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Listened to Joe Marino's podcast yesterday and he posed a pretty interesting perspective on the Daboll thing. The narrative is that Brian Daboll made Josh Allen. Marino posits that maybe it's the other way around and it's Josh Allen who made Daboll. Part of the argument is the relatively steady offensive production in being one of the top NFL offenses even after Daboll left and Daboll's Giants being one of the bottom half NFL offenses. I think it's a bit of an oversimplification, but I also think the folks (Colin Cowherd) who say Brian Daboll was the brilliant coordinator who reined in Josh Allen is an oversimplification. And maybe it's absolutely false, considering the amount of time Josh spent with Jordan Palmer working on his game for so many offseasons.

And now to move past all the bickering. Some posters on this board are like terrible girlfriends: Always bringing up past mistakes to explain how they feel about something you've said or done today. Gotta show this one again from this angle:

See what I said before regarding Thurm and being the King of Ad Hominem attacks. You're just a Prince, though. At least Thurm's are intelligently constructed.

Tyrod is long gone. I moved on a long time ago. Some posters bizarrely have not. I was wrong about Tyrod. Who cares?

I remember distinctly right after we got him you said "he's going to be a stud."

This is true. At one point I said that. But this also lacks context. I also said 6 months before the draft in 2017 we would make the playoffs and Beane would/should trade up for a QB. I was a strong advocate for drafting a QB with Tyrod at the helm in a year we made it to the playoffs for the 1st time in 17 years. We all get things wrong. You got Josh Allen wrong, too. A lot of people really didn't want to draft him. It wasn't just me. @GoBills808 should get a ton of credit for wanting him and saying he'd be a stud even before we drafted him. And now that that tangent is over, the sky is green, grass is blue, and Josh Allen is accurate... Just because I said 2 of those things and they're false doesn't mean one isn't true.

Have you seen Thurm's posts? If not, you'll find several in this thread. If I have a lengthy post every once in awhile at this point--and lengthy is a relative term, but I don't believe I have too many all that often--it's going to be to say something about the team, not to try to win a ridiculous rhetorical argument the way some (@Thurman#1) here spend most of their time doing. I'm not guiltless in never arguing a point for awhile with someone, but when it's clearly pointless because the other poster just uses constant logical fallacies or is just generally a stubborn, unlikeable (on the Internet) ass... I think I've done well enough lately to learn to stop.

Love your posts in general. @Thurman#1 is really just the King of the Ad Hominem attack. It's been several years at this point already that I've pretty much stopped initiating conversation with him. For whatever reason he always feels the need to chime in and give me his War and Peace responses to things that I say, probably knowing that I won't take the time (I don't have it... I'm not retired like he must be) to respond to every individual point that he makes and every accusation he points at me that's incorrect. He likes to create hyperbolic if not utterly false narratives and he hides them within ridiculous, long-winded posts that lack context. For example: He's right that I said that Tyrod Taylor was "near-Elite" at one point. It was during his best year in 2015. I never said it after that point. I also said I was wrong about him multiple times after. Thurm apparently believes that being wrong about something means you can never be right about anything else. It's okay, though. I'm a High School teacher. I can deal with narcissistic people quite well. I've learned Thurm is here for the strict purpose of essentially saying that everyone is wrong in some way about everything while never actually stating his own opinions/positions about absolutely anything. He's the ultimate Devil's Advocate. And that's fine by me... there should be one in every conversation

Oy... I really get under your skin, don't I?

Deal seems pretty inevitable

I kinda think this happens.

Miller plays in the line for a 4/3 defense. He really only ha LB in his title so he can wear the number 40. Miller comes back and we release Shaq Lawson and put him on the practice squad, obviously

This is a massive Beane win. What a find.

Regarding Bernard? You know they play different positions, right?

The guy is an absolute revelation

Okay... I know this is 2 years old and CoC for old threads states "This topic is OLD. A NEW topic should be started unless there is a very specific reason to revive this one." but there is a very specific reason to revive it. I'm sick of lining up in Shotgun almost every single 3rd and 4th and short!!! When is McDermott going to realize that Josh is automatic on the QB Sneak?!?!

Sure would be nice if Davis and Knox made a couple contested catches that were very catchable... including a dropped TD by Knox. Josh still at almost 73% on the year even with that meat on the bone left by some WRs. ...and as for those who'd complain about the interception, I think this sums it up well:

With anyone else, I would have laughed at this obvious joke. I don't know if you actually have a sense of humor, though. Don't worry, I won't report a CoC violation. I think now that I I understand you're an old man (no offense to anyone around 60 or above), your posts over the years make complete sense. I don't think the phrase "you can't teach an old dog new tricks" is true for all old dogs... but a lot of old dogs are pretty darn stuck in their ways. You must be one of those latter dogs. But keep going with your formula of just saying I'm wrong while giving nebulous half responses... at least it's entertaining some posters.

Holy crap dude... Did you seriously just bring in a QB who's last game was 40 years ago and who's had 2 sons who've already retired from the league to make your argument that my argument isn't valid? Are you this desperate? And while we're at it... are you even old enough to have watched Archie Manning? If not.... do you realize the ridiculous irony in you making this argument?

YAC alone isn't a well-targeted accuracy stat, but YAC combined with Completion % is pretty darn good. You're being pretty silly. As @GunnerBill said in a previous post, all QBs in history (maybe) not named Tom Brady and Drew Brees fall into this category.

How can he be listed as questionable already? That designation won't come out til tomorrow.

Wow... it's been awhile... gonna have to remind myself how I liked the furniture arranged here. But again... I brought up YAC even before your obsessive post. Josh Allen has the highest completion percentage in the NFL. Josh Allen receivers have the 3rd most total YAC. Josh Allen has the 10th most passing yards in the NFL. Now... what exactly are you complaining about?

How about accuracy combined with YAC? http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=231 Buffalo currently has 3rd highest YAC in the NFL. Doesn't seem like Allen’s ball placement so far is even remotely an issue in terms of allowing his receivers to keep running