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Most offenses in the NFL run or ran traditional offenses. In terms of Qb you add talent this time of year. You look for system Qbs as back ups. Releasing Taylor they are in the desperate Qb market. Where Buffalo has lived for much of the drought. My point is there is realistically 3 maybe 4 Qbs available that can start tomorrow and you know will be better than Taylor. If Buffalo gets any of those 4 at that time you release him. If you do not you sign the best system type backup. In the draft if you get the QB you covet you than can trade Taylor. To who? The team that have a system that would benefit Taylor. Houston? Carolina? Maybe Cleveland if you are confident in the guy you got. The worst thing that could happen to me is Drafting a qb who may not be ready week 1 and now you either rush the Qbs development or throw is the career back up who will play in a manner you have to play the rookie anyway.

Add in the fact that Brees didnt pass a physical in Miami and Saban was not able to sway the organization to sign him anyway. They went with Culpepper. Payton had the Dr on his medical staff in NO who performed the shoulder surgery and got Brees cleared in the physical. If Brees went to Miami Saban is still in the NFL.

Cousins and Keenum are two guys that are going to be paid over there ability. Both I would say are better Qbs than Taylor. Besides them who comes in that is significantly better than Taylor? Bortles, but doubt he leaves Jacksonville. Bradford but is risky due to injury but could be had for similar money as Taylor. Besides the names that are listed who is a better starting Qb for average money? The remaining crop are career back ups and no assurance that they are actually better starting Qbs. If Buffalo does not get Bradford or Keenum there is a strong possibility Taylor is on the roster longer than many think. I would rather have Taylor battling a rookie to start than Peterman any day. Taylor has shown flashes of brilliance but those performances are too far and too few between. As a bridge Qb you can do much worst and barring some crazy trade for a Qb I expect Mcdermott doing the devil you know is better than the devil you dont. It wont be the popular decision to make, but that also does not mean it was not the correct one.

The trade market from now til his roster bonus will be slim to none. Only way you trade Taylor is on Draft night or in Training camp. Based off his cap hit idk if Buffalo would be willing to eat that. If Buffalo comes to the conclusion that they would be fine if Taylor was on the roster opening day and possibly starting than they would regain any trade leverage they could have. If Buffalo signs a Vetran at the start of FA they cut Taylor. Outside of that hold on to him and once a rookie over takes him a team could come calling in TC if their starter goes down.

The bottom half of every draft the players have to fight and earn a roster spot. For instance Milano will be a stromg canidate to start. Villajoe who is a linebaker selected before him will be fighting for a roster spot. Peterman doesnt look like an NFL starting Qb. Most assume Taylor is gone, and Buffalo nor only will sign a vetran to compete to start will also draft a Qb early. Peterman would need to beat out one to make the roster. If joe webb is retained Peterman would be the odd man out.

Tyrod does not have the same market as Alex Smith. Alex Smith s a better player. Every team knows about Taylors roster situation so you would have more leverage the closer to that date. Most would just let the bills cut him and all you have to do is sign him and not give anything else up.

I agree. If its not Luck ok but go get a guy. Not just be content with what is left. Add in the risk reward with Luck or the risk reward with a draft pick it is interesting. Now put 80 mil on Luck or 25 mil on the draft pick that levels the field even more.

FA options would be who comes out of Minnesota and see if Luck is available for trade. Can't get either I move up for a starting Qb. As time is going on I have it as Rosen, Allen, Mayfield, Darnold, and Jackson. I would be ok with any of those guys. if the only Qbs brought in are backups, than I want Rosen or Mayfield and Jackson. I think Allen has the best upside followed by Darnold but wouldnt want to go 100% with either day 1. They very well could earn it day 1 but I wouldn't feel as confident as the other 3 without being pushed or battling for the spot. Jackson is so athletic he may win rookie of the year but still not have a better career than any of the other guys. I know I have Jackson 5th and its confusing that Im more confidant with him over 2 guys I rank above him but for me his running ability is going to give teams immense problems the first time they see him. Im not sure how he will adjust when he has to win in the pocket and he will at some point end of year 1 and year 2 prove he can that is why I have him 5th.

Its a unique situation but also the coach hasn't had a chance to evaluate the team and set his own plan into place. They have a good position in the draft but have a wide range of needs and not alot of cap space. If the coach is who everyone expects he very well may like Brissett and be fine with him as a placeholder to develop a rookie. If they move Luck early on in the league year they can add much more help during FA with the added cap space. Do you gamble Luck is back to what he was and build around him? If he is not his market will never be higher than now and they would be stuck with a massive contract. That is as boom or bust as taking Mayfield Rosen, Darnold, or Allen but for significantly less financial obligations to at least sure up the rest of the roster. I 100% believe that it will be a major discussion for them and If the right offer comes calling it could sway it. To me it will be one of the main stories to follow this off-season.

A healthy Luck at a much lower hit than Cousins would be perfect. It would take a NO style roll of the dice. Brees did not pass a physical at Miami and Saban couldnt get the organization to clear him. Payton took him as is and the rest is history. A 1st and a 3rd with a conditional pick next year. If Luck plays 50% of the snap a 3rd. 80% goes to a second. Make the probowl it is a 1st. Indy at 3 could decided to move on get a top Qb and build the roster around them added cap space and draft picks.

Knowing Whaley and the entire scouting department was gone after the draft there was not chance Mcdermott was going to rely on that department to land him a franchise qb. Carr or Wilson were not top 10 rated prospects coming out of college. They proved to be good players but not really the same caliber of prospect as im decribing. Kelly was the last stellar qb drafted high. Ej was a pick of necessity not ability.

They are both white and play Qb. Even if Lucks shoulder is so bad they amputate his right arm, I would feel more comfortable with Luck throwing left hand than starting Peterman.

This. I almost guarantee Beane would much rather bring in 5 or 6 mid tier at the same cost of signing Cousins. The largest contract imo wont be over 40 mil total and i expect that to be a DT or DE. They have the space to add 2 Hyde level Fa and 5 Poyer level. Then use the Draft to add what you cant find in Fa. A franchise Qb and sideline to sideline baker. In round 3 add a running back or pass catcher.

I believe that was more a change in philosophy from Beane and Gettleman to there current GM. Beane seems to have the Parcells philosophy there is a finite amount of large men in the world so try to get as many as you can. You cant teach size or speed. Everyone in the NFL is fast not every is big and fast. Hopkins has the largest hands in the league and has made the most contested catches since entering the league. He plays much larger than his frame.

Your nightmare is my fantasy. If Buffalo walks away from the draft with Allen, Rosen, or Darnold I will be delighted. Also, if Buffalo felt that strongly for Mayfiled or Jackson I would be fine with it as well. Buffalo has not been poor enough to be in position to draft a franchise Qb in my life time. The only time they were close was when Newton went 1. By making the moves they made during training camp and the season Buffalo has a surplus of picks. If they used 3 or 4 picks to get into the top 5 to get a franchise Qb I am all aboard that bandwagon I may even be driving it. After getting the Qb they still should have a second to add an athletic linebacker, lineman, or pass catcher. With the rest of the draft go BPA. By not spending all the cap space this year on 1 player they will be able to sure up the holes in the starting line up. Now they dont have to be starters but also doesn't leave the position bare for a rookie to start regardless of readiness. I think Zay is a prime example of forcing a rookie to play before he was 100% ready to.

I think Buffalo will keep Shady. He was very good last year. However, I could see the majority of those players being cut. I think if you move Alexander to situational pass rusher he can lead the special teams and get some sack off the edge and can earn his salary. Interested to see Beanes first full off season. I dont expect Buffalo getting into bidding wars for any Fa. That includes Qb. The cost for Cousins would be the opposite of building through the draft. By building through the draft I beileve that means that is where to get difference makers and franchise corner stones. I think they will look to fill the holes of the roster with mid tier guys. The right fit and you can find some diamonds. Like Hyde and Poyer last offseason. The Bills were 8-4 when Gaines played so I think he is a priority to resign. Beane likes Benjamin so after his knee heals up I expect buffalo to extend him this year to lower his cap hit. The roster will be churned just as much as it was last year. This year they have more picks and more cap space to work with.

The best drop back pocket passer in the draft is Rosen. I think his off the field stuff is over blown. The headlines he made during the offseason came from a place of empathy for his teammates and other athletes. Very smart guy. My greatest concern with him is going to be longevity and ability to absorb punishment of a NFL season. If he doesnt get hurt I think he easily becomes the best Qb in this class. Some think this class is poor because there is not the 100% sure thing. There have been 2 Qbs in 35 years that are that. Elway and Luck are were the only ones. This class has 4 legit top 10 caliber qbs. Most classes have 1 or 2 first rd quality Qbs. It would not be to crazy to see 6 first rd Qbs this year. The Bills haven't had a potential franchise Qb since Bledsoe and Losman. Imo they need figure out which guy they like best and try to go get them. This draft is the difference of Beane and Mcdermott being in Buffalo for 10 plus years or 3.

Looking back on that draft I dont think he trusted Whaley and the staff in place to draft a qb in rd 1. Call it ego call it what you will, if they draft Watson or Mahomes Whaley is still the GM. Knowing Whaley and the whole scouting department was let go something wasnt right and the trade down allows them to get a qb this year. The Qb class this year grades as a higher class and more talented prospects.

They bust at lower rate than Qbs taken in every other rd combined.

I disagree. Eagles, Rams and Texans seem to have found franchise Qbs. So if the best prospects are going top 10 why wouldnt you use some of the assests gained to get one of those guys? Its not the Saints or Vikings trading the farm for 1 player. Buffalo could move up by packaging 21,22 and the 2nd from La to get a caliber and potenial at Qb that Buffalo has not had since Kelly. That may seem steep to you but that still leave Buffalo with a full compliment of picks for 2018 and 2019. Getting a franchise Qb should be the top focus this off season.

Interesing debate but TD was first team all pro 3 times vs 1. Terrell Davis was more dominate than Craig. Believe a knee injury derailed his career. But he is in the hall the same way Gale Sawyers is.. Their best games and season were best ever category.

If he doesnt show improvement in TC he will not make the final roster.

Agreed. Its typical Fa speak. Mario Williams and Suh said the same thing when he entered FA. Imo The only way he sign with us or Denver is if his market isnt as hot as he thought or all his offers around 25 mil a year.

Imo it is no less risky than paying Cousins 125 mil. He hasn't won but put up big numbers. It is high possible that Cousin never lives up to contract like the majority of the high priced FA.