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This thread is probably the reason Trubisky got Covid

This is a scary night to go to sleep... it's like anti-Christmas. I wake up with either a pleasant or unpleasant surprise. Unpleasant is obviously that Josh is out and confirmation that he's unvaxxed becomes pretty solid. Pleasant would be Josh being able to play. Pleasant for the obvious reason that I love watching Josh Allen play football. But also pleasant because it would pretty solidly confirm what I suspected since the Summer: despite his initial hesitancy, Josh did the best thing for the team and got vaccinated. And to be clear, I still think we could and probably should win even if Webb starts.

Really interesting and thorough interview with Cossell. He starts talking about the Jags but then moves into a discussion about Josh for a good bit. He emphasizes that not only does he believe that Josh is the most physically gifted QB in the NFL, he actually thinks Josh is becoming the best QB in the NFL. And he points to last weekend's game against Miami as an example of one of Josh's best games according to the film.

I don't even participate in "predict the score" threads because I feel the same way about them, to a lesser degree. But at least "predict the score" threads leave room for the possibility of a loss. Your thread doesn't even suggest that there's a possibility we lose--which we might... it's the NFL, afterall--and also suggests we'll inevitably blow the Jags out. Hope it happens. Probably could happen. But it might not. But this is the NFL... give me a W.

So the majority of poll takers agree with me. Trubisky comes in well into the 4th quarter. And remember, all of this is assuming we're blowing the Jags out. I hate threads like this that put the cart before the horse. Let's just make sure we get a W, please.

Well... is it a violation to do pressers unmasked if you're unvaccinated? If it is, there's been incredibly negligence on the league's part.

Beas is unvaccinated and is doing in-person unmasked PCs. I don't think it's a rule that unvaxxed players need to wear masks in front of the media... if it is, everyone's turning a blind eye to it.

Dude... this isn't the freakin preseason!!! If we're up by more than 3 scores 4 or 5 minutes left in the game is the ONLY time you want to see him, and it's not inevitable that we win by more than 3 scores. This is the NFL... it's possible this game is close for awhile.

What is the "stuff" you're talking about? I always thought one of them was supposed to be an unvaccinated player needs to wear a mask in Press Conferences or do it via Zoom, but we all have seen Beasely do PCs maskless, including the other day.

I have a question... anyone know anything about this guy? He claims Josh is unvaccinated. I know MONTHS ago he wasn't... is this guy just assuming he still isn't because of what he said on Kyle Brandt's little 10 things gameshow in the offseason?

Well... they have the same record, the same number of TDs, the same number of turnovers, but Allen has more yards. On top of that Stafford is throwing to another MVP candidate in Kupp, while Allen is not. That probably hurts Stafford the slightest bit... unless he loses Kupp for a game or 2 and does what Rodgers just did without Adams. So... Allen

Diggs is still on pace for 1,200 yards. I'm just not concerned. the team is still winning convincingly. We just have room for improvement... and that's a good thing.

Was that English?

Your refusal to factor in rushing yards and TDs in the NFL MVP conversation in today's NFL proves you're just being obstinate. 2015 NFL MVP Cam Newton and 2019 NFL MVP Lamar Jackson called me and told me to tell you that.

How can that not be an angry run nominee? He has to break 3 tackles. And they were all tackles that should have happened. The one guy hanging onto his waste should have had him and then the 2 guys in front of him should have had him. Allen is just a special angry beast.

Over the last few days we've had 2 of the biggest MVP candidates talked about in this thread essentially exit the conversation. Kyler Murray has an ankle injury that's going to keep him out 1-3 weeks. Still possible for him, but I don't even think he would be a favorite over Allen pre-injury. Henry--unfortunately for all real football fans--is done for weeks and potentially the season. Such a shame.

Brady just sealed a loss throwing a pick 6 today. He's played 1 more game than Allen so he has a handful more TDs but also a handful more Turnovers. Stafford? Really? Yeah... he's definitely in the MVP conversation, but he wouldn't be so far ahead of Allen, if at all. He's played 1 more game and has 2 more TDs and the same number of Turnovers. And they average about the same amount of yards per game. And Murray is about to exit the MVP conversation because he's gonna miss 1-3 games with an ankle injury. And besides, he's also played 1 more game than Allen, has the same number of TDs and a handful more Turnovers. This is not going well for you.

Why is Brady one of the only 2 choices and not Allen? Brady has played 1 more game than Allen and yes he has 6 more TDs but also a few more Turnovers. And in terms of Yards per game they're about even when you include rushing yards. And both teams have 2 losses. And the game losing pick six

Who would be in the top 3?

Ummm... who ya got ahead of him?

Anyone else wonder why we bother running the ball sometimes? Solid game by Josh. It seemed clear our OL was a lesser version of itself without Brown at RT. Sloppy 1st half but the team looked much stronger in the 2nd. Love the focus on getting Beasley the ball. Anyone else impressed that for what appeared to be an average game for Allen still had him with over 300 total yards, 3 TDs and 0 turnovers?

I've made my case. Argue with people in the NFL or who make their living working with them and studying them:

Ummmm... are you being serious? I said Allen is the most physically gifted QB in the NFL and possibly NFL history. Natural gifts broadens the scope too much to intangibles like mental makeup, leadership, competitiveness and instincts--though I'd say Allen is in the upper echelon of 3/4 of those... to me it's his instincts that could hold him back. I'm going to repeat the physical traits that Allen has that really can't be taught: Size... and I'm talking height and body frame combined. Herbert and Lawrence might be taller, but they don't have Allen’s thick frame. That matters for obvious reasons including injury risk and diffdifficulty to tackle. Strength... Herbert and Lawrence aren't as strong as Allen. No QB in the NFL is as strong as him from toes to shoulders. Also matters for obvious reasons like shedding tacklers, which we've seen Allen do over and over. Speed... Lamar and Kyler are faster, but they don't compare to Allen in other categories. It's pretty obvious to anyone watching Allen that he has unique speed especially for a man his size. Athleticism... I said elusiveness before, but even that should fall under the category of athleticism. And I say that because of the hurdling of defenders we've seen from Allen. He’s also twitchy and elusive for a guy his size. Arm Strength... obviously unique to a QB so a separate category from Strength in general. The only QBs comparable in terms of arm strength to Allen would be Mahomes and Rodgers. So yes, Allen is more physically gifted than Herbert and Lawrence. I agree.