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Except if he retired - why did he play against the Falcons? They got Star back - I really don’t understand this post.

Except Brown had already played a bunch - he had 5 targets and 3 catches in the game already for 21 yards - so I am not sure where the narrative that they were holding him out to prevent him getting bonuses comes from. If the Bucs wanted to prevent him from reaching the bonuses - playing him in the first half and targeting him more than anyone else makes little sense. It also makes no sense that Arians would be trying to put him back in - if they wanted to ensure he didn’t reach the bonuses.

I think there are several reasons that he didn’t stick with McKenzie back there - primarily because he is on a 1 year contract and if (at the time) his main job is returning and he is fumbling (like he did early in his career) - that is who he is as a returner. Stevenson is a rookie with lots to learn and a 3 year contract - so much more developmental. What really sucks for this team is McKenzie can return punts, but struggles with kickoffs, Stevenson is better at Kickoff returns, but seems less sure on punts, but going forward - you do not want 2 separate guys doing that. My guess is that is something they look for in the off season - one player that can do both consistently.

Are the Browns still making the playoffs? I think not! Congrats to the Bengals.

Josh is a mid range and longer passer. The wind (and snow/cold) are more impactful on longer throws. Josh is and will be more impacted in weather games than a player like Tom Brady or even Mac Jones that are happy taking check downs throughout the game. Domes enhance the edge that a big passing game has over dink/dunk type offenses. Today was just another sign - early when Josh was warm and fresh - he was crisp. When he started getting tight - he was terrible throwing the ball.

I just don’t see Carolina moving on from Rhule. I think Tepper wants to look smart and therefore will over spend to get players for Rhule because that was his guy. He overpayed and gave additional years to Rhule to keep him from NYJ interviews - I suspect he has another 2 years there to get things right. Carolina - I think they will try to be in play for every big name QB for Tepper to try and buy his way to success. I expect they will inquire about Russ, Rodgers, and Watson - with only Watson really being in play for them. I really expect them to do some stupid Houston like trades to quickly try and buy a playoff team. They are the team I am watching this off season to set the bar for how not to build a team.

Better than if he goes back and hires Marrone as OL or OC to return a favor. 🤮

I think @GunnerBill is dead on with his take about Hackett. I think if some team is taking a run at Rodgers (and he decides to leave) - Hackett may be the key to getting him in. I really see Denver as the primary fit (NYG would also fit, but that is not Mara’s style and I think they might work on prying Russ out of Seattle).

I expect it will be attractive, but only to limited QBs. I don’t expect they will make an attractive offer to get anyone and I think Russ made it clear before - his Wife is a big part of the decision - so I don’t think Pittsburgh is a viable option at all for Russ. I think Russ wants NY metro or Miami and the Seahawks would prefer someplace east coast and away. I think this works itself out. I think Rodgers either stays put or works out a Denver trade - only with a HC change to an offensive guy he approves of - ex Hackett etc. I think the Miami/Giants loser and Carolina battle it out over Watson. I think Pittsburgh has drafted a few QBs and will look to pick up a younger veteran like Bridgewater/Lock or Jordan Love if Rodgers stays and signs an extension. I could really see Kirk Cousins end up here if he leaves Minny - he would be the ideal replacement for what they want to become.

I am not getting worked up over a Practice squad RB. I will wait and see what moves follow. My guess is you have some other thin positions like OL and the players the team has called up the maximum number of times in the regular season. They may need the spot for extra depth players and once they get through the next 2 weeks - he will be back or signed to a futures contract. It just is worth speculating that there was an issue - most likely a roster/team depth issue as guys come back.

Yep - in the NE in particular - there were several plays exactly like that where he came through and wrapped up the RB in the backfield. Without being a part of the team - it sure looked to me like he had a specific job in the game plan and he executed that part perfectly. The play in where everyone seems to be complaining- it looked to be like he and maybe Oliver had a twist going on and he attacked into the RB and was basically taking up space - so the twist could come around. He would then have responsibility for the QB escaping the pocket through the front - so he can’t just blow through because then they lose responsibility. At least that is what I saw from the angles at home.

Can I ask this - what is his coverage assignment when he blitzes like that? I saw him blitz several times in the NE game (and others before) and head right into the RB, but slow down before contact and contain the RB. I am not sure they are always blitzing him for pressure - especially against a guy like Jones. Jones likes to hit the little dump offs to the backs and by blitzing him up the middle - it keeps the back in. Then Edmunds on multiple occasions wrapped up the RB to prevent him from block/release routes or screening off routes. I think the idea is to limit the throws Jones was comfortable making and force him to throw to WRs - where we make plays. He does not play with strength/power at all - he plays with leverage- when he takes on tackles, guards, RBs, TEs, - anything - he typically plays a square up and stays an arm length away - even to the point of backing up. It is not a normal technique, but for this defense it seems to work.

It is hard unless you have an open spot on the roster. They filled Ike with Hart. So you really can’t steal anyone from a PS. My guess is we will have a bunch in, but these are all below PS quality. Would love to have seen them poach someone and leave Hart on the PS, but experience counts sometimes.

Nope - nothing has changed except instead of 52 stupid beer commercials- we now get 10 stupid gambling commercials thrown in.

Forget the stupid FA formula - this should all count in the compensatory picks. My god it is ridiculous.

Why is that LOL? If he was on it for 15 days - he was probably symptomatic and who knows how ill. Others have hit 12+ days. I do not see anything funny with it - sorry. Beasley could be back depending on symptoms. 10 days is Friday - He should clear Sat in time for Sunday’s game.

What in play adjustment does he need to make on this play to make you happy? He filled his hole and played off the tackle so that if the cutback was properly filled by either DB they force him right to Edmunds for a 4-5 yard gain. If Edmunds cuts down and plays the hole Harris actually hits that leaves a gapping hole front side for Harris and a Tackle with no one to block. What you really want here is a Elite HOF type play where Edmunds crashes into the LT to block that hole and then slides off and perfectly fills a second hole. That is not what you are ever going to get from Edmunds. Most people seem to agree he is elite talent and about a top 10 ILB - he is not Ray Lewis - which is what you are asking for. The problem is people try to grade him against elite MLBs and Edmunds is not a MLB. He and Milano are essentially 2 LBs covering the majority of the field. The team consistently runs a small front and a nickel package - so it should be very easy to run against. They specifically gameplan to force issues in the passing game. The DLine is not drafted and designed to clog running lanes, the 2 LBs are not big bruisers, and the 3rd LB role is filled by Taron Johnson. They only stop the run by everyone doing their job and filling in the holes and when they get out of position you get a big run. He is what he is - he is a top end LB that plays most plays exactly as they should be played and when others are doing their job - the defense is tight. Otherwise it is a mess and due to their size - sometimes even being perfect isn’t enough as a big line can dominate. In that case you need an offense that can score - which is exactly what the Bills have.

I believe they said Ike had an Achilles in college - other leg - he recovered and got his explosiveness back from that one - he can do it again. The worst part for him is that he is a UFA after this season. He loses out on a chance to sign and will most likely not be 100% to start the year. I would not be surprised to see the Bills offer him something to allow him to get healthy and come back during the season and maintain his rehab, but his current contract expires after this season.

That is what I thought also. The Pats switched things up constantly, but Josh had the answer each time. They played a lot of man, zone, and man/zone combos. They tried to trick and force Josh into some reads, but Josh did well - especially early to throw to outlets and move the chain. I think much like the Bills - the Pats rushed the passer in a specific way trying to maintain leverage on Josh, but Josh was the better player. The difference between game 1+2 was all weather. The Bills built a lead because Josh could throw early and often and that allowed them to score. The lead forced NE to become more balanced leading to TOs. The OLine for Buffalo played well, but not great - Josh was great. Dion (with a bit of help) held up well against Judon, but I think Judon was playing contain/spy sometimes - also helping. The middle still let guys like Barmore get through to often, but there was space for Josh to move and guys open.

WTF - then you are rooting for the wrong team troll. Considering they stopped them most of the game - I will take it every time. My goodness there are one ignorant people on this board now. What a downhill trend it has been.

Exactly and either way the “fan base” grades him a minus for doing his job correctly. Could it be better - yep, but unless there was a switch the hole was there for Johnson and Jackson to fill.

See - this is an issue - watching the actual play Edmund did not overrun the play. He fills his gap with the tackle. The issue is at the snap Johnson is moving to the middle of the field and he runs passed Edmunds - even with the WR coming down to block. The gap that was run through was his gap. When the WR looked to block down - then Dane Jackson playing a tail technique- should have been the fill - he was the unblocked defender led right to the hole by the WR. He recognized it to late and was passed. The front did fine - especially playside, but Phillips held up, but was moved enough to open the backside hole and the 2 CBs in Johnson and Jackson took themselves out of the play. They preach one of 11 and then when the guy covers his hole and allows a cut back - he gets blamed by people that have no idea what they are watching. Yes it would have been great if both Milano and Edmunds attacked that harder and faster and maybe closed down the holes a bit tighter or if Phillips had driven down into his block and not allowed the hole to open. If Edmunds had pursued less and been in the hole Damien eventually went through - a different hole would have been right where Edmunds was and the tackle would of had an easy block on Edmunds and Johnson.

Mostly because you are looking at things after the fact and think that means you know something. You would be feeling totally different if we had retained Teller because he would of been cut after how bad he played in year 1 in Cleveland. He would never have fit with the offensive scheme in Buffalo. He blossomed finally under the run first offensive change with Stefanski. In Buffalo - he looks more like Feliciano or Ford than the Cleveland version of Teller because he is spending 80% of the game pass blocking - more passive than the Cleveland running attack. McKenzie was resigned as an afterthought when pretty much no one else in the league offered him anything as a FA. He has had 2 good games in 5 years in the NFL as a wideout. Last time he had a game like this against Miami - he got hurt and missed time and was limited. He is quick and fast and is capable of running some routes and if he continues to grow great, but I would not expect to see him repeat this much more. He is a chess piece that can be used, but he is not a Tyree Hill player. He is just another piece to be used in a game plan as needed.

Agreed - hopefully Feliciano comes back and can be back-up center/inside guard and allow Bates to play guard the rest of the season. I think the best line was seen yesterday and you can interchange Ike and Bates. Ike a bit stronger, Bates more athletic.

When Ike went down. They moved everyone but Morse. Dion to LT, Brown to RT, Williams to RG, and Bates to LG. Might actually be their best line with Ike for Bates.