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I bet we could all easily come to a compromise on who to take

There's a 25% chance now that McD is on the hot seat! I'll take it!

Haha you know we're taking him Round 1 if he's there

The difference is I don't minimize one of them, there hasn't been any of that stuff that you've brought up that I have either denied or tried to defend. You tried to say that's not happening "right now" with the Church and you LITERALLY made a post complaining about the White House talking about the Trans day that's a fantasy and that they didn't talk about Easter enough...which is also a fantasy. Again, you are fine with the fantasy that's on your "side" and even encourage that the President acknowledge and celebrate it more. Another difference is I don't create threads and bring up topics that directly contradict themselves or their "side", which you've made clear is what you believe these are. We can probably be done because you're saying anyone who doesn't agree with you is your enemy, and that's why most political forums or conversations that have both "sides" involved turn into cesspools. You want to just be in your echo chamber, there was no better way to say it than the way you did. I personally don't understand the point of spending as much time as you do here to just want to hear affirmations from the same exact people over and over...but you're free to do you.

Thank you for actually directly replying to me. Again, you're missing the point. If I wanted to use the Church as a benchmark, it wouldn't even be comparable. The amount of damage religion has done with war, cults, child abuse, rape, human rights...the extreme Trans stuff historically speaking wouldn't even come close, but I'm actually saying it's just as bad. It's not a contest to me. The point isn't religion itself, it's that a lot of you here who post a lot on the Trans subject are ignoring how this kind of child abuse and indoctrination happens the other side, and then the literal hypocrisy of complaining about a day rooted in fantasy to protect Easter...another fantasy. You want things like the Trans day to be condemned because of the worst people in that faction of the community...but your side doesn't do that when it comes to the Church. Who on that Right side is condemning the cross like they are the Pride flag because of their worst representation? You are aware how much I hate religion and the Church...but I'm fine with people who wear a cross or celebrate Easter. I'm simply condemning their worst as being very similar in thought to these Trans/LGBTQ+ Extremists. I'm not going to make a thread on religion being evil because I don't think it always is in spite of my own issues with it. You're free to act like I haven't agreed a million times about how the sexualization of kids from that faction is wrong, but you know that's immature. You can rationalize it to yourself because this part of the board is a cesspool, no argument there, but you know it's disingenuous.

By literally saying it's wrong and agreeing it's perverted? Interesting logic you have. But you won't see me run and copy/paste your stuff in another thread or mention you without @'ing you and hope you just don't see it. Even you know that's pathetic. Be at least something resembling an adult.

I'm not the one running from a thread to copy/paste your comments in others hoping you won't see them. That makes you less of a man than the Trans men without the real junk.

And Priests and religious leaders ACTUALLY "felch" young boys and girls. I would say both situations are pretty disturbing. I don't pick and choose where I draw lines on child sexual exploitation like yourself.

Yes, saying all of it is wrong and showing how it's a behavior that takes place on both sides instead of taking a side is "deflection". Or maybe what you're doing is the Iron Law of Partisan Hackery. Remember, I didn't vote Biden or Trump in 2020 nor am I this year. I'm not gay or trans or religious. I don't advocate for anyone to vote for anyone. I literally have no agenda to push. We know who does though.

It basically already did happen. He ran off and copy/pasted my comment in another thread after saying he's done with me. It's one of the most childish things I've seen on PPP and that's saying a lot. At least most of the other people who disagree with me have the fortitude to respond to me directly if they have something to say about any of my posts.

How is it deflection if I'm actually acknowledging the wrongdoing of the that faction of their community? You're the one who is a Partisan Hack, an admitted one, who is unable to admit the hypocrisy of many of the people, including yourself, who are upset about this. That's just reality. I'm not demonizing religion...I'm demonizing your hypocrisy. You changed your argument at least 3 times in that conversation. And then you're say you're done with it and then run off and link this thread in another thread. How pathetic. Go be safe in your echo chamber where you'll get affirmation from other people who will look the other way when it comes to their own.

Alan Watts would be proud!

I'm all in on the Red helmets with the All-Red jersey and pant uni's! Sunday Bloody Sunday!

It IS still happening today and they are STILL covering for the Priests that did it TODAY! Right now, as we speak. They know where many of those Priests are that they extradited and hid and still won't give them up. You are making up arguments like "is she supposed to ignore that" or that I'm "minimizing" anything, when I'm not. I've literally said multiple times that I agree with you on that. Me bringing up the other side of it from the population who who condemns that but turns a blind eye to their own is not minimizing anything or telling someone not to call out the Trans extremists or whoever...it's saying take a look in the mirror and make sure you're looking at your own peeps who are doing many of the same exact things. Maybe then something will happen to all of these people instead of them being protected by their sides. Because of who you are, you don't have the ability to understand that there are people out there who are not Partisan Hacks like yourself who can look at both and call them both out on their bull####. I'm not entrenched into a political cult. I have no ties to anyone. I don't kneel to anyone in political media. And yes, you keep moving the goalpoats and simplifying what your supposed beefs are even though in this very thread, you DID complain about Biden commenting on Trans day and not enough on Easter, having an issue with one fantasy but not the other. Not all Trans people are committing these pervasive behaviors, just like not all Christians or Catholics are molesting kids. Why is it so wrong to make a mention of Trans day when Easter is heavily celebrated by Catholics even when Catholic Priests did what they did? You are lumping in an entire community because of their extremists on one side but not the other. There's no way you don't see the double standard in this. Also, you DID complain about what parents are taking their kids to get indoctrinated with such as the insinuation of Drag Queen Story Hour, but no complaints when parents do the same with Church. You DID complain about LGBTQ+ being brought up by politicians, but have no issue with religion being brought up with them. Your defense is to try to paint me as minimizing one vs the other because you don't understand the concept of not being in a box. You can literally read this thread alone and say it's disingenuous of you to say that your only beef is what you are now trying to simplify it to, and even then it reeks with hypocrisy and Partisan Hackery. You literally say you're against forcing ideology onto others, which I agree with...but even if you personally are not against gay marriage by law, our debate is what these specific factions within the LGBTQ+ community are doing and what the Religious Right is doing...and they HAVE for decades pushed their religious ideologies on everyone and are STILL trying to! Somehow you've gotten to a place where you'll condemn the angry screaming Far Left Liberal who tries to shove pronouns down your throat but not the Right-Wing Christian Conservatives who want to restrict rights through LAW. I can sit back and say they are all full of it and that they are pretty much the same, just dressed up differently. That's all it is, their intentions are the EXACT SAME.

Is this post for real? I'm honestly wondering if this is a self-parody. You are drawing lines in the sand between the Religious and Trans for dancing in front of 3rd graders when Priests have actually MOLESTED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF KIDS for decades??? And hid behind the Church??? Many who are STILL protected by the Churches to this day??? Even the ones who we KNOW did it and were extradited internationally? And yeah, I'm sure some Trans extremists have done the same and it's just as horrific. Yet it's interesting that you're fixated on the .01% of our population or whatever it is and have no concern whatsoever about the MUCH bigger numbers of kids suffering at the hands of Christian, Catholic, and other religious cult zealots around the world when the right answer is they are all the problem. Yes, I don't agree with talking about sex or dancing or whatever it is you're talking about in front of 3rd graders or Trans men playing on a girls sports team or trying to "force" people to use a pronoun or indoctrination. But my criticisms go across the board to EVERYONE. I'm not turning a blind eye to people that are doing incredibly horrific things because they may agree with me on other political issues. When a parent takes their kid to Drag Queen Story Hour, which I assume from what you wrote is one of your beefs, the complaint is that the kid is being taken there through no choice of their own to be influenced and indoctrinated into fantasies and delusions. OK, fair enough. But then why isn't that same complaint present when a kid is being taken to Church to be influenced and indoctrinated into fantasies and delusions??? I've asked this question in different ways and you won't answer that. You know it's the same exact thing. Christians have been trying to force their belief systems on everyone for as long as it's been around. You have to be joking with this. We literally have holidays based on made up Christian holidays. There is an invisible, unprovable God in our Pledge of Allegiance! It's in our courtrooms, in public spaces, I grew up with many teachers talking about Jesus going into those holidays. You're saying Right-Wingers/Christians/Conservatives wouldn't flip out if there was a Trans National Day created as a Federal holiday or if it was inserted into one of our anthems? They went crazy just because a flag was flown or because Biden mentioned their day on Easter when Right-Wing politicians like Trump mention God and specifically Christianity ALL THE TIME! Again, why is that different??? Another hypocrisy you refuse to acknowledge. And they literally RESTRICTED the rights for many in that LGBTQ+ community to get married even if it didn't interfere with their own lives or churches. How much more of an overreach can you have? They forced their beliefs onto everyone through the LAW. Is this OK because they do it with a smile on their face instead of yelling like one of the extremist Trans people you are talking about? It's the same thing dressed up in the way you happen to prefer it.

But there's still nuance involved here. Lets say this theory is correct about his son...what would you then feel about his behavior for the decades after it happened? You could debate about protecting your child if you know he murdered 2 people...I think I know what side of that I'd be on...but lets say even then, the guy wrote a parody-ish book about it, tried multiple times to profit off it, and flat out joked about it many times. That wouldn't make him a killer...but I still think all of that would make him a POS.

True sociopath basking in what he did. The book was probably like a trophy to him.

I mean, dude was a murderer and a piece of garbage who laughed about what he did for decades after. But he did do some great things on the field. I get both sides of it. I don't really understand the whole "hey his son might've done it!" stuff when there's no real evidence for it and even then OJ really never showed any sympathy for the losses.

I don't think so. The joke that was posted was taking a shot at the majority black jury that let him off the hook...when it would take a lot less than a Trial to do so for their own group of people.

Takes a lot more than that to hurt my feelings, if that's even possible. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy in the joke.

That's interesting "satire" coming from a publication run by people who think if OJ apologized and squirted a few drops of water on his head, he'll be rewarded with an eternity of paradise

Would that also excuse him writing a book to profit off of it and joking about the whole thing over and over again throughout his life while the victims families will never see their loved ones again? If he knows his son did it and is covering for him, which is what many of those people say, wouldn't he still feel some kind of sympathy for what his son did to those people and their families?

So this is what you say...however...you just complained twice that Easter, also a made up holiday not based on facts and logic, did not get the attention from the White House that the Trans Day did. You're OK with one Fantasy World but not the other and in fact want one of the Fantasy Worlds to get some kind of meaningless recognition from people you dislike. Watch how easy this for me because I'm not a Partisan Hack like you and am not entrenched on a side and can speak freely and objectively on any subject...yes, there is the extreme faction of the Trans/LGBTQ+ community that is unable to have civil discourse and can be rude and demanding and intolerant. How big a percentage of the whole population that is, I don't know. But absolutely it exists. But you seem to think that this is so much worse than being the surface-level polite of Christianity while trying to restrict the rights of certain factions of their community like to get married, which can even be a religious liberty of those gay people happen to be Christian. Even when their Churches are protected from it. Them overreaching on something that does not effect their lives in the slightest to restrict the rights of others - no problem...because they're what, politically correct to your face and will try to restrict your freedom with a smile on their face instead? And I can play this game of who's more tolerant too because it's all situational. I have Christmas carolers come to my door and sing songs about Jesus and God, as do probably people that are in the LGBQT+ community. If we did a little experiment and had Christmas carolers go to a bunch of gay or non-believer peoples houses and sing vs a group of Trans people singing songs about trans stuff to Right-Wingers...who do you think will have many more doors slammed in their face or worse? But I'm not defending any of it, that's the difference. I have a consistent argument that if you want to live in your fantasy world, it's fine if you aren't imposing it personally on other people. I call people by their preferred pronouns because it's courteous, just like I'll pray with somebody to Jesus before Easter dinner with them because it's courteous. I'm against the indoctrination of children from both extremist Trans people and extremist Christians. I don't think a man can give birth, and I also don't think a woman can have an Immaculate Conception. These two groups are much more similar than you either want to believe or simply denying. But I don't spend my life attacking one and letting the other completely off the hook because I've chosen a side. You kneel to all these "Conservatives" that you retweet, even in the face of BLATANT hypocrisy. People who are literally attacking the Trans Day for being a fake holiday rooted in fantasy and then DEFENDING EASTER! In the SAME sentence!!! Like honestly, are you capable of processing and thinking about that for even a second? It's a simple question.

How are people who believe in God being "shut down"? Do you think Christians have nowhere to go in this country? There is literally nothing that someone who is Christian is unable to do here, and their Churches are protected from having to condone unspeakable "sinful" behavior like affirming two dudes getting married within their walls. Or from baking a cake. This is the same exact victim complex that Conservatives paint for everyone else who plays that card but feel it's 100% fine to do it when it comes to Christians. Again, hypocrisy. Christians have indoctrinated and pushed their religion onto people since it's inception...you know...when men made it up. They just call it Evangelizing. It's literally one of their core tenets. And they have done incredibly destructive things to kids, just like the extreme Trans group has. Religious nutjobs also try to incorporate their biblical beliefs into the Law constantly, you see it all the time with the Right. Are there people who go way too far with trying to force their ideology with the LGBTQ+ stuff? Absolutely. I'm not in favor of doing that with anything, and as a true liberal I would argue that those people are not actual liberals. But lets not pretend that Christians have not tried to do the same exact thing. It's probably more surface level polite....but these are people that also tried, and are still trying, to restrict the rights of that group for decades even if it didn't effect their own life the slightest bit. Think about that for even a second. The whole America being built on God and Christianity is such absolute garbage. I mean are you talking about when people were killing and raping each other over their Dogmatic differences? The Founding Fathers were more part of the "Enlightenment Thinkers", and not all of them were even Christian, and they made a point of it to not include religion into the Constitution. You are romanticizing Christians to a point where you can't see any of this. And whether it's 000001% of the population or 50% of it...how does that change that they're believing in delusions and fantasies? Does something become more true if more people are brainwashed? Will you change your mind on Trans people if 50% of the country believes a man can become a woman?

Isn't that just feeding their delusions? That's not help, at least not the kind you're wanting for other people who you feel are in Fantasy Land. And I would agree that should be what churches are for...but we hear politicians and newsmedia and big factions of society pushing God and Christianity on us constantly...no outrage about that? You're not actually against delusions or pushing unverifiable narratives, because you're fine with them if they happen to be on your side, that's what it really comes down to. Your hypocrisy.