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As many have already said in this thread here...continuity is nice if you have really good players. We have at least 3 guys on the O-line who are starting that we know are not quality NFL starters. Dawkins is solid and we're hoping on Teller. Major work needs to be done on the O-line. At least 3 starters and a quality swingman is needed. Yea, and if you remember, that Dallas O-line made a HUGE difference. That offense was really efficient that year.

Hopefully he pans out but I'd like to see us go for for a quality CB2 in the offseason even if he does look solid the rest of the way. You need that kind of depth at CB in the league now anyway

I'd take it if he becomes Robert Woods.

No, and I really hope 1 game doesn't shift any kind of focus with management. The O-line needs at least 3 more legit starters and an effective swing player. Zay still has a ways to go to be considered a possible #2. Either way, we need 2 quality WR's, 1 of them needing to be an elite talent, 1 good TE and another solid TE2/quality backup, and a RB. I'm also of the philosophy that you should keep drafting QB's to give yourself a shot at landing a diamond in the rough. Allen is obviously talented but he's anything but a given at QB.

Bring him back Woody!

Phillipians 3:13 13 Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead

That makes me feel better. Just wanted to also add Revelation 21:4 - "He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death' or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."

Peterman wasn't even a good teammate. That Hail Mary run last week was one of the most gutless plays I've ever seen. He didn't want to risk an INT on his stat sheet even if the reward could have helped the team. It was selfish. Hope this guy doesn't end up on the practice squad and never wears a Bills uni again. JAMES 1:2-3

His Judgement Cometh And That Right Soon!

Dude, we've lost to a lot less than that. To me it's more about our team, I don't think the consistency is anywhere close to ripping off all of those games. And even if Allen improves and develops, he's going to have some ups and downs. Yesterday was fun but I really hope it doesn't at any point mean benching Allen, who could actually be the QB of the future, for Barkley to attempt to win now when the ceiling is mediocrity at best. Not saying you're suggesting that, but I'm just hoping the priority is still going to be developing Allen, whether or not that means taking an extra loss or two.

Ahhh the old classic we're going 4-0 vs the Jets and Dolphins.

I definitely don't see it. I would love it because it would mean Allen/the offense are getting better. But realistically, even if Allen does improve, he's likely still going to have some ups and downs. And we have yet to see if Matt Barkley went a little rogue with pushing the ball down the field and if McDermott and Daboll want to rein that in or finally let the ball fly.

I agree with some of this, but I would give a few of those guys more credit, such as White, Milano, Phillips, and Johnson. Those guys have consistently played pretty well. I like Edmunds as well, dude's only 20 and can make plays. Hopefully some of those mistakes will get cleaned up but I do like that he's a possible playmaker. But I agree, most regimes can claim a handful of quality players after a couple of offseasons. I don't think anything special has been done here as of yet. That'll all depend on Allen.

Most regimes, even our past ones, will come up with some quality players they add to the organization. My hesitancy to give them the benefit of the doubt is how bad the offensive system has been and the complete butchery of management of the QB position. The make or break will obviously be how/if Josh Allen develops, because none of this will matter if he doesn't turn out to be the real deal. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think this is the coaching staff that can develop a legitimate top quality franchise QB.

We've also been blown out quite a bit on McDermott's watch though. They were fired up yesterdasy, but we definitely haven't seen that consistently. We've had our games where we looked like the Jets did yesterday. That's so vague though. This isn't necessarily about McD and Beane, but I ask this because I see general statements like this being made all the time. Do you think a regime should get a certain allotment of time no matter how the rebuilding process is progressing? Even if it's not going well, there should be a standard minimum set of years just given to them simply because it's labeled a rebuild?

I think he could be a depth WR, which we need. Too early to say he's possibly a viable #3.

I conceptually liked what Barkley did yesterday, but even that wasn't necessarily a great exhibition of throwing. He threw some nice balls, some 50/50 balls, and a couple that probably should have been picks but given the situations we were in, I really wouldn't have minded even if they had been INT's. The 2 big things he did was make a concerted effort to throw the ball downfield and give our WR's the opportunities to make plays. I hope McDermott and Daboll don't try to beat that out of him. The rules in the NFL make those kinds of plays favorable, even if you don't have great WR's. You have to try to take advantage. We also have to try to develop at least a couple of these WR's. Give them some shots. Ultimately though, I still think talent-wise that the guy's potential is as a solid backup. Even that we have to see if he can do something similar to this more often, but not at the price of sitting Allen down. I'm sure if he sticks around, some opportunities to start here and there will still come up. From purely a stats perspective, yes. But I still would've liked his mindset from the beginning of pushing the ball downfield. One of those drops was on 3rd and 10 that he threw from what I believe was our 40 to around their 20 on 3rd and 10. I don't really mind taking chances like that, it's most likely going to end up being somewhat similar to a punt anyway.

I won't use it to say whether he's a good human being or not...but I definitely have questions as to whether Peterman is a good teammate or not. That Hail Mary play last week where he took off running out of bounds was one of the most gutless plays I've ever seen in the NFL. Did he think someone was going to be wide open on that play? There's a reason why it's called a Hail Mary. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he's smarter than that. However...that lends to the very good possibility that he didn't want to risk another interception being on his stat sheet. That he didn't want to risk having an interception in his name even if the reward could have been helping out his team, no matter how small the percentage was for that to happen. That doesn't sound like a very good teammate. Really, it doesn't even sound like the Christian thing to do.

This here is pretty much the problem and why threads like this exist. If someone shares a thought of yours, it's just their opinion and they are apparently entitled to it without question. If they don't, they need to "stop creating problems". This was a civil post that simply brought up a topic and asked the question. Take a look in the mirror if you need to see someone who needs to grow up.

Very well put, and I totally agree that it's a combination of all of those things. But I think people confuse the part of that being off-putting with being "atheists" or for hating on people who are religious, when to me that's not it at all. It's more of taking a shot at that bias that's being showed to someone when they're seen as one of their own. I mentioned earlier in this post that when Robert Foster was dropping balls for the majority of his time here before yesterday and when Phillip Gaines was getting torched, there was no rush to their defense by people trying to point out any character attributes. But it's there in almost every single Peterman thread.

I'm just trying to understand what you're saying... But if you do a lot of work in the community with charitable organizations...you're doing something to earn that label of being a good person. I think the question here is does being religious automatically earn that label for some people? You hear around here all the time about how good a person Peterman is. We don't really hear that for other players who have struggled. I didn't hear it about Robert Foster earlier this season, or Phillip Gaines. I will also correlate this with being white...but that good guy label seems to be thrown around pretty easily if you're outspoken about religion.

Nobody's saying they aren't allowed to. What's being questioned is if there is a societal bias towards those that do. He's white and Christian, that'll go a long way with a lot of people. I've thought for a while now that this is a big reason why Peterman's still here. Even though you can point to cold, hard facts about there being absolutely no other reason why he's survived this long on the team, many here will just try to brush it off.

I like that he wanted to throw the ball downfield, we've just had so little of that for so long. Even a couple he had that were almost picked, I really didn't have a problem with. Interceptions happen sometimes when you let it rip. One in particular was on 3rd and 10 from I believe our 40 and he threw one to around the 20 that the Jets defender dropped. I'm cool with that even if it's picked, it's basically a punt. He took some chances and gave our WR's some opportunities to make plays. This is how we should always be playing, especially in a developmental season like this.

Allen. Barkley has the potential to be a solid backup but that's what he is. We're really not going to get anything out of him starting games.

Haha, this is what I was thinking. The fact that he hasn't been around McDermott and Daboll could've actually been very beneficial. Hopefully they won't ruin him and he can become a serviceable backup.