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I get you and as a Sabre fan I remember when people were nervous in the early 2000s about moving but the league wouldn't let it happen. Regardless people still will have their fears which I get. Internationally I am indifferent other then just improve the playing surface.

I would also add a lottt of Bills fans probably have some fear just because of the whole Toronto series. Even though the entire league now shares going abroad and sacrificing a game, Bills fans had to live through that in a way different way due to the threat of relocation.

My guess is it will be west coast teams out of the gate and then if they were to do games with east coast teams they would play on TNF then have extra rest and time to travel for Australia and then probably have a bye week after or MNF game to add rest.

My point is expect every other year. The NFLs goal is going to be send half the league abroad every year and if the 18th game is added then everyone goes abroad once. This year as is I believe 13 teams will go out of the US, so we already are close to the 16 number. Everyone will take their turn its just going to shorten from every 4 years to every other.

The last two years for once I actually am less critical of McD on defense and more Beane/bad injury luck. The 2023 defense was the walking wounded by the post season and held together with duct tape. This year McD and crew did what they could with a defense that has no bluechip defender after Benford IMO. Still think the scheme blows come the big moments, but to me the KC game highlighted the defense having a lot of average/decent guys and against better talent not being able to do the job. Rousseau had such a good year and then against KC was a joke just like Oliver. That hurts so much when those are young core guys you need to make an impact and it is why if I were Beane I'd be willing to move picks to bring in not only a DE but another quality DT too to level up the defensive line.

Yep. I read Peter Kings thoughts a year or two ago when he did FMIA about teams abroad. Basically the player apathy of going abroad and travel issues are real. As much as the NFL wants a franchise there it is a very tough egg to figure out and IF it comes to pass it probably is London. I don't mind the games abroad but the issues with the field and competitive disadvantage in terms of travel is real when some teams don't go abroad. Once every team has a game abroad I think that part will quiet down, but the field issues you have see in England and Brazil reallyyyy need to be fixed. Buffalo effectively lost 3 starters in 2023 in one game. Yes freak injuries, but the field conditions were a real factor same as Brazil with GB/PHI. Other than that I really do enjoy football all day and it is kind of fun having that to watch.

Unlikely. most likely thing is maybe a team in London. Even that is tough given the time differences etc. the league would have a very tough time divesting talent at 40 teams and the issues with just a single team is a lot. I’d also add many players have zero desire to live overseas.

Corta here and it has been a bit since I have chimed in schedule wise but this most recent news has my attention even more attune to the NFL globally. The NFL today announced that the Rams will be going to Australia in 2026 as the designated home team. For those at home wondering LA to Australia is a 15 hour flight alone. This is the continuation of the NFL driving a larger international effort for teams over the last few years. In 2025 the following countries will be hosting games with these home teams: 4x England: Jags 2x, Jets, Browns Germany: Colts Madrid: Miami Rumored: Brazil with Chargers hosting In total the NFL could have 7 games abroad in 2025 which potentially could pit up to 15 teams abroad which is nearly half the league. The NFL has not been shy recently about wanting more games abroad and having the entire league abroad with relative regularity. When the 17th game was added many looked at it as a way for the NFL to add more international games because a team with 9 home games who loses one abroad still has 8 games which means the owners get a regular season with of revenue there. Much like the Bills in 2023 when they had 9 home games but the Jags in England was technically home. If the NFL were to go to 18 games the talk has been that every team would be going abroad once as the additional games allow it to be easier for teams (OWNERS) to not lose revenue while the league maxes it presence. With the potential for 15 teams abroad in 2025 if you are not a fan of the Bills going abroad even as the away team I would start prepping yourself. The days are numbered before the Bills are gone once a year to some other country. My only hope is maybe it isn't to England given our luck there.

Welcome to the Hotel California

I am not concerned about injury. I am concerned about maturity more than anything. Beane's presser he said the biggest frustration was Colemans inability to get it together as a pro as he is very young. The talent is there, but he really needs to learn the ins and outs of being a pro from practice to 100% intensity in games. The final against NE he mailed in that game and it was telling. I like the kid a lot but he needs to really evolve as a professional more than anything if he is to become a really dynamic player. It is why I said the offense and Josh specifically need to play the way they did this year in terms of taking the easy stuff while waiting for the kill shot. The defense will not get the same amount of turnovers, but the offense can limit theirs. Brady and NE excelled at rarely giving you anything to work with in terms of turnovers which made it incredibly tough to beat them.

Thank you and I will say this about Coleman and Kincaid. Every offseason posters will put up best case scenario for the team and certain players. I can't remember how many "Curtis Samuel is putting up 1300 total yards season" posts/comments came without maybe considering he could just be average or actually kind of stink. Conversely Spencer Brown was thrown to the wolves for his first two years before emerging into a truly good RT. I agree with you that there is legitimate reason to be skeptical about Coleman (lack of separation/speed) & Kincaid (not big enough and regressed this year). By the same token I won't be surprised if one of them emerges into a solid player. Not saying they become like Brown who has emerged into a real pro bowl caliber player, but into a solid starter.

Were enhancing the operation of the team to spying also now lol

Meant autopsy but it autocorrect to autospy and with this picture response I’m not changing it haha I expect him to be one of their starting two outside WR. I thought he had some good moments, but overall a C+ campaign. Injury didn’t help but he looked very immature at times.

Background: The Bills 2024 season came in with low expectations as the team reset its talent base with many veterans leaving holes that needed to be filled by youth and cheaper free agent additions. The division was expected to be a dog fight and the conference itself a buzzsaw as usual with the typical faces up to ready for battle What Happened: The Bills exploded through the season to a 13-4 record as QB Josh Allen put up an MVP worthy season, the offense became more balanced than ever setting a record for TDs scored between rushing/passing, the defense was solid for the most part, and the Bills cakewalked to a 5th consecutive division crown. The Bills entered the post season with a formable path but the first two games at home before having to head to the monster known as KC. The Bills blitzkrieg through the Broncos and then outlived the Ravens setting up another matchup in Kansas City. Time of Passing: 9:45 EST as a prayer of a pass was dropped by Dalton Kincaid Cause of Death: The defense for a 5th straight elimination failed to keep the opposition under 27 points and couldn't get any pressure on Mahomes who had another lights out game, the coaching staff was a step behind the opposition the entire time, special teams failed to make plays in coverage, some questionable calls hurt opportunities for Buffalo to stay ahead, and the offense had a B to B+ performance at best on a day they need to be A- to A with the defense struggling. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Antidotes & Remedies For The 2025 Season Offense: -Needs to add another pass catcher that can be better at separation and more dynamic on deep balls -Offensive coordinator who had a very good first year needs to be more creative in short yardage situations and less predictable at times vs better schemed defenses -Keep the theme of limiting turnovers and playing fundamentally sound through 2025. The Bills offense was very successful at creating opportunities because they did not let the opposition get turnovers or favorable starting points. Defense: -Add a bluechip pass rusher if at all possible. The Bills have two really nice/good at times rushers in Oliver/Rousseau who have had their moments but come up small when it matters. The names are out there for trade that could truly add some punch. -In general realign the talent base on the defensive line which has decisions to be made with Von, Jones, Phillips, & Smoot. DeWayne Carter was drafted last year and he had some solid moments in 2024 as did Javon Solomon, but the defensive line truly needs more young talent to build with. -Move on from Rasual Douglas who faded unfortunately in 2024 after a nice 2023, cut Elam if he can't be traded, and fine a true CB2 to play alongside Benford. The idea of DJ Reed mixed with a CB in round 2/3 would give a CB group of Benford Reed Johnson Rookie Ingram which takes a decent core into potentially elite level. -Safety Bishop looks ready to take the reigns with Rapp. Let Hamlin go and if a quality veteran exists consider adding them for insurance. -Add a defensive coach from outside the org for fresh ideas and perspective. Babich/McD had some good and bad in 2024 but again got their lunch eaten in January. The defense has not added an outside voice to the staff since Frazier. The time is present to reframe the approach and adjust. GM: -Be more aggressive with your needs in the draft rather than splitting one eggs. Elam & Coleman are examples of drafting need but trying to do so without taking a swing. Brian Thomas & McDuffie both were available in those drafts and Buffalo did not move for them. For as good as Beane has drafted overall, his last 3 picks to lead off the draft have left a lot to be desired in terms of impact (Elam/Kincaid/Coleman) and in general his best two first round picks being Josh/Edmunds both being in 2018. Again Oliver 2019 & Rousseau 2021 have been decent to at times very good and Diggs was acquired with the 2020 1st which was awesome. But with the window as open as it can be and resources finally back to being plentiful the time is now to make a trade for a proven player or move up for a player that has that bluechip impact you can't normally find in 20-32 range.

Agreed although im starting to enjoy the hotel california feel of this thread lol

The bigger issue is PHI in the game instead of literally any other opponent. KC at least is going for history with a threepeat and the whole Taylor swift element adds viewers whether I care or not. But there is nothing interesting about PHI to me and it creates another boring rematch like last year.

Which is why everyone saying like "this was a reset next year will be better with FA & new guys". Um the team was historically on pace in multiple categories which means regression from turnovers to health. Even if the talent on the team improves there is a higher percentage chance they finished 11-6 than they repeat this record or better. Additionally against BAL while I think their gameplan was quite solid they still benefited from the bounces (literally between fumbles & dropped passes). It is always a bear to make a run and the deeper you go the harder it is to replicate even if your talent base improves... unless your KC I guess.

I mean its not really a slight Reid-McVay are untouchable top 2 after that: Kevin O'Connell-Kyle Shanahan-Matt Lafluer-John Harbuagh-Jim Harbaugh all have had tremendous success and are credited for their coaching being a difference maker in big games. No way I put McD above any of them. So now your talking Dan Campbell, Sean Payton, Nick Siriani, Mike Tomlin, Dan Quinn all as guys to fill out the last three spots. McD would rank someone in that group. So yeah fringe top 10 feels about right depending on how you respect coaching what each guy does.

At this point I have just accepted that McD will be the coach for better or worse. He it probably a fringe top 10 guy in the league which means he is better than a lot but when he has to go against a Reid or coach of that caliber we are immediately at a disadvantage. To me in general the coach gm org itself is fringe top 10 but Allen raises the boats, Pegula knows if he touches it he risks losing the winning even though you can see a change could help. IF they actually ever break through its going to be because Josh was perfect and/or the defense finally makes some plays with competent enough coaching. But I am now pessimistic of even that happening anymore. You made the point with Levy getting out coached. I watched a thing on one of the two SBs vs Dallas and Johnson literally trained his players fumble protection and for defense proper technique to create fumbles. He excelled at even small things like that. Come SB sure enough it pays off for Dallas. Levy & McD are great leaders of men and macro mgmt type coaches, but the finer points slip when the details matter. Honestly Joe Brady regardless of the AFC title game showed more to me in terms of detail in his season and half then anything McD has done.

I absolutely loathe the Hasek comparison. With respect to Josh, Hasek is virtually the best hockey goalie of all time and only maybe Roy challenges him when you break out the advanced stats on how much Hasek did. By comparison Josh is going to be one of the top 3 for his era which is superb, but he is not going to be in the Mahomes Brady Montana Manning group unless he adds a ton of hardware quickly and some rings. They are not remotely comparable as players at this time despite my love for 17 and everything he has done. Josh had a good game not great and it isn't unfair to say he should've been a bit better, but that also factors in the entire team (minus Cook & Mack) and coaches should have been better. Somehow it is being lost that saying "I wish Josh did a little more" means throwing out that he still was let down by his defense and coaches. No one ever has pointed a finger at him for 21' because he was perfect in 13 seconds, he takes a little blame for this year and last year because he was a grade of B-B+ in both games and had errors not just limited to the last drive. This isn't year 2 or 3 anymore either, the hour glass is starting to lose sand and everyone is starting to feel like if not now then when.

lmao thought the same and had a lottttt of questions on his football credentials

I am sorry but it does not go back to 13 seconds and to me that game has forever been overblown. 13 seconds is a symptom just like the loss Sunday of the teams inability to breakthrough whether due to coaching, failed execution, ref calls, bad luck, or 17 himself not being at his best. I understand why people harp on 13 seconds but it fails to acknowledge: 1. The game did not get them to the SB 2. They had to win two more games to actually win the SB. 3. CIN was an absolute nightmare in 21 and 22 as shown by our loss. Just because the AFC title game was at home was no lock by any means that they would win and the Rams themselves were a more then formidable foe in that SB. 13 seconds is romanticized as the one because the offense was at its peak at the right time and it was year 3 of the rebuild so it still felt fresh and new. It fails to ignore reality that they did not win the SB that day and much work was needed to do that. Where I am in agreement with 13 seconds is that is when Camelot fell in terms of no criticism of coach/gm and the Bills finally missed their first chance at a good look at the SB. Up until this game everything had felt like progress and building, 13 seconds was the first fall nothing more. If the Bills keep spinning their tires and don't breakthrough long term 24' will look like a far larger miss than 13 seconds. Fits their narrative. It has been my biggest complaint with fans about 13 seconds is that somehow they not only beat KC but somehow won 2 other games and the SB in the divisional round. Major miss? Absolutely. Worse than this last Sunday? No way.

I have really wondered if the Bengals trade down and add more picks. I think Higgins walks but they need an infusion of talent on defense badly and it feels like they try to solve more problems rather then just taking a WR even if Higgins goes. The issue for CIN was not offense and Burrow can raise the floor for younger or lesser FA WR, like BUF this last year they really need to restock the defense if their goal is to get back with BAL.

If I were to rank them adjusting for era as the game was different literally for each QB comparatively I would go as followed: 1. Bradshaw 2. Kelly 3. Allen 4. Big Ben The game is in a whole different world now compared to the 1970s. In the 1970s the top 3 QBs were Staubach, Bradshaw, & Tarkenton. Bradshaw has the hardware, was a top 3 guy, has an MVP, was all decade, 2 SB MVPs etc.. he carries the weight across the board both talent for the time and accomplishments. I understand todays generation does not understand how drastically the game has changed, but era wise Bradshaw was a GOAT the way Josh is with Lamar & Mahomes except Bradshaw has all the hardware too. After that Kelly doesn't have a ring but he has everything else and for his time was again with in that Top 3 group. Additionally at retirement only Fran Tarkenton, Dan Fouts, and Johnny Unitas among Hall of Fame quarterbacks had passed for more yardage, and only Tarkenton, and Fouts had completed more passes. His impact on the game with the K Gun was revolutionary for its time. And to Kellys defense he led the team down for GW FG in SB25, he did his part even if he had a good not great game. Allen is clearly top 3 in the league and him & Lamar flip flop daily it feels for being #2 after Mahomes. Things get tricky because he has no hardware and no SB appearances at this point. But Big Ben for as good as he was never got an All Pro (either 1st or 2nd), no SB MVP although he was good in their 2nd SB win, and during his time of play he was never in Brady or Peytons class. There was a legitimate argument that he was the worst of the big 3 in the draft of 2004 and got drafted to the best situation compared to Rivers or Eli which only helped inflate his accomplishments. Big Ben is going to the HOF in a few years, but to me he is in the really really good crop of players not era defining. Allen is going to finish era defining regardless of hardware which is why I can get him to 3. If Allen wants to crack the top 2 he needs some hardware though at this point.

This is a fair point and I would add this offseason really is big in terms of the next 3-4 years as they have a youthful core that needs a bit more to push it over the edge. My counter point though is the Ravens were better this year than last regardless of record yet flamed out a game earlier. Yes more talent and resources can be added so the team has a larger margin of error and weapons to work with, but opportunity cost is real. Odds are they are not making the AFC title game the next 3 years straight and Josh has played half his prime. You had a truly golden chance to punch that ticket and missed. It is just as hard if not harder to get back to where they were on Sunday. I am not willing to write off this season as pure positive because the expectation was reload/reset when the big dance was right there. My confidence is admittedly shaken in the team and 17 so I won't comment further, but logically your more on point as is Joe than many of us want to hear right now.