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Before making a statement like "this was on another level," you should have gone back to understand the context of all those multi interception games by all those HOF/Elite QBs. Myopic viewpoint without those.

Seriously? This was the worst game of Josh Allen's career. But Josh said today that he may have another game he throws 3 interceptions. That's just reality. Peyton Manning had four 4 interception games and one 6 interception game with at least 6 years experience in the NFL. Aaron Rodgers had two 3 interception games with at least 6 years experience in the NFL. Tom Brady had two 4 interception games with at least 6 years experience in the NFL. Drew Brees had four 3 interception games, two 4 interception games, and one 5 interception game with at least 6 years experience in the NFL. Mahomes had a 3 interception game last year. Burrow had a 4 interception game last year. Saying this game by Josh was at a different level of badness is just a myopic perspective.

That last interception was perhaps largely on Gabe's piss poor route running. Aikman and Buck were talking about it on the broadcast. If Gabe gave even the slightest head juke to the inside Whitehead would have likely been delayed enough for a completion there. Instead, he ran straight to a spot. Either Diggs hasn't taken Gabe under his wing and taught him how to run routes or Gabe is a terrible learner.

Fair question because I would also like to see Allen under Center a lot more. That's a Dorsey issue. But I think you could see the shifts in alignment and run philosophy as well. Just don't love all the shotgun habdoffs.

Just added that to the post actually. I think the atmosphere there was huge. You could hear it during the National Anthem. I've never heard the National Anthem sung so loudly in unison by the fans. Have you? I think the build up to that game all offseason and then the stage itself begged Josh to play hero and he tried to oblige, but failed miserably. But Josh bounces back from his bad games in his career. And with this being maybe the worst he's ever played, I think it's more than 1 game.

Have we all taken our deep breaths yet? Let's be honest, the Bills have wildly shifted their offensive philosophy. I understand it didn't necessarily look like that in the game against the Jets, but the Bills went from being the team with the lowest percentage of 12 personnel in the NFL last season to being the highest in week 1. That signals a massive offensive philosophy shift. But obviously it didn't look like that on the field, which was really just because of poor choices by Josh yesterday. Josh played what I think was his worst game in the NFL yesterday. So what? Disregard his previous 5 years? It took 5 years, but suddenly he's figured out? Idiotic. Josh will have bad games in the future obviously, but I think he needs to get his feet under him in this offensive philosophy. The Jets, in hindsight, may have been the worst team to trot out a new offensive philosophy and try to get comfortable against. It was Monday night on September 11th in the general metropolitan area and the atmosphere was clearly electric. Hero Ball from Josh seemed almost inevitable looking back on it. On top of all this, Sean McDermott is calling the defense (with a brand new young MLB) for the first time ever as Head Coach... mighta been an issue... particularly on an 83 yard run where everyone was misaligned. I was actually impressed with the play of Bernard and especially Benford on our D. I just think this idea that this national narrative in the offseason that "the Bills didn't improve because they stayed the same" is, at best, half true. We still have to wait to see if the Bills improved... but a lot has changed: Shift to 12 personnel All the offensive philosophies that go with that Shift to HC as DC (How much is he in Josh's ear) 2 new OL New QB of the Defense in Bernard New CB2 etc.

And he caught all 4 of his targets. please please please can Dorsey find a way to set our offensive game plan up so Kincaid is always in that short to intermediate part of the field as a safety valve to Josh and start making him the first read?

Honestly, I think Dorsey's playcalling is what's hurting Josh. A lot of weird calls putting us in bad down and distance situations and suddenly Josh feels like he has to be the hero. I think against most Defenses he could be just that. But the Jets D is clearly pretty awesome. I really would have liked to see more intermediate throws with Kincaid in the middle of the field in our game plan. And what happened to traditional play action with Josh under center? He's always thrived under that and utilizing more of those run plays under center would probably help Cook, too. The whole "Josh is broken" narrative is beyond ridiculous, but this team needs to get things right, and Josh and Dorsey are at the center of it.

How about bad 2nd half against the Packers in a game in hand, the Jets have Josh's number and an elbow injury...? Horrible game, but let's not say stupid stuff like Josh is a bad QB

Actually, I thought he was better than I expected. I might have had a low bar though.

You heard the part of Buffalo needing a new stadium a few years ago, right? Ya think a team extending a 17 year playoff drought to 20+ and beyond with a mediocre QB is getting the public backing for funding? Nice name

Josh Allen is literally the greatest thing to happen to Buffalo. He ensured the team will never leave. The new stadium truly should have his name on it. For that reason alone, Bills fans should never complain. Regardless, all these reports are ridiculous. Jordan Palmer works with Josh every offseason and always raves about how hard he works and how badly he wants a Lombardi.

Holy crap! I think we might have the best roster in the NFL when you combine roster and practice squad! I can't believe we pulled Ingram back to the PS. That along with Isabella, Kirksey and Ankou as our vet PS players along with all the young potential we pulled in like Ateman, Shavers and Kline and I'm stoked!

Does anyone know the exact terms of the trade? When they're announced can the OP please post them so we don't have to sift through 25 pages of crap that complain about a guy being moved who was never going to contribute to this team this year, anyway?

You left out "it's in my blood." For the record, I have watched every single Bills game rooting for them, including that terrible 2010 team.

Horrifying. The local news has been consumed by this and you just can't take yourself away from each individual horror story. Gonna end up being the worst fire in American history. Shouldn't happen in modern times. We're super dry in the state generally, though. Wednesday I drove next to a brush fire on Wednesday in Wahiawa that burned 450 acres. Today I heard there was another brush fire on Old Farrington Road between where I live and where my in-laws live. @GoBills808 I'm glad you and your farm are okay. Big Island so frequently gets hit hard... glad you were spared of this. Need the rainy season

I really don't mean to make a joke about this because my sister is bipolar, but I truly thought this was going to be a thread about the main page and all Bills fans after preseason game #2.

I did the same. Watched a replay 24 hours after the game but read the comments first. People are stupid. Kincaid is going to be a stud. Might as well try to lock Davis up long term already. Allen will still be one of the 3 best QBs in the NFL this year. 3 biggest takeaways from this game.

Josh Allen is still amazing. Dalton Kincaid is going to be amazing.

Ya know I watched this game a day late after reading all these sky is falling threads. Allen, Diggs, Davis, Kincaid, Torrence looked good. Our D will be fine. Need OT depth... but might be fine with what we have. Got blown out after 2 bad plays and a ton of uncharacteristic penalties. Bring on the regular season, please.

Wait... is Pooona Ford #98???? Are you sure you meant to say he had a bad night?

Isn't he 900 years old?

Thanks... sounds like he's been having a good camp. WR is seriously a position to watch in preseason with Isabella/Shorter/Davis/Harty/Sherfield.

Why is that? Everyone is going nuts over Gabe's camp. Sherfield by all reports has also been really good. If I had my choice, I would sign Gabe to a long term deal right now somewhere in the $10-$15m range. I bet his agent is seeking north of that, though. I know you enjoy trolling me, which is fine. That said, Sherfield isn't a scrub. Harty isn't a scrub. And dare I bring up the fact that Isabella has been impressing a lot of people in camp... and not just as a KR/PR...? Keep Gabe if we can. But Gabe isn't one of the irreplaceable pieces of this offense.

Yes, 100%. I'm in one of 2 boats: 1) Sign him to an extension NOW!!!! He is only going to get more expensive. Keep in mind it's not just about how he plays this year, it's also about the WR market. The WR market seems to be trending up, so even if he has another year resembling last year, I think he's going to be looking at a contract north of $15m per year next offseason. If we lock him up now, we could potentially get him for less. OR 2) Trade him for assets that will help us to draft a true #1B WR opposite Diggs in next year's draft. Everyone knows I started a thread about this that seems unpopular, but from all reports in camp, it looks like we'll have more weapons than we had last year even without Davis. And with the shift in our offense to more 12 personnel with Kincaid and Knox and how both are looking in camp, I don't know that putting Sherfield opposite Diggs with Knox, Kincaid and Cook as our other weapons is that huge a downgrade. Plus we'd have plenty of draft capital for cost-controlled, inexpensive talent. And yes, I realize some are pointing out the compensatory pick thing, but that also requires that you let some of your other UFAs walk and you don't sign as many as you let walk. It requires you basically sit on your hands and choose not to upgrade your team or maintain what you have in order to acquire a 3rd or 4th round draft pick.