BigDingus

Really wish Edmunds could make tackles at the line rather than getting them from the RB pushing him over... Thankfully our safeties are beasts against the pass and the rush.

When you hang on to the ball for 3 seconds or more, that's on the QB. And when he takes off running before the pocket has started to collapse, that's still on the QB.

The saddest part about all of this is how great our defense has played, and the awesome field position they've given the offense. All wasted.

Yeah, why throw to the open guy that could run after catch when you can throw a low percentage pass to a covered man when you have zero touch? This is why I don't think Allen will ever be our franchise guy.

Just going to say this now before ppl start blaming the play calling - this is what happens when your QB cant execute. Playcalling gets conservative, creativity is lost, passes down field get held back, all because the QB sucks.

Good kickoff return, great run by Gore, drive dead the moment Allen is expected to do something. Throw off your back foot while fading backwards. Recipe for success.

He seriously can't make a good decision to save his life. Throw the damn ball away.

What are the weapons supposed to do when the ball is flying over their head or hitting the dirt? You could throw the best RB and WRs on this team, and they couldn't do s*** to help our QB throw an accurate pass.

Josh has had ample time to throw. He's missing wide open guys, even ones he's locked on to from snap to pass. Plays specifically made to give him at least one reception he still can't hit. It's not the O-line.

Thank God we had all those threads anointing him this week. Making fun of draft day complaints, all because he barely beat some crap teams. But yes, carry on about Allen's arrival.

Allen playing like he did the first 3 games. Only now facing a good team who will capitalize off turnovers. Holy crap... Allen cant hit a pass to save his life.

The line is giving him plenty of time. That sack that was called back on a penalty showed me he's scared. There's never been a more obvious all out blitz, and he held onto the ball like there was no rush whatsoever. No urgency. And another dumb interception after having all the time in the world to throw. This isn't a good sign. Aaaaand just like it's been said every single week - Allen playing like he has so far will screw us against good teams. No more failures capitalizing on turnovers.

This. Division winners shouldn't get auto home games, best record should determine that. And while I'm not against adding more teams to the playoffs in theory, I am against getting rid of the bye week. Those teams earned that spot, and it helps ensure the best teams make the Super Bowl. There have been times in other sports (especially the NBA) that a great team gets knocked out by a lousy bad match-up, then that lousy team goes on to get swept in the next round. The NBA has adjusted their playoff seating quite a bit. Their old formatting also made it to where the two best teams in each conference rarely met up in the Conference Finals and instead got matched up in the Divisional round. That was problematic because it diluted the excitement and competitiveness of the Conference Finals, as everyone already saw the great series in the previous round & weren't interested in what's supposed to be the 2nd most important series of the year. Anyway, I'm not a fan of not rewarding teams who do well in the regular season.

As long as it didn't extend a game winning drive, I'd be ok with that

It really would be nice to see the tides turn while Brady & Belichick are still around together. All these years growing up hoping to see the Bills put together a team to challenge the Pats, only for Brady to go out still dominating the Bills would suck. It's just crazy to think when he began his reign of terror I was a sophomore in high school. Now I'm in my 30's, finished with school a decade ago, and married. To see him go out on his a** with Jerry Hughes flexing above him Ali style would bring a smile to my face!

At this point I don't even remember if I actually like Blue Cheese more than ranch, I just use it because I'm supposed to ?

Ok, I laughed way too much at this...

LOL I just spit out my water. Dildoland represent! ?

Until I see him really improve & show he was worth stockpiling all those picks for (including moves like passing on Mahomes), I still think it was a dumb idea for this defensive-minded coaching staff to pick the most raw QB in the draft, all while having no O-linemen, weapons, etc. and go into the 2017 season with no veteran leadership on the entire roster... Just good ol' Nathan Peterman "earning" the starting job & Josh Allen to back him up....for 2 quarters. The guys who thought all these things were good ideas, and not only drafted Peterman, but thought he was so ready they could afford starting him with no other QB's aside from a rookie as depth, are supposed to be the ones who are going to develop the physically gifted, "all the tools but none of the production," QB into a franchise guy? Threads like this are amusing though, acting as if Allen has already solidified his place as a franchise guys after going 3-3 with the weakest remaining schedule to end last season, followed by 3 close struggles against teams with a combined 1-8 record. YEP! Brett Favre 2.0 has arrived! Thank goodness we passed on QB's that already have proven to be GREAT...we have a guy that could POSSIBLY be fairly solid, well as long as the defense can hold on for dear life when he dissapears for half of each game or constantly leaves them against the fence with crap field position either off turnovers or being unable to move the ball! But don't worry, as long as we can keep a top 5 defense, play a weak schedule, and put great talent around him, we can possibly make the playoffs every once in a while, and that's ultimately the goal right?! I don't care if I sound like I hater at this point. I just want to see 4 full quarters of SOLID, just SOLID, QB play against a good team. Win or lose. If that happens a couple times, I'll revel in looking at all the wrong "experts" and draft gurus and eat crow with the rest of them. /rant

On what planet is Russell Wilson not a top 5 QB?! And Big Ben has been a top 5 QB for years now, though his play has regressed as he nears the end of his career. Along with people saying they're fine with not drafting Mahomes even knowing what they know now, I'm convinced Bills fans forgot what a good QB looks like. http://businessinsider.com/nfl-qbs-ranked-tiers-2019-2019-9 *Russell Wilson at #3 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/top-10-qbs-in-nfl-tom-brady-aaron-rodgers-battle-for-second-behind-unanimous-no-1/ *Russell Wilson at #4 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001037947/article/2019-nfl-season-tom-brady-drew-brees-still-top-qb-rankings *Russell Wilson at #6 https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-2019-best-worst-1-32/11p5evm1b6g0v1tbu8lvzo5rzq *Russell Wilson at #5 https://www.complex.com/sports/2019/08/nfl-starting-quarterbacks-ranked/russell-wilson *Russell Wilson at #5 https://thecomeback.com/nfl/ranking-all-32-projected-nfl-starting-quarterbacks-for-2019.html *Russell Wilson at #3 http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr (Actual QBR) *Russell Wilson at #6 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2835945-ranking-every-nfl-teams-quarterback-situation-heading-into-2019-season#slide30 *Russell Wilson #3 I mean, this is just people coming into this season, but prior to this he was considered one of the top QB' and now that the 2019 season has began, talk has pushed him into top 3 easy with Brees & Ben going down. He's playing phenomenal football this year, averaging over 300 yards passing a game, 71% completions, 7 TD's & 0 INT's. If Allen can even sniff Wilson's level of play, the Bills will be a fantastic team for the next decade. But Wilson is borderline elite, so that's expecting a lot. Not everyone can be a Patrick Mahomes caliber player and take over the league in their first 2 years as a starter. I'm just hoping Allen can become a reliable, solid starter. Nothing special, but above the mediocre, Tyrod-level QB's. Most years? Roethlisberger has been considered a top 5, or just shy of top 5 every year he's been healthy. Without question. At his absolute WORST he's still in the top 10, but very few people would rank him that low ever.

You make some valid points, but the opposite could be said in a lot of places. Having a non-biased viewpoint takes a lot of effort, but I'm trying to be reasonable & logical here. Aside from what I said in bold, you also have the Pats beating the Jets by 16, scoring 30 points in 3 quarters. It took the Bills until 3:48 left in the 3rd to score 3. On top of that, the Pats offense hasn't disappeared for 2-3 quarters per game and have played competently the entire year. The Bills on the other hand disappear for long stretches, putting all the work on the defense to keep us alive while giving them awful field position to work with. And while Miami is definitely the worst, the Giants aren't much better. In fact, while Miami's defense ranks 32nd overall (in both yards allowed & points), the Giants rank 31st (again, in both yards allowed & points). Every year people say "new year, new team," and try to disregard the Patriots' history & experience. The key guys that make the team year after year and have won 6 freaking Super Bowls (that's still sickening to type out) are battle tested, always prepared, never take an off day, don't underestimate any opponents, and fight until the end (just look at the Falcons blowout Super Bowl, yet the Pats never thought they were done). On top of that, Brady is 30-2 when starting & finishing the game against the Bills, with only one of those games being a dominant win back in 2003. They do not take plays off, they rarely make mistakes, and they're the masters at adjusting to what their opponents are doing. THAT is a KEY thing that could determine the outcome of this game. Think about how the Bills have come out of half time, and how each opponent has adjusted to us better than how we adjusted to them.... And that's people like Adam Gase, Pat Shurmur and Zac Taylor, think of how Belichick will adjust to what we do. When the Pats went 16-0 in the regular season, there were only 4 opponents that finished within 1 score of winning/tying the game. That doesn't mean they were weak because they rarely faced adversity, it just meant they were that dominant. It's like the Chiefs...they'll face good teams, but then Patrick Mahomes will put up nearly 300 yards & 4 TD's (with 2 others being called back due to holding calls) in one quarter & make the game look like a flat blowout. They'll likely win most every game the rest of this season, adversity or not. Doesn't mean they're not great, only that nobody is close to their caliber to put up a fight. I'm not saying the Bills aren't going to be able to put up a fight, only that putting yourself in a hole, then having to fix your own screw ups hardly makes you a better team because you faced self-inflicted adversity. The Pats don't shoot themselves in the foot like the Bills do, and spinning that as a positive for us is pretty generous. The Bills CAN win. But what you laid out can just as easily be laid out in the exact opposite way in favor of the Patriots, and is more likely to come true in their case due to the mountains of evidence showing that's exactly the case. New year, new team, yeah... but they were new teams those new years within that 30-3 stretch of Brady dominance too.

I'm sure they'll just disguise plays and then disguise those too, all to make Josh super confused & likely start scrambling after his first read isn't there. What we need to do is get pressure with just our front line and blitz sparingly. Yes, Tom has been shown to make mistakes when getting hit a lot (like every other QB), but he's got such a quick release & a firm grasp of where everyone should be at all times, that blitzing repeatedly usually ends up with quick 8-12 yard completions over & over & over & over as they march down the field. Gotta disrupt that, and our LB's need to be able to hit their RB's at the point of attack. Too many tackles being made at the next level by DB's. NE passed the ball all over us in game 1 but settled for FG's, then in game 2 ran all over us.

Do they still have bleacher seats, or have they been renovated to individual seats in recent remodels? Those definitely hurt my ass & back after a while lol. Haven't been to a game in Buffalo in a few years, so not up to date on that.

Fortunately our defense played them very well the 2nd game of last year. We were down 24 to 6 with only just over a minute to go before the offense finally scored a TD putting the finally score at Pats 24, Bills 12. We held Brady to 126 passing yards, 1 TD & 2 INT's but got pummeled on the ground, giving up 273 rushing yards & 2 TD's. Still, holding the Pats to only 24 points gives us a shot to win as long as the offense can do ANYTHING before they inevitably come alive on the last drive. They absolutely cannot keep sending the defense out there for long periods of time, especially after failing to get 1st downs repeatedly, or else they'll inevitably become exhausted. The one thing that tends to really get away from us in Pats games is the field position battle, and this year the offense has been really bad about leaving the defense to inherit really crummy field position. That has to change, regardless of if our drives end in punts or not. If & when the defense holds the Pats to a 3 & out, the offense has to execute and pick up some first downs consistently before punting again. I'm hopeful we can at least eliminate some of the dumb mental mistakes and at least play respectably, but they have to come out laser focused, not just amped up & ready to hit someone (that just leads to penalties which will always go the Pats way).

I can't blame Shannon for a single thing he's saying. He's not wrong about anything he said. Does it suck to hear? Yeah, definitely. Can the Bills win? Of course they CAN, but not how we've played so far this season. Learned a long time ago not to get mad at things I don't want to hear as long as they're rooted in logic. It's also why I don't think Skip's wrong either. The Bills defense is legit, the Pats are thin, and the game is in Buffalo. The O-line played exceptionally well... Sometimes I can't understand how people come up with these things. I know it's easier to blame the playcalling or the O-line (or even the freaking defense who are the strength of this team!) than the 1st round pick QB, but the proof is there for all to see, people just think saying it somehow will mean Allen's a bust. He's not, but he needs to improve significantly to take us to the next level. That's ok to admit.