time will tell. A great chance for Peterman.

That is definately a hope. I am actually more pessimistic about Dennison than Peterman. Peterman may actually bring something. I think even a well oiled Dennison offense might be good for 23 ppg.

Did you miss the part and I'll repeat it for you, where we were driving to go ahead right before that? If Manuel or McCoy could have made one yard we would have been driving for a go ahead score and that's half way through the 4th qtr.

There was no "garbage time". It was 27 - 24 at the end of the 3rd and we were driving in the fourth but lost the ball on downs. Who threw those long TD's? How does that not count as offense? Is the point not to score points?

He had 3 games prior to the N0 game with a rating over 96 and threw over 250 yards in 2 out of the 3. That's without any healthy recievers and the leading pass catcher being signed off the street. N0 was ugly for everyone but mostly the defense. If we weren't 5-4 or Taylor had multiple crap games I'd see it. It does seem like change for changes sake here. Possibly change for Dennison's sake but I think Dennison is a pedestrian coordinator so I hate to see Taylor get benched only to realize Dennison will never get things going.