BuffaloBillyG

Lovie should get a lifetime contract and full control of the team just based off his beard game.

I called it upthread a bit. Makes sense. There is no way they can offer the job to McCown. And if they hire Flores it would appear he got the job just to appease him. Would open the door to more lawsuits by minority candidates that may feel all they have to do is sue and they jump to the front of the line. Lovie has prior experience, is on staff already and would be a minority here...which would look better.

Not sure. Since you bring it up could you do a breakdown of what players we have that have the skill set to play in the wide 9? Perhaps some ideas for replacements for those that don't that should be in FA and draft? Appreciate it!

The only thing I can think of is that the Texans may have someone already on staff (Pep Hamilton? Lovie?) that they are considering promoting. I cannot imagine that right now they would be as tone deaf as to hire McCown as HC. (Why not bring him in as an offensive assistant or position coach?). And I just can't see them hiring Flores with all the distractions that would be thrown on top of the Watson continuing drama. Though Flores did say he informed the Texans of his intention to file his lawsuit during his interview. So it's nothing they were caught off guard with.

Appearently it's down to Flores and McCown officially. This about to get GOOD.

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I think they should switch it to an "old timers" game. Broken hips as far as the eye can see. Now THAT'S football.

Agree the list is very strong this year. Will be interesting to see who gets to see the Market and who is resigned. Williams is a guy that may get a tag. Crowder and and Kirk would fit what we do. I also like DJ Chark. Chark is coming off an injury and may need to sign a 1 year "prove it". He's a guy that reminds me a bit of Gabe Davis, however possesses more speed.

True. However, there are 3 other main talking points people like to use when talking about why he's not been hired. Zero of them have a lick of credibility IMO. 1. He doesn't call his own plays. There are a good number of head coaches that have never called plays. There are a good number of coaches that have called plays and turn duties over to their Coordinator and don't call plays anyway. See; McDermott, Sean. 2. He doesn't interview well/speak well/is unprepared. I've provided links in this post that refute that. 3. Kansas City plays too late in the season for him to be considered. The Super Bowl runs hurt him. Oddly enough in this very cycle the Vikings are waiting for Kevin O'Connell. A 36 year old that has only been a coach for 5 seasons, never called his own plays. What's even more confusing is that most of the people (not saying you in particular) have never seen the man work. They have no clue what he does. They have never heard his voice. Obviously have never sat in on interviews, film studies or know anything about him other than what it says in his Wikipedia page and the talking points that others have stated over and over.

And why do you believe that? Because other people say that? Because someone sent a Tweet on Twitter? And do you really believe after all the interviews he's done he's not improved? Without looking too hard (front page of 1 google search) I found an article that seems to disagree. https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-oc-eric-bieniemy-strong-interview-falcons-in-the-mix-next-head-coach "Bieniemy, who is considered one of the top head-coaching candidates and who has interviewed for multiple head-coaching openings, "prepared, knew everything about the team, had a great plan and is a bona fide candidate," the source said." That sounds very different than the picture you paint. Attached is an article that includes a 2 minute impromptu interview at a highly emotional moment. (Right after Chiefs won Super Bowl). Gave thoughtful, meaningful and insightful answers. Well composed and easily coveys his message. You know, just in case you've never actually heard the mans voice. https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/02/chiefs-eric-bieniemy-interview-video-head-coach-jeff-allen-super-bowl

And yet, Joseph was hired as a HC in the NFL. As was Matt Patricia who had a similar accusation thrown his way. So, teams not hiring Bieniemy and using his "rap sheet" on incidents from some that are almost 30 years old seems a tad disingenuous IMO.

And it was so terrible that in 2010 the same college brought him back (with promotion to OC) and in 2020 were reportedly ready to offer him the HC position before he declined.

Oh, you mean like an owner? That's the person that year in and year out is the constant in an organization. Or maybe the QB? Pro Bowl player? Chuck Noll was a "main representation". Tom Landry. Don Shula. Guys that where out on front for decades. Teams hire and fire a coach every 3 years. Doesn't make them a "main representive". They are just another replacable cog in the machine.

Counter point: Couldn't he be paired with an OC that has called plays and let that OC call the offense? Many coaches do it that way. Follow up question: Ken Dorsey hasn't ever called plays. Was he a bad choice to pair with a defensive HC that will likely be handing the keys to the Corvette offense over to him? Obviously

I am not sure how his oddball contract works...but if Hill plays primarily at QB doesn't his pay go significantly up as well? Not sure they could afford that. Also, I know he wasn't the GM...but I feel like Payton had a say so in retaining him to that big deal...then sticks the incoming coach with him. They may be forced to roll with Ian Book. Not even thinking they can clear the funds to make a run at resigning Winston.

Great idea. Are there any guys like that that stand out too you?

Yes, would be really hard for an owner (you know...a colleague of Dan Snyder and Robert Kraft) to explain why they hired asomeone to coach a player (you know, like Kareem Hunt) with a prior history of criminal behavior. Only boy scouts and choir boys allowed in the NFL from here on out

Bull. Look at the rap sheets and misgivings of a great many owners in the NFL. That's ok though. Kraft, Snyder, Irsay, and the list can go on and on. Then look at the players in the NFL. Hunt, Mixon, Hill, Clark, Mike freaking Vick and again...list could go on and on. Holding Bieniemy hostage over his own past is hypocritical, lazy group thinking and a huge cop out. The NFL obviously has no issue having him as an employee. The NFL endorses him year after year as a "recommended candidate" in their Coaching lists they send to all 32 teams. His past is in over argued excuse used by people that can't give a football reason why he isn't hired yet.

That's where I would be at if I were the Ravens GM as well. There is some GM out there thatbis desperate and would love to over pay in a trade. If I'm looking at my situation as Baltimore I would think the bidding for a "young former MVP 1st team All-Pro" could fetch at MINIMUM 3 1sts. Likely a good player or 2 back as well. Then add in NOT having that huge contract and you would have the ability between picks and cap savings to retool both sides of the ball. Huntley wouldn't be bad for a year or 2. Mariota would possibly do well in that offense.

Ravens in 2 years:

That is a great theory, however in practice it would never work well. The Texans would, by that rule get a 1st round pick for hiring and firing Culley in less than a 12 month span. What would stop a team from repeating this action for several years? I believe the though process for the losing team getting the picks is being used to be an incentive for not only employing minorities in positions where they are noticed, but also grooming them and giving them the tools to succeed when/if they got their shot. That eliminates the Wilks or Culley issues where those guys seemed unprepared. When we look around the NFL there are 3 minority HCs. Of the 3 the longest tenured by far is Mike Tomlin. Tomlin also often serves as the poster child for "Rooney Rule done right". In all his time as a HC he has not mentored or promoted minority candidates at the same rate as Caucasian coaches, either. In comparison, take someone like Tony Dungy. If you look up his coaching tree about a THIRD of all black HCs in NFL history come from his tutelage...his mentorship. What this tells me is that we are constantly told that the Kevin O'Connell's of the NFL are "the most qualified" man for the job...what we need to ask is "Why". Proper mentorship and helping minority coaches become qualified are why the NFL rewards those picks to the franchise losing the coach. We just need HCs that will guide and mentor.

Honestly though...I do wonder if they hire him if the NFL takes that into consideration when it comes time to award Super Bowls, NFL Draft locations and things of that nature.

Agree to a point about trade value of a pick. I realize there is a trade value spread sheet that fans (and some teams) use, however the value of a high pick is directly related to projected values of a player a team is targeting as well. One idea I have to discourage teams from tanking is a simple yet will never happen formula. Much like the players selected 1-32 have a basic contract value...splot the revenue sharing on a 1-32 scale as well. Team drafting 1st gets lowest share of the financial pie.

No. Doesn't matter where you pick...matters if you got your picks right. Cleveland took Mayfield and Jets took Darnold over Allen. Picking a few slots lower or higher isn't guaranteed anything.

Again, there's no way of knowing how the Dolphins roster shakes out if Brady signs. Your point is based on nothing but speculation of what someone else would think in a given moment. Now if we want to speculate...cool. My speculation was the Brady did NOT believe they were just him away from a Super Bowl. That's why he recruited Gronk when they had 2 good TEs in place. That's why he lobbied for Antonio Brown when they already had Evans and Godwin in place. That's why he was heavy in recruiting Fournette. He signed before they drafted Wirfs who solidified their oline. It's easy to speculate he would have done the same in Miami.